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Should there be 8 attributes instead of 3 attributes?

  • GodKingScormxon
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    Strongly Agree
    To the point I am constantly running out of bank space and guild bank space if I play all day.
  • GodKingScormxon
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    Strongly Agree
    I'm an ESO plus member and been so far 2 years
  • GodKingScormxon
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    Strongly Agree
    I have pre order the last 2 upgrades and spent over $1000 not including the ESO plus membership cost and upgrade cost. I even bought the game for a friend who never played it for Christmas one year I regret buying it for him because he never played it.
  • MasterSpatula
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    Disagree
    No. Too much complexity to balance.

    But I strongly wish the single player games would.
    "A probable impossibility is preferable to an improbable possibility." - Aristotle
  • GodKingScormxon
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    Strongly Agree
    If they did do that with the single player game I might buy the next one but if it's like Skyrim am not going to bother buying it.
  • GodKingScormxon
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    Strongly Agree
    For me it was very easy to level up in Morrowind it was easier than oblivion and Skyrim I am already level 10 in only about 1 day I can probably even beat my record of level 64 in a few days time I don't need micromanagement for any of the Elder scrolls games I find them all easy to level up way too easy infact that's a big reason behind this idea.
  • GodKingScormxon
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    Strongly Agree
    The things I find hardest is pvp, in all games not just this one, and private dungeons do to fear of unsporting players if the dungeon system decided who to kick based on inactivity and foul language I would be happier but because I can't get a single role right because of the controller inability to keep up with my finger movement I get victimized by other players so I quit dungeons and only do daily writs and that's mostly all I have already maxed out on of my companions level. Also if Xbox had 4 more buttons on the controller that would actually help out ESO more than any other game.
  • AlnilamE
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    I do normal writs everyday with about 9 of my characters still haven't received perfect roe from any of them.

    Perfect Roe doesn't drop from writs. Working as intended.

    You have to fillet fish for them.
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  • MrMazurski
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    Strongly Disagree

    1.I don't understand the constant references to Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim. Ok is the same fictional world, but the mechanics of S.P.E.C.I.A.L. there is no room in mmo rpg.

    1. Half of these things even in single RPG games make no sense and are not used by characters.
    2. More = harder to balance
    3. HP, Stam, Mag is good enough for pve and pvp.
    4. You would have to rebuild the entire game system for this what is impossible.
    1.1 You would end up choosing the same things as you do now.

    Edited by MrMazurski on July 15, 2021 9:34PM
    - Where "Update on Cyrodiil Performance & Upcoming AOE Tests"? I wish ZOS would stop kicking players' balls, especially those on Cyro
    - - PC-EU / Ravenwatch
  • GodKingScormxon
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    Strongly Agree
    Other MMORPGs have core attributes like wow, EverQuest 2, edudemons online, entopia universe, and monster and me online all of those MMORPGs have core attributes and there are more so this one just doesn't.
  • GodKingScormxon
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    Strongly Agree
    I mean personality is the most unique attribute in any rpg and the fact is it's like asking other game makers to steel those attributes if there not going to be used in the elder scrolls games them.
  • GodKingScormxon
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    Strongly Agree
    Those core attributes made these games unique it's really not an rpg without those.
  • GodKingScormxon
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    Strongly Agree
    Magicka stamina and heath are not really attributes in the first place.
  • Amottica
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    Strongly Disagree
    Things are already complex enough for managing balance, etc. I do not think we need to add more.

    Also, Zenimax owns the cannon. When they do something that seems to change cannon, well, that is now cannon. Yes, we can be disgr
    I have already started playing Morrowind again instead of ESO all day like I used to all I do on ESO now is normal writs with my cp characters and that's it.

    There is an aspect to game design that Morrowind and every other TES game can and does ignore. It is called balance as it has nothing it needs to balance against. With ESO we have more choices available than most top MMORPGs have these days and it makes balancing a challenge, hence the heavy changes we experience multiple times a year. The suggestion this question poses would increase that challenge without bringing a measurable benefit to gameplay.
  • Amottica
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    Strongly Disagree
    Magicka stamina and heath are not really attributes in the first place.

    With this game's design, they are very much attributes.
  • GodKingScormxon
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    Strongly Agree
    Thanks for everyone's opinion but I believe that the game programmers are smart enough to do it and I won't give up on this game or the people who program it by disagreeing to this is like telling them their not good enough to do it and I won't sell them short there smart people in the first place.
  • GodKingScormxon
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    Strongly Agree
    Limited thinking gets you no where. Unlimited thinking can get you anywhere you please and anything you want in life.
  • GodKingScormxon
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    Strongly Agree
    I have faith in the game programmers of this game I believe they can do it plus I have suggested this on Xbox feedback before I posted this poll.
  • GodKingScormxon
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    Strongly Agree
    AlnilamE wrote: »
    I do normal writs everyday with about 9 of my characters still haven't received perfect roe from any of them.

    Perfect Roe doesn't drop from writs. Working as intended.

    You have to fillet fish for them.

    Thanks for telling me that I appreciate it.
  • GodKingScormxon
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    Amottica wrote: »
    Magicka stamina and heath are not really attributes in the first place.

    With this game's design, they are very much attributes.

    I know the game calls them attributes but in rpg terms they are technically resources. Hp Np And Sp are all, technically in Rpg games, considered to be resources.
  • GodKingScormxon
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    Strongly Agree
    This game is number 7 in gamer population and I truly want it to be number 1 so in order for that to happen major changes are necessary.
  • GodKingScormxon
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    Strongly Agree
    Unfortunately wow is number one and probably because wow has core attributes doesn't get major changes in abilities and other changes that cause people to quit.
  • MrMazurski
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    Strongly Disagree
    This game is number 7 in gamer population and I truly want it to be number 1 so in order for that to happen major changes are necessary.

    Sorry dude, but the changes you like and are under you won't make the game explode in the population.
    And let the population not expand, because this game will be unplayable.
    - Where "Update on Cyrodiil Performance & Upcoming AOE Tests"? I wish ZOS would stop kicking players' balls, especially those on Cyro
    - - PC-EU / Ravenwatch
  • alberichtano
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    Strongly Disagree
    I don't even know why we have the three? They play very little role in practice.
  • jrgray93
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    Strongly Disagree
    uhhhhh what?
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  • GodKingScormxon
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    Strongly Agree
    Ya that wouldn't be enough to bring the game to the top but that might be enough to get some of the original fan base back along with some of wows players their aren't very many people who played Morrowind back when it came out that will play this game.
  • GodKingScormxon
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    Strongly Agree
    It's mostly the original fans that complain about it too.
  • wenchmore420b14_ESO
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    Disagree
    This game is number 7 in gamer population and I truly want it to be number 1 so in order for that to happen major changes are necessary.

    Just curious as how you know it is #7.
    Zenimax Media is still a private corporation until Microsoft takes possession, and they don't reveal the numbers like WoW has to as is a public corp.
    Yes the devs say we have this and that population numbers, but fact is we don't really know the population of ESO.
    So, where did you get this info?
    Edited by wenchmore420b14_ESO on July 19, 2021 6:53AM
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  • RisenEclipse
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    Hey OP! So I saw your many other posts already up on the forums and I kinda want to put my two cents on here for you :) Im going to try to be gentle about this as I am totes not trying to be mean here.

    But it really seems like you're confusing ESO with Elder Scrolls 6. It is not Elder Scrolls 6, and it never will be. The devs have never even tried to say it is Elder Scrolls 6. MMORPGs are nothing like single player console games. It would be like me demanding a phone game that plays identical to Oblivion or Morrowind. It's not going to happen. Online games are pretty much as different to their single player games as comics are to fantasy novels. You have absolutely no idea what it takes to create an online game or the logistics of it. You are not a dev. Opinions on what is cool and what you think should belong in a game is absolutely great and encouraged. Lets give those devs some ideas on how to make the game better! But making 10 posts on how to change the game utterly into something it is not, and basically telling them to make Elder Scrolls 6 for you in a game that is not Elder Scrolls 6 is silly and utterly unmanageable to do. They're not scrapping a game that works and is making them money, because people are impatient to wait on TES 6. The people who want to play the regular TES games will play the regular TES games. ESO is another animal completely set in the world of TES. It is a new way to play the TES series, and is of course VERY different to play from the other games in the series as it is a MMORPG. So if I were you I would accept ESO as it is and make suggestions based on what it is, rather then trying to make it become something it is not and never will be. I am not trying to discourage you to make suggestions to improve ESO, but I think you really need to tweak your thinking on what ESO is.
    Edited by RisenEclipse on July 18, 2021 9:35AM
  • Zodiarkslayer
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    Disagree
    I voted disagree, because in theory it would be a better system and much more in line with the classic games.

    Only thing is that attributes and derivatively the entire character system cannot be changed without changing everything that uses these new stats. Which includes at least all sets and abilities. At this point you might as well start making a new game on a new engine.
    Edited by Zodiarkslayer on July 19, 2021 5:50AM
    If anyone here says: OH! But, PVP! I swear I'll ...

    Thank you for the valuable input and respectfully recommend to discuss that aspect of ESO on the PVP forum.
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