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So it seems like all this did was make procs even worse in PvE.

  • MarioMario
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    ManDraKE wrote: »
    You can still do the health stack/proc set thing in PvP. It's incredibly easy to get 6.5k weapon damage even on a tank.

    No, is not incredibly easy. [...]

    As I've said, only valuable proc for SOLO playing is vate 2h, it's the perfect burst mate for subs/crystal/blastbones. Next patch, on a clever based build, will be as effective or even better than now.

    But men... what about GROUP playing?

    Did you forget minor/major courage and powerful assault? Vicious death will hit harder than ever.

    And the real plague will be azurblight...


    Edited by MarioMario on May 20, 2021 7:00PM
  • ssewallb14_ESO
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    ManDraKE wrote: »
    You can still do the health stack/proc set thing in PvP. It's incredibly easy to get 6.5k weapon damage even on a tank.

    No, is not incredibly easy. I wish people stopped repeating stupid things without actually trying to make playable builds. I laughted hard the other day with kristopereso trying to "show" that on stream, he built a meme 8k wpn damge build, went into duel with a random average joe and go destroyed in a few seconds because he couldnt sustain. Then proceeded to drop weapon damage for sustain, and never went into another duel because he knew he had 0 mitigation and that wasnt a viable build and said "see guys, the build is playable" lul

    Stacking 6.5k wpn damage on a viable build is really hard, and in the cases were you can actually do it withouth ending with a meme build, you usually have <40% uptime on that weapon damage because it involved things like clever alch, wpn damage enchanment, etc, and all that just to let 1 procset hit as in live. While you can still hit hard with procs, you cant go 45k HP warden tank with 3 procsets and pretend to kill competent people, those builds are dead. Plus they got a flat 10% damage reduce with the nerf of malatard.

    The kristofer build had 7.2k WD unbuffed, and 1.7k stam recovery, with 4 proc sets, and you only need 6.5k WD to reach live tooltips. If you can't make that work that's a you problem.

    It's fine, the good theorycrafters have already figured it out and everyone will copy them when this goes live like always. I haven't cared about PvP in this game for years, I just hate that sets are getting ruined in PvE for no reason.
    Edited by ssewallb14_ESO on May 20, 2021 7:50PM
  • ManDraKE
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    The kristofer build had 7.2k WD unbuffed, and 1.7k stam recovery, with 4 proc sets, and you only need 6.5k WD to reach live tooltips. If you can't make that work that's a you problem.

    duel me with that build and i will clap you in 2 GCDs with minimal effor. Is a meme build, if the stats sheets is so impresive why it didnt kill anyoneon with it?
    logan_ESO wrote: »
    ManDraKE wrote: »
    You can still do the health stack/proc set thing in PvP. It's incredibly easy to get 6.5k weapon damage even on a tank.

    No, is not incredibly easy. [...]

    As I've said, only valuable proc for SOLO playing is vate 2h, it's the perfect burst mate for subs/crystal/blastbones. Next patch, on a clever based build, will be as effective or even better than now.

    But men... what about GROUP playing?

    Did you forget minor/major courage and powerful assault? Vicious death will hit harder than ever.

    And the real plague will be azurblight...


    Yeah, vathe 2h will be BiS next patch for pretty much any stam build. Azureblight is already very powerful for group scenarios on live, next patch will be even worst, people playing large scale Cyrodrill will die with nothing but azureblight explosions on their recap.

    About ball groups, i dont care, stopped caring about them a long time ago. Ball groups had always been broken, and solo/small scallers just avoid them. Balance issues aside, and keeping in mind that they run with 8 rapid regens stacking, as soon as you get near them you cant even cast abilities. So is pointless, let them do their thing and we will do ours.
    Edited by ManDraKE on May 20, 2021 8:58PM
  • ssewallb14_ESO
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    ManDraKE wrote: »
    blah blah kristofer bad duel me bro

    I didn't say anything about kristofer or his specific build, the point is you can push 9k WD buffed in all procs if you go all into WD, when you only need 6500. If you can't make a viable build with 2500 equivalent stats to play with I don't know what to tell you.
    Edited by ssewallb14_ESO on May 20, 2021 9:26PM
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