Why only 2 event tickets per day? Every other has been 3 per day.

SeaGtGruff

Nomadic_Atmoran wrote: »

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

Nomadic_Atmoran wrote: »

You cant even complete the outfit style if you start from scratch here.

Don't forget that outfit style pages will drop in the reward boxes; you don't have to buy all of them with tickets, only the ones you want that you didn't get as drops-- or got, but chose to sell instead of keep for yourself.

Don't forget that there is a thing called RNGesus and not everyone are no-lifers that will cycle through 18 characters in a single day to maximize their chances.

Don't forget that you can get event reward boxes by farming mat nodes-- even water. It's probably easier to farm them that way than to do the dailies on multiple characters-- although you won't get the doubled standard daily reward boxes. I do the events on just 2 characters, 1 per server, and I don't usually have much trouble collecting or buying all of the style pages by the time an event is over.

virtus753

Ratzkifal wrote: »

Wasn't there an event where you got 5 tickets a day because midyear mayham was cancelled that year? I vaguely remember something like that happening.

There were two events that gave five tickets.

The one you’re probably thinking of was New Life 2019-2020, which gave 2 of its own and then 3 more due to the failed Undaunted event from the prior month. The Undaunted event had started as planned but needed to be deactivated within hours. Midyear Mayhem, on the other hand, was postponed for a while so they could work on LFG finder fixes, but no event was explicitly said to have made up for that.

The other event that gave five was the Anniversary Jubilee from 2020.

UESP (linked above) has a complete list of events and their tickets.

Nairinhe

OK, what do we have here...
First, looks like I'm a no-lifer, because after the first day of event I already have three or four pages of the style, a pet fragment, a skin (and a second runebox)... Oh, wait, I only ran all the dailies and both trials once on my main and two boss dailies on another character. For fun, not for farm.
Second, people want to get everything while only doing minimum required for tickets and start panicking when they can't. Chill, if my drop rate is any indicator, everything will be dirt cheap in guild stores by the end of the event. (Thanks to "no-lifers")
Third, players still can't get the priorities right: you never ever focus all-year collectible, it's always limited morph first, then the base.
And last, but not least: Hi, Dudley! Less presents than last year again, eh?

Olauron

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

Nomadic_Atmoran wrote: »

You cant even complete the outfit style if you start from scratch here.

Don't forget that outfit style pages will drop in the reward boxes; you don't have to buy all of them with tickets, only the ones you want that you didn't get as drops-- or got, but chose to sell instead of keep for yourself.

No.

Public dungeon and world bosses have a chance to drop a tradeable NEW style page for the new Doctrine Ordinator outfit style
The final boss in both the Asylum Sanctorum and Halls of Fabrication have a guaranteed chance to drop a tradeable style page for the new Doctrine Ordinator outfit style

Within this consecrated container, you’ll have a chance to receive some of these thrice-blessed items:
Crafting materials
Overland set items from the two zones
Style pages (and in rare cases, entire Motif Chapters) for the Ashlander, Morag Tong, Telvanni, Redoran, Hlaalu, Ebonshadow, and Clockwork Apostle styles
Transmutation Crystals
Vvardenfell or Clockwork City treasure maps
NEW The Slag Town Diver Skin Runebox (tradeable)
NEW Thetys Ramarys’s Bait Kit memento Runebox (tradeable)
NEW Fragments for the Microtized Verminous Fabricant pet (tradeable)

ChuckyPayne

Because this year, enough 3 event for a collectibe. Last year 4 events / collectible.

3 events / 3 months instead of 4 events / 3 months
- We feel less of too much event
- Event can be shorter

Michae

I've been participating in all the events since the autumn of 2018 when the indriks were introduced. I barely found them grindy for most part. Outside of Murkmire and last Midyear Mayhem I got all the things (well I missed the Jade helmet and shoulder thingy since I hearded tickets only to have them in abundance in the following New Life). In Murkmire the droprates were atrocious and the fragments were bound so you either had to grind or fork up tickets, there was really no reliable way to get everything. It was the only event like that. During last Midyear Mayhem the droprates on Ebonsteel were low and the grind in PvP zone is harder so I just shrugged and got 4 pages for tickets, one page from grind and skipped on the girdle since it wasn't worth 300k gold to me (but still it was perfectly possible to get everything with relatively little grind). This event seems to be dropping boxes left and right, you can camp bosses without the fear of other players killing you so I expect that the guild banks and stores will be brimming with runeboxes and style pages near the end of the event. No worries.

Ishtarknows

Nomadic_Atmoran wrote: »

AlnilamE wrote: »

Nomadic_Atmoran wrote: »

B0SSzombie wrote: »

There have been 2 ticket a day Events before.

And considering that there's only 3 pieces of the base morph, and 3 pieces to morph it, instead of 4 and 4 like with the Indriks, we don't need as many Tickets anyway.

And if youre just starting. This event basically forces you to focus on the pet and maybe a single piece of the skin. You won't have the tickets to get anything else. Want more than that? You will have to chase down everything else via grinding on multiple characters with no guarantee that RNGesus will be on your side. That outfit style? The skin and momento? Maybe next time.

And before anyone goes on a rant about how there WILL be a next time. I'm not arguing that people should be able to collect everything in the Impersarios store in one event. Just that 26 tickets is a bit tight when people are trying to not only collect the yearly rewards but also get a little something from the individual event itself. This event forces you to turn to the Crown Store and that shouldn't be praised or defended ever.

I mean, if you are starting on the second event of a quarter, you are going to have to make choices. There's no way around that.

However, keep in mind that the pet pieces will be here for the entire year, and the skin pieces will be here until the end of March.

It's almost as if you didn't read the second half of what I posted. The point here is that the rewards for the events have now out grown the payouts of these events. It used to be that you could at the very least get what you needed for the yearly event and a little something from the current event itself. But that is getting more and more difficult with every event. Currently there are 87 tickets worth of items in the Impersario with a maximum of 26 tickets for this event. You cant even complete the outfit style if you start from scratch here.

But last event there were enough tickets to buy the pet, the first piece of the skin morph, the pieces to make another pet and something else I forget as well as having several left over. So if you participated in that event you're already ahead of the game. If this is your first event this year you'll have to accept you're playing catch up and choose accordingly. Focus on the items only available with tickets and do quests for boxes. Most of the collectables will be available in guild stores during and after the event anyway.

SshadowSscale

Because the argonians don't approve of this so called tribunal celebration XD

Starlock

Nomadic_Atmoran wrote: »

Do the math here. 26 tickets. 50+ tickets to get everything new in the Impersario store. Even if you aren't aiming for everything. Even if youre just trying to catch up and get an item or two. You're hard pressed to do so. The argument I am making here is not that the event has absolutely failed on all fronts. Its that the ticket pay out is not keeping up with the amount of items the Impersario and the event now offers. In the past 2 tickets per day was fine and manageable because at the time the Impersario did not offer much. It was a much more laid back approach to obtaining the fun things you could buy with the tickets that anyone casual or hardcore grinder alike could participate in. But now that they are adding more and more things to the store to obtain. Its going to get more and more difficult to use your tickets for what you want.

In some cases - and I've observed this myself in some past events - you're right. For this one? Doesn't seem to be the case so far. The three things I pointed out earlier help ameliorate these issues. That's why I feel this event is a step in a good direction. Players - even those who aren't grinding (I'm one of those) - won't need to use event tickets to get everything the Impresario is offering. The only things that are bound/untradable are the fragments for the morpholith. Everything else drops in the wild and/or can be traded freely between players and so far the drop rates seem pretty darned reasonable.

I realize this is anecdotal, but I only did a dozen dailies yesterday (2 characters, basically) and got 2 style pages along with 4 pet fragments. If and when we start seeing the style pages flooding guild stores (and I suspect they will) there's no need for most players to be spending even tickets on those. The sleazy part of this event is the fact that the new style can't be completed entirely by playing the game - half of it is cash shop exclusive (the weapons). They did this last event too, IIRC, and it was just as sleazy then.

Let's collect more anecdotes from fellow players on drop rates then draw more conclusions from there.

Nomadic_Atmoran wrote: »

I think the biggest disconnect here for a lot of people is that they cant see things from the casual/new player perspective here. A lot of you are the grinders. Youre going to run the event with multiple characters and a lot of you are going to purchase those Crown Tickets because you can. I dont think it unreasonable to point out that ZOS might need to reevaluate the payouts to reflect the growth in the event store itself.

Quoted for increased visibility.

Kiralyn2000

Nomadic_Atmoran wrote: »

Do the math here. 26 tickets. 50+ tickets to get everything new in the Impersario store. Even if you aren't aiming for everything. Even if youre just trying to catch up and get an item or two. You're hard pressed to do so. The argument I am making here is not that the event has absolutely failed on all fronts. Its that the ticket pay out is not keeping up with the amount of items the Impersario and the event now offers.

ZOS really can't win here. The early events had just a handful of items, and people said "eh, I'm skipping, there's nothing I want! Give us other options, I'm just throwing tickets away event after event!"

So they add more options to the Impressario, and the "gotta get everything" crowd starts yelling about how it's all a conspiracy to 'force' people to buy tickets for crowns.

Starlock

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

Nomadic_Atmoran wrote: »

Do the math here. 26 tickets. 50+ tickets to get everything new in the Impersario store. Even if you aren't aiming for everything. Even if youre just trying to catch up and get an item or two. You're hard pressed to do so. The argument I am making here is not that the event has absolutely failed on all fronts. Its that the ticket pay out is not keeping up with the amount of items the Impersario and the event now offers.

ZOS really can't win here. The early events had just a handful of items, and people said "eh, I'm skipping, there's nothing I want! Give us other options, I'm just throwing tickets away event after event!"

So they add more options to the Impressario, and the "gotta get everything" crowd starts yelling about how it's all a conspiracy to 'force' people to buy tickets for crowns.

This is an oversimplification of a complex situation. While it is true that any large and successful business venture cannot satisfy everyone, it is not true that such ventures have to engage in customer-unfriendly monetization of its products.

ZoS created this problem for itself when it decided to over-monetize events. Consider what the landscape of our events would look like if they were still done the way they used to be done. Were you around back then? Do you remember when event rewards could only be earned by actually doing the event and trading with fellow players and that was it? That was good, fair, healthy monetization. What we have now? Problematic.

SeaGtGruff

Olauron wrote: »

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

Nomadic_Atmoran wrote: »

You cant even complete the outfit style if you start from scratch here.

Don't forget that outfit style pages will drop in the reward boxes; you don't have to buy all of them with tickets, only the ones you want that you didn't get as drops-- or got, but chose to sell instead of keep for yourself.

No.

Yeah, that was my bad. I honestly thought they were supposed to, and was disappointed when I reread the announcement and saw otherwise.

But the reason I came back to this thread tonight is to say that I've already got nearly half of the new style pages on both of the servers I play on, and that's doing the zone dailies on just one character per server, plus harvesting nodes and killing any MOBs and small "bosses" on the way to wherever those dailies need me to go. I've yet to spend a single ticket on the pages.

PC EU: I currently have 3 of the 7 pages, plus 1 duplicate.
PC NA: I currently have 3 of the 7 pages.

I've also got some of the other event collectibles without having had to buy them with tickets. So far the only thing I've spent any tickets on is the second of the rune-scribed fragments for transforming the pet into the outfit or skin or whatever. After I buy the second fragment for the duplicate of the pet (to replace the one that I'll transform), I can start buying any outfit pages that I haven't already acquired yet.

And the event isn't even half over yet. It shouldn't be a problem for me to collect the complete outfit style plus all of the other collectibles before the event ends.

Which was the point I was trying to make with my previous posts. There's no need for anyone to get bent out of shape about the number of earnable tickets per day from this event as compared to some of the previous events.

Nomadic_Atmoran

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

Nomadic_Atmoran wrote: »

Do the math here. 26 tickets. 50+ tickets to get everything new in the Impersario store. Even if you aren't aiming for everything. Even if youre just trying to catch up and get an item or two. You're hard pressed to do so. The argument I am making here is not that the event has absolutely failed on all fronts. Its that the ticket pay out is not keeping up with the amount of items the Impersario and the event now offers.

ZOS really can't win here. The early events had just a handful of items, and people said "eh, I'm skipping, there's nothing I want! Give us other options, I'm just throwing tickets away event after event!"

So they add more options to the Impressario, and the "gotta get everything" crowd starts yelling about how it's all a conspiracy to 'force' people to buy tickets for crowns.

1.) You need to do a better job of actually following the discussion.
2.) No one is arguing about taking everything from the store. Its that the ticket pay out is not necessarily keeping up with the amount of options in the store.
3.) New players and casual players are not in as a comfortable position as whales and experienced players to get what they want from this event because of the payout.

I as an experienced player already have what I want from this event. Maybe Ill grab a few more things since we still have time. But I still think the pay outs should be looked at by ZOS so they aren't leaving players hanging. Not everyone can be in the game for extended periods, not everyone can purchase what they want from Traders and the Crown Store. And there is no good reason for them to not be able to get what they want within reason from the Impersario. Especially when the next time the event is ran there will be even more things available.