The "WTS Companion sash 100k" problem

Brrrofski

Honestly, I see the people using these the most are people who play the game a lot and will use them for an experience rather than support in content.

My companion will only be out so I can get drops which I'll then sell for whatever I can get for them.

Pauwer

WAIT WAIT WAIT

You have to find gear for the companions AND they are sellable to other players? Well, gosh darn it, i will now buy Blackmarch (or whats it called) and get me some $$$

mocap

wait for a few weeks. It will fall down to meh prices, since there is little to no who can buy just one item for 3 millions of gold.

AyaDark

Companions are not that bad !

Companions compared to players are like:

1/12 of good tank player
1/3 of good healer player
1/2 of good dd player in raid

So companion can be like healer 1/3 +1/3 dd the same time and be usefull.

Just as example if my companion is even 30-40% of me - it is like 2 more little hands that can help.

You do not need purple gear for this if you are just new player.

But for good player it is important because is companion 30 or 40 procents of you - is a big difference.

And if this 30% is better than other player = why not to take companion ?

Only companion with a good playing owner is good companion.

https://youtu.be/VRtb_laLauA

Pauls

Xebov wrote: »

Abigail wrote: »

Just shows that predatory capitalism is taking over every aspect of our lives. Choked over all the white gear listed in the guild stores for 5000 coins, then all the chat items going for 150K. Lotta these conniving bastages need hot grease shot up their posterior ejection mechanisms.

Why?

That white gear is sold by NPCs is written in the patch notes. If ppl dont read them and buy the white items for 5k its their own problem.
Otehr gear is a rare drop and as such players can call up higher prices. Noone has to farm for the benefit of others.

Its called a scam, same to selling basic style stones for more than 15g each.

Xebov

Lapin_Logic wrote: »

Xebov wrote: »

Abigail wrote: »

Just shows that predatory capitalism is taking over every aspect of our lives. Choked over all the white gear listed in the guild stores for 5000 coins, then all the chat items going for 150K. Lotta these conniving bastages need hot grease shot up their posterior ejection mechanisms.

Why?

That white gear is sold by NPCs is written in the patch notes. If ppl dont read them and buy the white items for 5k its their own problem.
Otehr gear is a rare drop and as such players can call up higher prices. Noone has to farm for the benefit of others.

NPC's sell only Blank untraited gear, exactly like what your companion has stock making the system kind of a joke.

Im not saying that the current drop system is good. I would prefer it if we could craft or upgrade gear. What iam saying is that white gear is available at NPCs and if players instead buy the white gear for 5k in the guild store its not the problem of the player who sold it if ppl are to lazy to read patch notes.

Pauls wrote: »

Xebov wrote: »

Abigail wrote: »

Just shows that predatory capitalism is taking over every aspect of our lives. Choked over all the white gear listed in the guild stores for 5000 coins, then all the chat items going for 150K. Lotta these conniving bastages need hot grease shot up their posterior ejection mechanisms.

Why?

That white gear is sold by NPCs is written in the patch notes. If ppl dont read them and buy the white items for 5k its their own problem.
Otehr gear is a rare drop and as such players can call up higher prices. Noone has to farm for the benefit of others.

Its called a scam, same to selling basic style stones for more than 15g each.

How is it a scam? If a player buys the item he gets the item, he got what he wanted for the price that he wanted to pay. The fact that the item is available cheaper somewhere else doesnt make it a scam. If players are to lazy to inform themselves and as a result pay more than they have to its not the sellers fault.

DirkRavenclaw

Well, gets already cheaper. I bought a green Inferno Staff for 15k to get the Dropchances higher. I get regularly 1 or 2 Drops from Content no new Player runs, public dungeons and Pledges also WBs. Nothing yet from Dolmens, Delves or Overland Mobs. Oh a green ring froma Chest. When the amount of Gear dropped increases will the Prices for it go down.

LadyNalcarya

AyaDark wrote: »

Companions are not that bad !

Companions compared to players are like:

1/12 of good tank player
1/3 of good healer player
1/2 of good dd player in raid

So companion can be like healer 1/3 +1/3 dd the same time and be usefull.

Just as example if my companion is even 30-40% of me - it is like 2 more little hands that can help.

You do not need purple gear for this if you are just new player.

But for good player it is important because is companion 30 or 40 procents of you - is a big difference.

And if this 30% is better than other player = why not to take companion ?

Only companion with a good playing owner is good companion.

https://youtu.be/VRtb_laLauA

There's no way they perform 50% as good as a good player in raid. They can't do mechanics and their damage is miniscule compared to what a good player can do.
Same with healers, any semi-decent healer would bring at least something like SPC, orbs and combat prayer.

AyaDark

LadyNalcarya wrote: »

AyaDark wrote: »

Companions are not that bad !

Companions compared to players are like:

1/12 of good tank player
1/3 of good healer player
1/2 of good dd player in raid

So companion can be like healer 1/3 +1/3 dd the same time and be usefull.

Just as example if my companion is even 30-40% of me - it is like 2 more little hands that can help.

You do not need purple gear for this if you are just new player.

But for good player it is important because is companion 30 or 40 procents of you - is a big difference.

And if this 30% is better than other player = why not to take companion ?

Only companion with a good playing owner is good companion.

https://youtu.be/VRtb_laLauA

There's no way they perform 50% as good as a good player in raid. They can't do mechanics and their damage is miniscule compared to what a good player can do.
Same with healers, any semi-decent healer would bring at least something like SPC, orbs and combat prayer.

I just show you video that they can and they do.

They can not do mech, but you can controll them, if you play enough good to controll 2 characters the same time they are quite usefull.

They can do little damage, little healing, little dps, they even can live and do not die.

They can not do mechanics, but they can help to people on them. It is better than nothing. They heal solo target quite good - so they are good to help on them.

They can give some DPS to raid - about 3-5% of raid dps buff + some damage.

Not as perfect, but as 50% of normal player.

Not as good healer, but enough to help good healer to do his job, if no other healer.

As example 1 healer + companion healer.

Or 1 companion as DD.

It is not as good as player, but it is better thanno player at all.

Lapin_Logic

AyaDark wrote: »

Companions are not that bad !

Companions compared to players are like:

1/12 of good tank player
1/3 of good healer player
1/2 of good dd player in raid

So companion can be like healer 1/3 +1/3 dd the same time and be usefull.

Just as example if my companion is even 30-40% of me - it is like 2 more little hands that can help.

You do not need purple gear for this if you are just new player.

But for good player it is important because is companion 30 or 40 procents of you - is a big difference.

And if this 30% is better than other player = why not to take companion ?

Only companion with a good playing owner is good companion.

https://youtu.be/VRtb_laLauA

Such epic music for just heavy attacking with wings up.

Rossmann

Why people buy gears for furnitures to be?

Galbsadi

This problem will fix itself.

I'll say flat out, having made a couple million off of companion gear so far this DLC....the prices WILL fall, and the gear is NOT necessary.

My companions are both in white/green gear while I sell every purple piece that comes my way and any blue that's not exactly what I want for one of my companions (read: so far, all but 1 blue piece that's dropped).

katorga

Lapin_Logic wrote: »

ZOS put the Companion system in the game to help newer players who need assistance clearing base game content.
i.e they have no cash. (for some reason ZOS decided to also set the drop rate so low as the player would have died of old age before equipping one companion but that is a separate issue)

The Community "Lets gouge the price, scalp the market and price Companion Noob gear Higher than BIS character gear or some gold items."
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The Community seem to think that just because aa system is new it is automatically for end game players, but no end game player is using a companion in place of another player, nor should they.... So can we ALL just use a little common sense and price things accordingly, Companion gear for the % effectiveness gain would be priced as trash gear in any other situation, show a bit of kindness to the new players for whom an 8K maxed DPS fitted companion would make a difference, thanks.

Looking at it all wrong. You sell every single companion piece you find. You make huge sums of gold. Just stick with store-bought armor, and white weapons for now. You also don't run the risk of the companion bug losing all that expensive gear.

The weeks from now, you go back a buy purple items at a fraction of the cost of today.

Galbsadi

katorga wrote: »

Looking at it all wrong. You sell every single companion piece you find. You make huge sums of gold. Just stick with store-bought armor, and white weapons for now. You also don't run the risk of the companion bug losing all that expensive gear.

The weeks from now, you go back a buy purple items at a fraction of the cost of today.

This is the way.

Jeirno

I sold a blue companion, necklace, axe, gloves and a hat for 125k each

LadyNalcarya

AyaDark wrote: »

LadyNalcarya wrote: »

AyaDark wrote: »

Companions are not that bad !

Companions compared to players are like:

1/12 of good tank player
1/3 of good healer player
1/2 of good dd player in raid

So companion can be like healer 1/3 +1/3 dd the same time and be usefull.

Just as example if my companion is even 30-40% of me - it is like 2 more little hands that can help.

You do not need purple gear for this if you are just new player.

But for good player it is important because is companion 30 or 40 procents of you - is a big difference.

And if this 30% is better than other player = why not to take companion ?

Only companion with a good playing owner is good companion.

https://youtu.be/VRtb_laLauA

There's no way they perform 50% as good as a good player in raid. They can't do mechanics and their damage is miniscule compared to what a good player can do.
Same with healers, any semi-decent healer would bring at least something like SPC, orbs and combat prayer.

I just show you video that they can and they do.

They can not do mech, but you can controll them, if you play enough good to controll 2 characters the same time they are quite usefull.

They can do little damage, little healing, little dps, they even can live and do not die.

They can not do mechanics, but they can help to people on them. It is better than nothing. They heal solo target quite good - so they are good to help on them.

They can give some DPS to raid - about 3-5% of raid dps buff + some damage.

Not as perfect, but as 50% of normal player.

Not as good healer, but enough to help good healer to do his job, if no other healer.

As example 1 healer + companion healer.

Or 1 companion as DD.

It is not as good as player, but it is better thanno player at all.

Well, I'm glad that they're not completely useless, but a decent player can pull 30-40k+ in content, and a good player can do much more. Companions are nowhere close to that, though I agree that their 5k is better than nothing.

Shantu

It's a passing fad. Once players have heard the same dialog for the thousandth time and realize the only thing they are good at is following you around, it will get old an annoying, and gear will be cheap as dirt.