Its not p2w. Its pay for the latest expansion as it always has been and always will be. Wait for a year and you can buy it with crowns or have it included in eso+
This is the model that has always been used for this game and always will be. The only alternative would be to make the game subscription based, a sub that everyone would have to pay to play the game. The game has to be funded somehow and one of those ways is the annual expansion.
Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »They are trying to sell a product... of course they are charging money for it and trying to give all the player cohorts a reason to buy it. Welcome to civilisation
hands0medevil wrote: »Honestly... the only reason for buying new chapter for pvp and pve players are new op proc and nonproc items.
hands0medevil wrote: »Honestly... the only reason for buying new chapter for pvp and pve players are new op proc and nonproc items. But don't worry, they will be ner... *ekhm* adjusted next year before another year-long adventure. P2W or not, this new business model is less and less subtle each year. New sets are absurdly OP. Current business and developing model led us already to nonproc cyrodiil test and general issue with balancing hundreds of sets available in game. I hoped something will change with this update. Now I only hope for something new that is going to be released in August.
It's a very good thing that you don't need access to the expansions in order to get those items. You can always get someone to go in to those zones and get those sets for you.
When a company brings out new content, that is not pay 2 win. People REALLY need to learn what pay 2 win mean. Paid expansions are a normal part of a healthy MMO. If people have issues with regularly having to pay to continue to play a game, then they need to just stay out of the MMO genre of games because these games either require everyone pays a little bit, some people pay a moderate amount, or a few people( whales) pay to win at regular intervals.simpledude31998 wrote: »Brief answer to the question - it's paywall.
I am concerned that very little attention has been paid to this huge problem.
So, I'll start by saying that I love TESO. I discuss it with my friends, also i always recommend it when our dialog flows into the topic about games. So far I have personally recruited 5 people to buy and play this MMO (I understand that this is a drop in the ocean, but I do not pretend to be a promoter). And my main argument is that there is no PAYWALL.
Unfortunately, things are changing now.
When a company brings out new content, that is not pay 2 win. People REALLY need to learn what pay 2 win mean. Paid expansions are a normal part of a healthy MMO. If people have issues with regularly having to pay to continue to play a game, then they need to just stay out of the MMO genre of games because these games either require everyone pays a little bit, some people pay a moderate amount, or a few people( whales) pay to win at regular intervals.simpledude31998 wrote: »Brief answer to the question - it's paywall.
I am concerned that very little attention has been paid to this huge problem.
So, I'll start by saying that I love TESO. I discuss it with my friends, also i always recommend it when our dialog flows into the topic about games. So far I have personally recruited 5 people to buy and play this MMO (I understand that this is a drop in the ocean, but I do not pretend to be a promoter). And my main argument is that there is no PAYWALL.
Unfortunately, things are changing now.
As for the rest of your post, i am not sure if this was a troll post or fearmongering or what. But your opinion on the worth of this chapter or any other chapter, is strictly your opinion. If it is not worth the price to you, don't buy it. There is nothing in the chapter that you need to have a fun and successful time in ESO.
simpledude31998 wrote: »
[*] New zone - alright cool, i and a lot of other players will finish it with 2-3 days (it's subjective opinion - i'm not really interesting in zone)
It is a mystery to me as well, even had arguments with people who hate playing the game but play it anyway for one reason or another. I don't quite understand it.New zone - alright cool, i and a lot of other players will finish it with 2-3 days (it's subjective opinion - i'm not really interesting in zone); New overland and crafting sets, and this is what i'm personally like that even without having a chapter, you still could craft or buy this sets on market;
I always wonder why people who have no interest in questing and exploring decide to play an Elder Scrolls game and then complain that the main content of an expansion is questing and exploring when the entire franchise is based on QUESTING AND EXPLORING.
Personally I bought Blackwood because I am interested in seeing the layout of ESO's interpretation of an area within Oblivion and to see what the quests are like. I would feel more excited however, if I could actually play through these zones with a max level character.
simpledude31998 wrote: »The problem is in ZOS sales policy. Since last year I was afraid that they would manipulate by placing OP Mythic items in new chapter. That's exactly what happened. And i just want to reveal this problem. I know a lot of people who will buy BW just because of Mythics(they artificially forced to do it), this is not only my problem. And the problem is in manipulation, that ZOS don't provide us something that worth 2 pay full price( really i don't know person who will buy this chapter because it's main feature) they provide us with content which we already bought and thus create paywall.I'm confused, the first half of your post seems to be saying that the problem is there's no reason to buy Blackwood, then the second half of your post is all about feeling pressured to buy it because it does include useful items. Which of these two is the problem?
This isn't a manipulation or a problem, this was always going to be the way they rolled out new content..
This has been their method of releasing new skills, items, services etc. from day 1. You're just complaining because you don't think this chapter has enough to cater to your specific playstyle.
Are mythic items really that good?