There will Never be an ESO 2

HumbleThaumaturge

Well, not an ESO 2, but . . .

If one visits the Zenimax Online Studios careers page . . . one can see that ZOS is currently hiring to develop a new roll-playing MMO. Since one of the jobs was "Vehicle Designer" (not currently listed, so maybe filled already), one may assume the new game has vehicles of some kind. Also, there are many job opening for ESO, so I am glad to know the Tamriel map will continue to be filled. ESO 2 no; but maybe "Starfield Online"?

Celephantsylvius_Bornasfinmo

Klad wrote: »

ESO is not a damn service. It's an MMO. A game.

No it is a Online Role Playing game confirmed by the developers and the industry. It's a MMO like The Division is a shooter

A service is ESO+ which many of us gladly pay for only to be given a broken game in return. Enough to leave? No, but absolutely enough to be annoying.

Yeah folks with your opinion certainly won't leave...yet you rail, scream ballistically, and go Barmy constantly..it weakens your sincerity. The more rational among us feel that this is rage for rage sake.

That they're "breaking the engine down" all the time is problematic on many levels. It's saying, "We don't want to invest in 2.0 because everyone seems happy with what they have."

"Problematic" is twitter label that has no real meaning, also you do realize that games like WoW and Final Fantasy XIV do the exact thing that Zenimax does? Blowing the companies money on a nebulous 2.0 version of a launched game...it's much more intelligent to continue iteration of the current engine. This game looks and plays nothing like 1.0, and 8.5 will look and play nothing like 6.9

What a magnanimous attitude to have. Many of us have been here for 7 years, and this isn't just a game to us. It's an investment, both with money and time. How people play is just as much a part of the reward as the game itself.

Yet this guy clearly thinks we should be content with this, knowing so many of its players have an issue with it, along with these "changes" that make no damn sense and force people to review if it's worth staying.

Well at least you didn't say it's a home and a family.. dude, it is what it is...Toilet paper is an investment of money and time, and unlike this game it's a tangible investment. No one put a gun to your head and said: "Play seven years or else."

NOT A SINGLE PERSON I STARTED PLAYING WITH 7 YEARS AGO IS PLAYING TODAY.


Not a single one. They left the game long ago, pissed off at the constant lies (free DLC forever!), the greed ($35 dollars for a horse?! Now with gambling!), and of course, the game breaking/changing annoyances.

Not a single person I started WoW, FFXIV, and SWTOR with at launch plays today either, and 75% of my guild in ESO is still here some take breaks and come back others are like clockwork every day...why is your experience more valid than mine?

I honestly wish I had the willpower to walk away from this circus of greed and disregard for the players, but I'm just too foolish to continue hoping for the best. I've spent years earning what I've done in the game.

This speaks volumes guy...I don't think this game is the root of your anger. You really should not be participating in activities that gets you this worked up...it's not healthy.

I'm going to stop here...because I think this thread is going places. I wish you luck in whatever you decide to do but let me leave you with this,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok5l26Fs0LI

If you keep playing in paying at a game that makes you this bonkers..it isn't really the games fault anymore.

Take care.

Even if the OP employed some harsh wording, I think we can agree on certain points. The direction has been confusing and massive changes have occurred in game and to ignore this would be in a sense denial. How they pitch it and how it plays are two very different things. Perhaps the OP has invested a lot of personal time and that is personal after all. Let's not judge his health, hey.

kmontywrwb17_ESO

As a returning player, the game has 2 major issues (the many, many design foibles and clunky systems are just part of the ESO universe, I have accepted). They are, in order of magnitude:

1. Lack of local servers, which really boils down to cloud architecture. This is the biggest tech updated required. I realize it's also a huge problem to fix. However, MS has the resources to do it, and the worldwide server architecture to take advantage of once it's done.
2. Engine improvements, starting with lighting. The game is beautiful, but the tech is too far behind, and falling behind every day. It's something that can be incrementally improved though, luckily for us, and I'm sure will be.

Address those two things, and this game will live strong for years.

Andyhunter21

Marcus_Aurelius wrote: »

Usually new tech means better things, here things are deteriorating every time new content is added.
Groups reduced to 12 for performance problems, lag everywhere, bugs not being patched up .....

I really don't see the engine getting better, sometime I think they live in their own world.

So thats why zones feel so dead now lol.

Elsonso

kmontywrwb17_ESO wrote: »

As a returning player, the game has 2 major issues (the many, many design foibles and clunky systems are just part of the ESO universe, I have accepted). They are, in order of magnitude:

1. Lack of local servers, which really boils down to cloud architecture. This is the biggest tech updated required. I realize it's also a huge problem to fix. However, MS has the resources to do it, and the worldwide server architecture to take advantage of once it's done.
2. Engine improvements, starting with lighting. The game is beautiful, but the tech is too far behind, and falling behind every day. It's something that can be incrementally improved though, luckily for us, and I'm sure will be.

Address those two things, and this game will live strong for years.

I think the game will live strong for years without #1, and my guess is that they will get around to #2, in time. They need to do more visible stuff. Tearing down rooms that no one knows about is great, and all, but it isn[t very reassuring,

Doing #1 would be an ESO 2, by the way. It would be a massive restructure of the game from the ground up and take years to accomplish. I would be surprised if their new game even did that, given that they can build that game off of the ESO engine and get a jump start.

Celephantsylvius_Bornasfinmo

Thing is they've lost their identity a bit through all these changes/wording in the past years. I think everyone is a bit confused and mainly a bit weary of bugs/performance and the time it takes to address them. I do wish them a long life, but if it continues down this trail, I fear it won't.

Ascarl

I don t see ESO2 in the near term future but for mid term future this will be one possible course of action (the other one is to keep ESO alive as long as possible).
At some point the engine will be a killer. Doing stuff with an outdated engine will be more and more time consuming with relative modest results. I expect this to happen at about 2025-2028.
One solution could be copying as much as possible (including characters) to the new technological solution but them I rather expect some clean sheet approach. As the TES IP is strong I suspect there will be some predecessor one way or the other.

vallisas

I'm fine with that, the game looks beautiful enough. Moreso with a shader, though I wouldn't mind some character model tweaks. But it's fine, they update the hero engine enough. It could be MUCH worse. Swtor characters which uses the same engine as Eso only MUCH less fine tuned, look like cartoon characters by comparison. Outside of BDO, Eso is probably the best looking MMO on the market. You're never going to get truly high quality graphics in an MMO, they need to keep multiple people in mind, they know not all of their players will have the highest end rigs. All MMO devs have to keep this in mind when making content.