Again............................? Are you joking?

Seravi

Oh wow...time changed to 4:30PM EST.

milesrodneymcneely2_ESO

Danikat wrote: »

It's their product and their responsibility to get it working. If they were able to rely entirely on untrained volunteer testers to get the data they need that would be fantastic, but if it's not working ZOS need to find another system. Berating the few people who choose to spend their free time submitting feedback which is consistently ignored isn't going to do anything except discourage even those people from continuing to do it.

Seriously. This game has been around long enough to see these patterns emerge.

Any executive worth his or her salt would begin talks to either add another internal playtest department, or beef up the one that's there SUBSTANTIALLY.

xv1_me

Maintenance for the week of June 7:
• [EXTENDED] PC/Mac: NA megaserver for maintenance – June 7, 10:30AM EDT (14:30 UTC) – June 7, 4:30PM EDT (20:30 UTC)

Kosef

I'm starting to absolutely regret paying for another month of sub and the expansion.

If the xpac was bought less than 24 hours ago, anyone know if there is a way to get a refund. I know I'll not get the refund on the month's sub, but I'm definitely regretting investing in yet another expansion where it seems like we are still getting 0 to little explanation of things. This long of a maintenance makes no sense for a game that has been out for as long as this has.

Jacozilla

biovitalb16_ESO wrote: »

priestnall.andrewrwb17_ESO wrote: »

Notify in advance; take it down, sensible ETA till its back up. Taking it down EVERY DAY is a bit ...uhhh unprofessional for a AAA title that has had weeks on PTS.

The problem with their testing is the people that go on it. They just go on to test rotations and see what the best builds will be, they don't actually test it for them.

Are you even reading the PTS forums before making this baseless assertion? Yes there are lots of players just there to learn new strategies first, practice dps optimization or new trial tactics - but as every single PTS including this one shows, there are also tons of player filed bug reports.

Many of them either ignored or 'fixed' only partially by ZoS, leading to a slew of known and repeatedly logged bugs by PTS players to go live on launch.

xeNNNNN

priestnall.andrewrwb17_ESO wrote: »

What the actual [snip] are we paying you for? Come on now.... lets be reasonable. How many maintenance is this? Once a day? [snip]

[Edited to remove Bashing]

Honestly as an EU player watching this thread I couldn't help but chuckle.

SirCyanideRose

Kosef wrote: »

I'm starting to absolutely regret paying for another month of sub and the expansion.

If the xpac was bought less than 24 hours ago, anyone know if there is a way to get a refund. I know I'll not get the refund on the month's sub, but I'm definitely regretting investing in yet another expansion where it seems like we are still getting 0 to little explanation of things. This long of a maintenance makes no sense for a game that has been out for as long as this has.

I agree. This is uncalled for... Not for a chapter that cost, what, 50bucks? This isn't a $10 addon. The chapter cost was similar to or more than many full games. Then you add in the people who have ESO+, and this game gets expensive. The Cost/Downtime ratio is out of whack.

Ardan147

Fix this so I can play dammit! I need entertainment! I can only light Prince Maleel on fire so many times before it gets boring. You understand.

xeNNNNN

L_Nici wrote: »

The worst is just that EU has issues as well, but there its not important enough for Maintenance. No idea how it is on NA, but PvP still doesn't work on EU.

PvP on EU is basically a who can abuse the lag the most contest.

Between that and macro's you may as well not play. Sewers is horrendous. You get ganked in such disjointed ways that you see the attacks a full 2 seconds after they've nuked you from stealth.

My MS to any server in Europe in virtually any game I play is between 20 and 40ms. But on ESO? 90ms constant. I just don't understand it, 90ms is what I get from the East coast of the US. I mean good lord.

SirCyanideRose

Seravi wrote: »

Oh wow...time changed to 4:30PM EST.

That's almost a full work day....

Kosef

Has anyone actually successfully gotten a refund from an expansion purchase? If so did you just submit a ticket? What steps worked for you?

I'm seriously asking as I bought the expansion yesterday and am regretting it fully.

Artiamus

The issue I have on maintenance in this game is that it starts at 10a EDT. With so many of them being extended of late, why do they not start the maintenance closer to 1a or 2a local server time like other mmos typically do? There is an easily identifiable time when the night crew of players drops off for the day before folks begin waking up and logging on for dailies before they begin their work day.

Instead of choosing a time based off their player count, they do it during the beginning of the work day, right as the player count begins to pick up for the day.

Lugaldu

I feel like I'm in a time loop, every week, every maintenance, always the same... And if nothing is done, then the complaints are even greater.

[Edit to remove bait]

SpaceElf

Artiamus wrote: »

The issue I have on maintenance in this game is that it starts at 10a EDT. With so many of them being extended of late, why do they not start the maintenance closer to 1a or 2a local server time like other mmos typically do? There is an easily identifiable time when the night crew of players drops off for the day before folks begin waking up and logging on for dailies before they begin their work day.

Instead of choosing a time based off their player count, they do it during the beginning of the work day, right as the player count begins to pick up for the day.

In all honesty, I was surprised that they scheduled maintenance during the day like this, because it's usually done in the early morning hours. It must be a serious problem if they're taking it down during the day.

xv1_me

Lugaldu wrote: »

I feel like I'm in a time loop, every week, every maintenance, always the same... And if nothing is done, then the complaints are even greater.

Yea I literally feel like every day is a maintenance.

Elsonso

Kosef wrote: »

I'm starting to absolutely regret paying for another month of sub and the expansion.

If the xpac was bought less than 24 hours ago, anyone know if there is a way to get a refund. I know I'll not get the refund on the month's sub, but I'm definitely regretting investing in yet another expansion where it seems like we are still getting 0 to little explanation of things. This long of a maintenance makes no sense for a game that has been out for as long as this has.

While they have not said what this one is about, they have had a few hardware problems recently. They could be replacing something. If so, the planned hardware refresh for this year can't come soon enough.

xv1_me

Kosef wrote: »

Has anyone actually successfully gotten a refund from an expansion purchase? If so did you just submit a ticket? What steps worked for you?

I'm seriously asking as I bought the expansion yesterday and am regretting it fully.

I think if you reach zos via ticket you should get a refund. Zos seems ok at that type of stuff as long as they aren’t refunding you gold.

NeoAntiquus

Greetings,

FYI maintenance has been extended to 4:30pm EDT.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/576487/pc-na-maintenance-june-7-10-30am-edt#latest

Elsonso

NeoAntiquus wrote: »

Greetings,

FYI maintenance has been extended to 4:30pm EDT.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/576487/pc-na-maintenance-june-7-10-30am-edt#latest

Sigh. Just another Monday for ZOS.

MAOofDC

Artiamus wrote: »

The issue I have on maintenance in this game is that it starts at 10a EDT. With so many of them being extended of late, why do they not start the maintenance closer to 1a or 2a local server time like other mmos typically do? There is an easily identifiable time when the night crew of players drops off for the day before folks begin waking up and logging on for dailies before they begin their work day.

Instead of choosing a time based off their player count, they do it during the beginning of the work day, right as the player count begins to pick up for the day.

Because a lot of the coding for the game comes from the Hunt Valley, Maryland office and that's when 9-5 employees work. It is a Maryland company, the publishing wing was named for the town the company was started in Bethesda, Maryland, just across the border from DC.

radiostar

https://youtu.be/SsmVgoXDq2w

Jaimeh

Imagine if there was some place where things could be tested before release. Oh wait...

kindred

Maintenance is cool. Maybe just not in the middle of the freakin day. Why don't you guys do it in the middle of the night instead? I know there are a lot of people that play graveyard shift, but I believe much more people play in the daylight hours.

xv1_me

kindred wrote: »

Maintenance is cool. Maybe just not in the middle of the freakin day. Why don't you guys do it in the middle of the night instead? I know there are a lot of people that play graveyard shift, but I believe much more people play in the daylight hours.

Yea it feels dead after 11-12 on most nights..eastern time. Also feels dead mid day too.

Also feels dead when I pvp during peak hours and 75 queue.

Also feels dead when I see 900k motifs since no one is farming.

...wait...is 75% of the games population the same people on 36 different alts or 4+ accounts doing writs?

imno007b14_ESO

kindred wrote: »

Maintenance is cool. Maybe just not in the middle of the freakin day. Why don't you guys do it in the middle of the night instead? I know there are a lot of people that play graveyard shift, but I believe much more people play in the daylight hours.

Well, the maintenance announcement made it sound like an emergency situation, like they had no other choice. We'll see if they give us an explanation....

Tatanko

xeNNNNN wrote: »

My MS to any server in Europe in virtually any game I play is between 20 and 40ms. But on ESO? 90ms constant. I just don't understand it, 90ms is what I get from the East coast of the US. I mean good lord.

I live on the US east coast, have gigabyte internet, and still get ~110 on average to the NA server.

Mahabahabtha

if it burns at the backend, I recomend a proctologist....

amm7sb14_ESO

I'm a teacher, and I finally have some time off due to the school year ending, and having a week before I have to get back to summer school. So yes... it is frustrating that I can't hop on right now like I would like to.

But it happens. ESO is down, there are other things I can do. I've recently gone back to EQ as well. They opened a new server, I can go check that out. I play SWGEmu. I play NBA2K21 and MLB The Show 21 on X-Box Series S. I can go play a single player TES or FO game. There are so many other options.

Yes. ESO is what I *want* to play right now. I want to run SCP and try for the Zaan's style page. I have some set pieces I want to farm for. There's lots of stuff to do. But I'll survive. As will OP.

mekops_ESO

as a major pc-na no-lifer, i am having a hard time getting on to play. which is beyond odd. fix your stuff. its all good. there were a number of bad omens on this one and i am sure some of us anticipated it. let me back in so i can grind more guild dailies to level the new content.

Elsonso

Mahabahabtha wrote: »

if it burns at the backend, I recommend a proctologist....

A while back, the thought popped into my head of sending ZOS a case of Preparation-H as a joke to help them resolve their backend problems. Fortunately, it was just a thought and never went any further.