Rumor has it: XP in Blackrose Prison

Xuhora

Top of the morning to you, the reader!

Now we all know that the XP/hour in nBRP is one of the most efficient ways to gain CP, and many of us the method. There have been discussions allready if its going to be nerfed in the future.
While doing a run of vBRP yesterday after the patch a guildmate of mine said she read in the patchnotes that the XP has been reduced, something along the lines of "we reduced the XP gains in nBRP and vBRP to bring it further in line with skyreach" she read the english patchnotes around 30 minutes after release, while i read them arround 2 hours after release and i didnt read such line.

Well could be that she imagined something that wasnt there, but in an other guild someone said "well Xp hasnt been nerfed in nBRP, im confirming it right now" plus there has been a question in the german forum as well. so defenitly no imagination going on there, with 3 unrelated sources.
Further the patchnote state that they have been edited by Gina

So can we have a confirmation that this is a plan for a future patch @ZOS_GinaBruno ? or is it that 3 people just had the same daydream? And if it is in the pipeline for a future update, why is there a need to bring it in line with other sources of XP like skyreach?

Edit: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/de/discussion/215679/q-q-beeilt-euch-bitte-eso-suchti-thread-fuer-server-offline-zeiten/p755
this is the german server offline thread, in which 2 guys tell the story as well, + the patchnotes state "edited by Kai Schober" so its basically the same in both languages. thats odd...

Mayrael

People are awful, thats why we can't have nice things. "If I can't have it you shouldn't to!"

DovahkiinHeart

I mean, there was a spot in reapers where solo players can go to get exp but it was nerfed because zos assumes everyone was using that spot for loot lol. As if everyone can grab a buddy who can be on 24/7 to do group related content for exp xP

Xuhora

not that it takes a massive ammount of skill to farm the first 4 rounds of nBRP? plus its an arena, that could mean that all arenas are getting their XP nerfed?
IMO that would be odd, since the XP in the arenas are a sweet sideeffect that comes with BIS-loot?

Lerozain

Mayrael wrote: »

People are awful, thats why we can't have nice things. "If I can't have it you shouldn't to!"

This. Exactly this.

On a side note, the exp remains unchanged as of today, just confirmed it myself. And arena exp is the ONLY thing I'm looking forward to during the event.

Renegader

It will be nerfed. 100%. I have gotten From cp 1100 to 1300 in a matter of days. During this double XP even i will probably go up another 200 CP, and another 300 CP again following the month.

If i can go from CP 1100 - 1800 just from some hours of grind a day in a month, it just goes to show how effective this method is.

You can level a character from 0-50 in 1 hour when the event is on. Its absolutely crazy.

I dont want it nerfed. I like that there is finally an efficient XP grind spot thats instanced. But i accept the fact that it will be reduced next patch, since its just so vastly superior to the other options

Mayrael

Lerozain wrote: »

Mayrael wrote: »

People are awful, thats why we can't have nice things. "If I can't have it you shouldn't to!"

This. Exactly this.

On a side note, the exp remains unchanged as of today, just confirmed it myself. And arena exp is the ONLY thing I'm looking forward to during the event.

Yeah it's perfect solution for many reasons.

4 man content - Mobs are tougher and hit harder than usual - it should give more XP.
No loot or gold - It comes with a price
Instanced - so nobody disturbs anyone - it's especially important during events, when thousnads of players will try to find a spot for them selves.
It requires DLC - Come on ZOS, you can sell more copies of it.

Don't nerf it, just don't.

Xuhora

Mayrael wrote: »

Lerozain wrote: »

Mayrael wrote: »

People are awful, thats why we can't have nice things. "If I can't have it you shouldn't to!"

This. Exactly this.

On a side note, the exp remains unchanged as of today, just confirmed it myself. And arena exp is the ONLY thing I'm looking forward to during the event.

Yeah it's perfect solution for many reasons.

4 man content - Mobs are tougher and hit harder than usual - it should give more XP.
No loot or gold - It comes with a price
Instanced - so nobody disturbs anyone - it's especially important during events, when thousnads of players will try to find a spot for them selves.
It requires DLC - Come on ZOS, you can sell more copies of it.

Don't nerf it, just don't.

absolutly on your side there yes...

Mayrael

IntenseRenegader wrote: »

It will be nerfed. 100%. I have gotten From cp 1100 to 1300 in a matter of days. During this double XP even i will probably go up another 200 CP, and another 300 CP again following the month.

If i can go from CP 1100 - 1800 just from some hours of grind a day in a month, it just goes to show how effective this method is.

You can level a character from 0-50 in 1 hour when the event is on. Its absolutely crazy.

I dont want it nerfed. I like that there is finally an efficient XP grind spot thats instanced. But i accept the fact that it will be reduced next patch, since its just so vastly superior to the other options

With 150% XP (which is pretty rare and expensive), group member with ring of mara (20%) and training gear in 1 hour at 1400 CPs I am able to get around 10 CPs per hour.

Let's asume I'll grind 4 hours per day with all the mentioned above buffs and there is no XP curve. It gives me 10 days of grind to get to soft cap from 1400 CPs!

Now how long it will take to get there for a new player without all those buffs? How long it will take to get above cap? Yeah let's nerf this and every convenient source of XP this will encourage new players for sure. You need only half a year to get to soft cap! What a fun!

Zodiarkslayer

They might just be concerned about server strain.
If there are too many instances instead of players sharing one, the performance might take a serious hit. High lag, even crashes are possible.

To remove the incentive to MASS farm nBRP might be the most "elegant" solution.

But that is speculation.

Xuhora

Zodiarkslayer wrote: »

They might just be concerned about server strain.
If there are too many instances instead of players sharing one, the performance might take a serious hit. High lag, even crashes are possible.

To remove the incentive to MASS farm nBRP might be the most "elegant" solution.

But that is speculation.

could very well be, but that seems to be the wrong approach? i mean if there is something in the game that clearly is a prefered method, then why patch it out instead if trying to build on it? clearly there must be something to it if many players do it?

zaria

Zodiarkslayer wrote: »

They might just be concerned about server strain.
If there are too many instances instead of players sharing one, the performance might take a serious hit. High lag, even crashes are possible.

To remove the incentive to MASS farm nBRP might be the most "elegant" solution.

But that is speculation.

Don't think that is an problem, group dungeons, BG, player houses, even some quests has instances.
Instances is probably easier for the server than overland as it don't need to worry about anything else and its just to use more servers if needed, not instanced outside the campaigns is the problem in Cyrodil.

BRP give good XP as its plenty of mobs in fast waves, more than DSA and MA.

hands0medevil

Some players still confuse ESO with The Sims or other role playing simulator. If someone is getting jealous because others are able to grind exp (which is totally normal for MMO) then he or she is playing wrong game. We need to stop this "it has to go because I can't get it" attitude or we will end up with free 3600 level for everyone and furnishing houses will be the most rewarding part of the game. Some players need to stop pulling down other players interested in end game. Accept the fact that mmo genre, similar to real life, is also about competition and getting better in different aspects of the game. Accept the fact that casual and veteran players can coexist but if you enter veteran content unprepared, it will end badly.

colossalvoids

I've read notes the minute it was posted, all the same. [snip]

Edit: it won't be changed because "too much xp" because it's the same exp as everywhere, but density per second etc matters making it the best spot right now. The only reason is server strain that everyone on a server can feel now when there hundreds of instances going at the same time which might be a reason for tuning it down.

[Edited to remove Rude Comments]

Xuhora

colossalvoids wrote: »

I've read notes the minute it was posted, all the same. [snip]

Edit: it won't be changed because "too much xp" because it's the same exp as everywhere, but density per second etc matters making it the best spot right now. The only reason is server strain that everyone on a server can feel now when there hundreds of instances going at the same time which might be a reason for tuning it down.

so you think that 5 different people with no connections to each other tell the same lie? im not for for conspiracy theories, but i have to admit there seems to be something that is going on, thats why i made this post, to get at least a conformation from a ZOS member, but either gina nor kai seem to able to comment on this fact.

remosito

Mayrael wrote: »

IntenseRenegader wrote: »

It will be nerfed. 100%. I have gotten From cp 1100 to 1300 in a matter of days. During this double XP even i will probably go up another 200 CP, and another 300 CP again following the month.

If i can go from CP 1100 - 1800 just from some hours of grind a day in a month, it just goes to show how effective this method is.

You can level a character from 0-50 in 1 hour when the event is on. Its absolutely crazy.

I dont want it nerfed. I like that there is finally an efficient XP grind spot thats instanced. But i accept the fact that it will be reduced next patch, since its just so vastly superior to the other options

Let's asume I'll grind 4 hours per day with all the mentioned above buffs and there is no XP curve. It gives me 10 days of grind to get to soft cap from 1400 CPs!

it's really impressive how some ppl can do that fir hours every day.

I did 3 times one pot lenght. each round 2 days apart.

Last round was 4 days ago. Just cant force myself to do it again... sucks all pleasure out of life..

I guess for others doing trader runs twice a day to buy decently priced writs would do the same. for me that one is quite relaxing...

Nord_Raseri

I've been duo-ing brp, would we still get good xp with a 3rd player?

colossalvoids

Xuhora wrote: »

colossalvoids wrote: »

I've read notes the minute it was posted, all the same. [snip]

Edit: it won't be changed because "too much xp" because it's the same exp as everywhere, but density per second etc matters making it the best spot right now. The only reason is server strain that everyone on a server can feel now when there hundreds of instances going at the same time which might be a reason for tuning it down.

so you think that 5 different people with no connections to each other tell the same lie? im not for for conspiracy theories, but i have to admit there seems to be something that is going on, thats why i made this post, to get at least a conformation from a ZOS member, but either gina nor kai seem to able to comment on this fact.

When foa dropped guild chats and forums were on fire with people telling stuff without any grounding so it's a possibility for sure lol. Still, yesterday evening exp gain was the same and the minute notes dropped it wasn't mentioned at all, same as now so only possibility I see is that it was included after the initial notes were posted and then deleted again as it should be in next ones or something like that

Lerozain

Nord_Raseri wrote: »

I've been duo-ing brp, would we still get good xp with a 3rd player?

I tried this a few days back, exp is significantly reduced with 3

Stahlor

Spell Scar is still better, as far as you are on your own...

ApoAlaia

Stahlor wrote: »

Spell Scar is still better, as far as you are on your own...

I prefer Spellscar too, or failing that the public dungeons in Wrothgar.

However the price I have to pay for gaining some XP on my preferred spot(s) is that I have to go there between 2 and 5 AM in my local time to make the most of it.

I have tried nBRP but I don't currently have an 'XPing partner' and solo I do not have the skill to run it on 'autopilot' (so to speak).

Either way because nBRP doesn't suit my particular circumstances, or to turn a phrase because I am currently ill suited for nBRP doesn't mean that I want it nerfed 'rebalanced' for everyone else that fits there just fine.

Zabagad

colossalvoids wrote: »

I've read notes the minute it was posted, all the same. [snip]

And what's your reason for that
Honestly, I cannot say you lie, because I red it much later and so I cannot say what was in the initial version.
Maybe there was nothing in the initial - they added it a bit later - and they removed it later after they found out, that this change didn't came in last second or failed?

The only thing which I can assure - I red it and I acknowledged somebody in the German forum after he asked about that issue.
I was only once in BRP and I never was farming there - I just red that they want to nerf XP there and it was for me just a "Ah ok - fine for me".

colossalvoids

Zabagad wrote: »

colossalvoids wrote: »

I've read notes the minute it was posted, all the same. [snip]

And what's your reason for that
Honestly, I cannot say you lie, because I red it much later and so I cannot say what was in the initial version.
Maybe there was nothing in the initial - they added it a bit later - and they removed it later after they found out, that this change didn't came in last second or failed?

The only thing which I can assure - I red it and I acknowledged somebody in the German forum after he asked about that issue.
I was only once in BRP and I never was farming there - I just red that they want to nerf XP there and it was for me just a "Ah ok - fine for me".

Lol.

So it was from notes posted in German subforum if I'm getting you right?

furiouslog

Lerozain wrote: »

Mayrael wrote: »

People are awful, thats why we can't have nice things. "If I can't have it you shouldn't to!"

This. Exactly this.

On a side note, the exp remains unchanged as of today, just confirmed it myself. And arena exp is the ONLY thing I'm looking forward to during the event.

I checked it too, it seemed to be about the same, but I had different buffs on.

And same re: the event. I even did the Mara pledge and bought dust to get ready just for this.

Cirantille

Well then what should a vet player do?

Nerf gamblers, nerf skyreach, nerf brp

It is not like you can replay quests and stories

And you put like 3600 cp in front of people suddenly then nerf everything they can get xp from

.....

Zabagad

colossalvoids wrote: »

Lol.

So it was from notes posted in German subforum if I'm getting you right?

No you didn't understand that right.

1) During the downtime I was checking the Dev Tracker
2) I saw that Gina posted the patchnotes and red them
3) ~2 hours later the German patch notes were up
4) another hour later somebody asked "Did somebody else read about BRP XP... - can't find it anymore"
5) I red that and because I remembered that too, I checked the english version and it was not in, but edited by the German Mod - the same for the German version of the patch notes.
6) I agreed to the German poster from topic 4
7) I saw this topic here and I had to smile, because OP mentioned my comment somehow
8) I red your "ppl tend to lie" and thought it could maybe help to say what I know and guarantee with my good name
9) I'm not sure how I should interpret your "lol"

furiouslog

Stahlor wrote: »

Spell Scar is still better, as far as you are on your own...

Not true. The best I could do in Spellscar solo was half of what I can do in nBRP if you have two people. nBRP was still significantly better solo, just not by the same factor.

Coatmagic

Until people stop sharing things like this on 'The Official Forums'...
it's one thing for them to come in and play all content and check stuff
and quite another for folks to come repeatedly posting maps, locations, numbers, videos...
it ALL gets the bat. Everything that gets posted on these forums like this gets the bat;
been watching it happen since start.

There are other so many other places to post this kind of thing that isn't a direct slap in the face of the company *sigh*

colossalvoids

Zabagad wrote: »

colossalvoids wrote: »

Lol.

So it was from notes posted in German subforum if I'm getting you right?

No you didn't understand that right.

1) During the downtime I was checking the Dev Tracker
2) I saw that Gina posted the patchnotes and red them
3) ~2 hours later the German patch notes were up
4) another hour later somebody asked "Did somebody else read about BRP XP... - can't find it anymore"
5) I red that and because I remembered that too, I checked the english version and it was not in, but edited by the German Mod - the same for the German version of the patch notes.

8) I red your "ppl tend to lie" and thought it could maybe help to say what I know and guarantee with my good name
9) I'm not sure how I should interpret your "lol"

Then it's pretty comical situation if they're posted notes, edited em, then edited them again because an error. All I can add is that I've read notes when there was sub twenty "watched" and it was the same as now so it can happen only if there were multiple edits.

The only thing I'm getting from all of this we got a spoiler from next patch notes so should hurry up with the farming.

8) it's actually helping to know that it's a thing and not only a rumor someone saw in his guild chat only, we're getting such stuff every patch so witnesses are welcome.
9) kinda like "yeah, you got me I'm just @ZOS_GinaBruno's employee wanting to secure their secret patch notes edit"

Xuhora

Coatmagic wrote: »

Until people stop sharing things like this on 'The Official Forums'...
it's one thing for them to come in and play all content and check stuff
and quite another for folks to come repeatedly posting maps, locations, numbers, videos...
it ALL gets the bat. Everything that gets posted on these forums like this gets the bat;
been watching it happen since start.

There are other so many other places to post this kind of thing that isn't a direct slap in the face of the company *sigh*

sorry i cant follow you? you say i shouldnt have made this discussion?

Zabagad

colossalvoids wrote: »

The only thing I'm getting from all of this we got a spoiler from next patch notes so should hurry up with the farming.

I agree on that conclusion - I have no other explanation too.
And as I said - I don't even care about that issue.
They can nerf it, or leave it like it is - I will never go there to farm XP anyway