Anyone else like really hate this patch?

skulltape

This is all about the developers not coding properties correctly and implementing hash tables correctly. They complained about server lag due to checking every step and axe swing against a myriad of checks (ie mount speed etc) when it wasn't really necessary. Now they are coding for speed instead of function, and we all now suffer. Those that think your character is better now, didn't have a good character before. The rest of us are now questioning whether to put money into this game.

Kwoung

Returned from launch, played hard the last 2 years, the last one of which was spent finding a character / setup I could actually manage to do decent DPS on, which I found last month and was elated to not only break 55K, but actually hit 91K DPS! Today after re-alloting everything with my mere 1025 CP points, I am back to square one. I barely managed to hit 70K DPS, 65K was more the norm after many tries.

I do not have multiple years of grinding left in me to get back to where I was yesterday. I am at a complete loss at this point and don't know what to do. I am more than very sad as I really was enjoying this game.

SimonBelmont

I could not hate this more.

What problems did this solve? None. It created problems and insults the player-base.

Unless the problem was that too many players had reached the end of the "CP hallway". And the solution they went with was to stretch a grossly inferior hallway out to 4.5 times the length of the previous one. Rather than come up with something fresh, to add to what we already had.

ThorianB

SimonBelmont wrote: »

I could not hate this more.

What problems did this solve? None. It created problems and insults the player-base.

Unless the problem was that too many players had reached the end of the "CP hallway". And the solution they went with was to stretch a grossly inferior hallway out to 4.5 times the length of the previous one. Rather than come up with something fresh, to add to what we already had.

After over a year of working on this, i really thought they would come up with something better than the CP system. I don't find CP2.0 to allow the customization they claim. I actually find it a PITA that what use to be free passives are now expensive slottables. They don't give us the tools that make managing a bunch of options easy like a quick swap of "profiles" so this just makes effectively using the slot system to be a tedious chore.

method__01

im stopping everything in game,until this team and their cp rework goes away
all my accounts stay frozen,no CS purchases, no notable houses, no crates,no chapters, nothing at all

my anger is bigger than my addiction,too bad New World isnt out yet so i can start play there

DukeCybran

I regret having renewed my subscription. I hope the next companion update can comfort me a bit.

SeaArcanist

yes i dislike this change. not only to CP but because of how they handle cyrodiil now. cp system doesnt take much to get use to. but my goodness. the errors. like did ya know the 1200-1400 extra WD/SD they added because of the percentile removals from chap. applies in non champ now? making non champ damage especially wack.

several issues with the new CP system that would take too much take to adress from a PvPers standpoint. pvers just notice they have more hp and more WD/SD. makign content easier for them. but hell for us pvpers.

also it takes pvers roughly 1400-1600 to maximize pve potential but pvpers need 2100+ to maximize pvp potential. meanign the grind is real for pvpers.

all those extra perks that dont need slotted i nthe warfare subsection. bonus WD, percentile mitigations, armor penetration. it's crazy. simply crazy to assume this is balanced.

2.0 is very pve catered. i nthe sense that it makes life easier for pvers, but man does it ruin pvp.

DarcyMardin

Disaster. Logged out rather than micromanage all my alts.

Kurat

SeaArcanist wrote: »

yes i dislike this change. not only to CP but because of how they handle cyrodiil now. cp system doesnt take much to get use to. but my goodness. the errors. like did ya know the 1200-1400 extra WD/SD they added because of the percentile removals from chap. applies in non champ now? making non champ damage especially wack.

several issues with the new CP system that would take too much take to adress from a PvPers standpoint. pvers just notice they have more hp and more WD/SD. makign content easier for them. but hell for us pvpers.

also it takes pvers roughly 1400-1600 to maximize pve potential but pvpers need 2100+ to maximize pvp potential. meanign the grind is real for pvpers.

all those extra perks that dont need slotted i nthe warfare subsection. bonus WD, percentile mitigations, armor penetration. it's crazy. simply crazy to assume this is balanced.

2.0 is very pve catered. i nthe sense that it makes life easier for pvers, but man does it ruin pvp.

I'm glad for once PVPers got the short end of the stick. How many times pve gameplay has been nerfed because PVPers complain and asking nerfs? Look at the pve tank nerfs this time again.
Happy grinding

lurkin777

I dislike the change also because of the complexity of the new CP system and the lack of explanation of the direct effects of the steps. No explanation of what each skill effects my DPS so I can decide what is the better places to put my points.

I also hate that now my harvesting is going to suck because I don't have the points to get my harvesting time decrease now.

I also feel that the CP should have been modified to represent the amount of experience I have into the CP not the number of CP I had so I should now have more CP.

I also hate that not all my characters got my skills refunded so I can respect them.

Starlight_Whisper

lurkin777 wrote: »

I dislike the change also because of the complexity of the new CP system and the lack of explanation of the direct effects of the steps. No explanation of what each skill effects my DPS so I can decide what is the better places to put my points.

I also hate that now my harvesting is going to suck because I don't have the points to get my harvesting time decrease now.

I also feel that the CP should have been modified to represent the amount of experience I have into the CP not the number of CP I had so I should now have more CP.

I also hate that not all my characters got my skills refunded so I can respect them.

Shrine is free respecs for the next two weeks

remosito

really hate the new cp system as is.

Green tree all passives. the 4 green slots given to blue, red. 2 each. plus cp scaling based on total Xp earned. I think I might just have liked it quite a bit.

BazOfWar

Just as others have mentioned, I'm p/o that 90% of the gear that I worked so hard to get and gold out is now useless in most of my my builds.

The prospect of grinding new gear for them to do the same again is disheartening. I will probably just find something else to play.

Nebthet78

barney2525 wrote: »

I really hate peanut butter and sardine sandwiches

Are they in this patch?

This patch is the peanut butter and sardine sandwich. The taste just hasn't completely hit you yet!

russelmmendoza

If I ever express how much I love this patch I would definitely get that permaban [snip]

[Edited to remove Discussing Disciplinary Actions]

Daimonion82

Too soon to really say something about combat, but... The green tree is just plain terrible. I don't get, why quality of life things are slotable. Reducing gathering time, double resource nodes, more gold in chests, fishing, fencing, crafting - EVERYTHING is slotable. May I ask what's the point in this? We were told there will be choices, but choosing between more stamina and more magicka, more tank/more dps is completely different thing than choosing between passives that should be available for everyone without sloting them.

Qagh

I have deleted the game now.

Jaraal

Green tree is garbage, and not being able to use 95% of the gear I paid for and spent hundreds of hours to get is insulting, and just plain heartless. Spent months trying to get that perfect MA weapon? They don't care. Maybe you can use it again in six months (at minimum, no guarantee they will "have the code in place" by then). And that's if you're still around to play. Cyro was like a ghost town today without the lure of double AP, and it's not going to get better before Q3.

Thanks for nothing, ZOS.

Vostorn

I should have renewed my sub yesterday but I didn't because I was scared of this rework.

It's even worse than I thought. I just deleted the game.

I had a lot of fun for 8 years, came back and forth but I don't think I will come back this time.

I'm off. Have a good one.

ApoAlaia

I'm struggling with it at the moment.

The choice to wipe out 2/3rds of my accrued XP without so much as a footnote on why it had to be this way (leaving it to the players to fill the blanks with their take on the subject is not a valid substitute for official communication, unless the players that were staunchly defending the move were the actual official communication) and the design of the green tree (which is going to be like walking with a stone in my shoe that I can't shake off) are already irking me, on top of that I spent most of my playing time yesterday 'retooling' my characters and I am only half way there which really did little to improve the mood.

I'm just going to take a deep breath, settle into my routine of surveys and writs with a sprinkle of dailies (which don't require having a long hard look to the gear and CP) for a few days and then come the weekend, with the assistance of copious amounts of tea, experience all the rest of the changes one race/class at a time and see how it goes.

So far my experience of this patch is 'change for the sake of change' with a side serving of busywork so well, not great.

Thorley23_ESO

Kwoung wrote: »

Returned from launch, played hard the last 2 years, the last one of which was spent finding a character / setup I could actually manage to do decent DPS on, which I found last month and was elated to not only break 55K, but actually hit 91K DPS! Today after re-alloting everything with my mere 1025 CP points, I am back to square one. I barely managed to hit 70K DPS, 65K was more the norm after many tries.

I do not have multiple years of grinding left in me to get back to where I was yesterday. I am at a complete loss at this point and don't know what to do. I am more than very sad as I really was enjoying this game.

Yeeep, I feel the pain. I've been playing since Beta, as a filthy casual. I am at a whopping 903 CPs (less than you), but I could do all the content I wanted to with a proper distribution of my initial 810 points. I had a good number of alts, and some of them were really good at what they did.

My biggest problem with this patch is that ZOS is telling Forbes and other news outlets that with the changes nobody is losing any power and can still do all the content they could before. This seems to be a lie as you cannot reach the same numbers within 810 points, tanks are squishier, people are scoring less DPS, healing is less powerful. As far as I can see the rest of the game was not "nerfed down" to match the new expectations so things remained relatively balanced.

See, I might actually be less upset if they weren't lying about the reality of the situation to the media.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidjagneaux/2021/03/08/flames-of-ambition-dungeon-dlc-and-update-29-now-live-for-elder-scrolls-online-on-pc-mac-and-stadia/?sh=3208d087e360

I can deal with some bad design choices, but I really hate it when people tell me something is true, when it can be demonstrated to not be true so easily.

barney2525

I still don't get the " I'll never be as powerful as I was before"

Why are people ONLY looking at CPs? Why do people think ONLY CPs are what makes their character strong?

Why aren't people looking at ALL the changes and the Big Picture of All the improvements of the character.

I don't sponsor anyone, but I found this video when I was researching the changes.

Note- I point out the 4th section about stats at 6:48 of the video.

Let's be honest. Your character is Not as weak as you are claiming.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=36-26stMclk

RedMuse

Moith wrote: »

Quit paying Microsoft (ZOS) for ruining the game

The transfer to Microsoft haven't happened yet, so they have no influence on what happens. Especially as these changes were pretty far long before they even bought the company.

RedMuse

Overall the only thing I'm really, truly annoyed about is the green tree. Yeah I can live with that, but I won't enjoy it. It is a pita and I can only assume it was deliberately constructed that way to irritate and annoy players. There seem no other logic behind it.

Nebthet78

I hate this patch.. so you are not alone OP. I'm sick and tired of having any progress I do have stripped away every year.

I'll be speaking with my wallet this entire year. No DLCs. No Chapter (that was the one thing I would still purchase yearly). No ESO+ No! No! No! NO! NO! NO!!!!

Dojohoda

I must be retired.
Setting up one character and playing and reslotting the huge amount of slottables to the paltry amount of slots made me Tired.
Just thinking about logging in and doing this again makes me Tired again, so I'm ReTired.

sliabh

Red_Feather wrote: »

My stam sorcery used bow build and now it is so bleck and I don't know if it's a bug or or intended.

All my bow builds are useless now , Im thinking now i cant play anymore, what a joke this has become.

pdeb360

skulltape wrote: »

This is all about the developers not coding properties correctly and implementing hash tables correctly. They complained about server lag due to checking every step and axe swing against a myriad of checks (ie mount speed etc) when it wasn't really necessary. Now they are coding for speed instead of function, and we all now suffer. Those that think your character is better now, didn't have a good character before. The rest of us are now questioning whether to put money into this game.

As a magscorc playing only pvp non cp i realy like the changes .

MageCatF4F

The patch has two good things and they have nothing to do with CP.

At CP 850 I feel the nerf. So, I guess I'm not real pleased with U29. I suppose they won't miss my subscription but I feel better about stopping it.

Moith

StormWylf wrote: »

Is there a stronger word than Hate that we can use?

Don't give $$ to microsoft (ZOS)

its very satisfying to keep it