PvP test seems to be making things worse.

Xirks

The no proc sets is nice because it seems more skill based playing but the lag seems much worse. ZOS needs to figure this stuff out instead of giving us false hope. Changing in game sets is not going to fix the performance.. You need hardware upgrades, please stop being so cheap and just do it already. The more we wait, the less hope we get. [Snip].

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Sgrug

Lag seems better to me. Several others have also said it got better. Maybe we just should let the test run and let ZoS decide. They have the tools for it.

FantasticFreddie

It's been live for 5 minutes, give it a day

nckg84

Next test => No procs, and groups limited to 12 and group heals only.

If that does not change then there code is 1 big giant pile of spaghetti coded by lemmings.

Xirks

Their coding has been screwed up since the end of year one.. They have major leaks and have not given any attention to it for years. Its far to late to fix at this point.

TequilaFire

I am shocked, there is no magic bullet.
It is a combo of things.

L_Nici

I personally have no lag issues at all, haven't had such a smooth PvP experience in many months.

NeoXanthus

Xirks wrote: »

The no proc sets is nice because it seems more skill based playing but the lag seems much worse. ZOS needs to figure this stuff out instead of giving us false hope. Changing in game sets is not going to fix the performance.. You need hardware upgrades, please stop being so cheap and just do it already. The more we wait, the less hope we get. It might help if some of your employees actually played the game, instead of having "cooking streams" and not knowing what the hell is actually going on in the game.

You mean you can’t play a continually updated 2021 MMO on server farms of the 2013 vintage? Strange, I am sure if they remove all skills along with all armor it will fix it.

vgabor

Xirks wrote: »

Their coding has been screwed up since the end of year one.. They have major leaks and have not given any attention to it for years. Its far to late to fix at this point.

Well, considering that sets like Seducer with a flat 10% cost reduction works as proc set, I'd say that code is beyond redemption unless rewritten from scratch.

TequilaFire

Always be careful what you wish for.
Yes a lot of proc sets are cheese and need selectively removed, but not all proc sets are that bad.
But we all know ZOS will take the easy way out and disable all procs.

Tigertron

FantasticFreddie wrote: »

It's been live for 5 minutes, give it a day

At least right? This is why I start my day on the forums. It’s like a bugs bunny cartoon.

VaranisArano

nckg84 wrote: »

Next test => No procs, and groups limited to 12 and group heals only.

If that does not change then there code is 1 big giant pile of spaghetti coded by lemmings.

Well, logically, it shouldn't change a thing because ZOS has already said three times that cross-heals vs group-only healing had no appreciable impact on performance. So I'm not sure why you'd expect a change, unless ZOS is lying or mistaken.

Now, if you wanted to eliminate or reduce heal-stacking from same source heals, at least that would be something that might make a difference.

Rungar

after this tests fails hopefully they will move on to the following test:

-light/heavy attacks on the gcd
-disable rapid & radiating regeneration skill and poison injection and other morph skill.

that should be enough.

Sgrug

Rungar wrote: »

after this tests fails hopefully they will move on to the following test:

-light/heavy attacks on the gcd
-disable rapid & radiating regeneration skill and poison injection and other morph skill.

that should be enough.

The test is already massively improving PvP.

Epona222

I've been having trouble using transitus because keeps aren't loading on the map when I interact with the transitus shrine, making it difficult to move around.

Also I don't seem to be getting ROTW mails...

xaraan

Yea, the lag has been worse for me. On my magplar, jabs and sweep still not firing, weapon swapping doesn't work quickly enough, etc. And wasn't even a queue when I came in.

Could be more players are scared to play in smaller groups so it's zergier than normal? idk

DUTCH_REAPER

had a HUGE bridge and a HUGE ales farm fight, all of the pop locked faction was at each for the most part and you know what? the game....it was......playable i love this test.

CSose

DUTCH_REAPER wrote: »

had a HUGE bridge and a HUGE ales farm fight, all of the pop locked faction was at each for the most part and you know what? the game....it was......playable i love this test.

...but the fight was lagging people out on the other side of the map though.

SOLDIER_1stClass

Sgrug wrote: »

Rungar wrote: »

after this tests fails hopefully they will move on to the following test:

-light/heavy attacks on the gcd
-disable rapid & radiating regeneration skill and poison injection and other morph skill.

that should be enough.

The test is already massively improving PvP.

Fun wise sure; performance wise no. Atleast not for any of the groups I've been in.

All the groups I have been have had the same performance per usual.

But the fun has doubled.

Some people will say performance has improved some will say they haven't noticed a change. It could just be a good server day or bad server day for some.

However I will say this, you will get ALOT OF LIARS over the next couple of weeks saying either performance has improved or hasn't to push either the get rid of proc or keep procs agenda.

So it's best to just wait for what Zeni says the data says at the end.

Either way no proc cyro is definitely more fun in my opinion.

xaraan

Anyone saying there is no lag in greyhost during those huge fights must be just zerging and firing off one skill that normally doesn't have problems in lag.

I could not bar swap efficiently, jabs was not working right, beam was not firing off, sweep was not triggering efficiently, etc. If I was in a huge zerg and just heavy attacked and threw a breath of life, i'd have thought it was fine.

Goregrinder

TequilaFire wrote: »

I am shocked, there is no magic bullet.
It is a combo of things.

There is usually never a single magic bullet. Performance solutions are always the amalgamation of all systems involved. The hardware, the network, the software, the code, practically all 7-layers of the OSI.

Jaraal

I haven't noticed any improvements in lag.

Fights take longer, resource and keep captures take longer. Seems like there is more action going on at all times. Definitely more people running away from battles than before.... not sure if it's because people are still learning new setups or if they are realizing they just don't have the killing power they did yesterday. But it's definitely an interesting experience.

regime211

Sgrug wrote: »

Rungar wrote: »

after this tests fails hopefully they will move on to the following test:

-light/heavy attacks on the gcd
-disable rapid & radiating regeneration skill and poison injection and other morph skill.

that should be enough.

The test is already massively improving PvP.

No it is not. Please specify what platform you are playing on. Because PC NA grayhost is absolutely disgustingly bad with this test going on.

regime211

xaraan wrote: »

Anyone saying there is no lag in greyhost during those huge fights must be just zerging and firing off one skill that normally doesn't have problems in lag.

I could not bar swap efficiently, jabs was not working right, beam was not firing off, sweep was not triggering efficiently, etc. If I was in a huge zerg and just heavy attacked and threw a breath of life, i'd have thought it was fine.

This is what I'm saying! Some of these people saying performance is way better are outright lying, if you're in a huge zerg just spamming Light & heavy attack or one ability how can you positively say performance is way better? On PC NA in grayhost the performance was just down right terrible, there was absolutely no difference. You could pop on twitch and watch the many streamers who stated that exact sentiment.

PaddyVu

Soulshine wrote: »

"Cooking streams...."

What does that mean anyway?

Ackwalan

Epona222 wrote: »

I've been having trouble using transitus because keeps aren't loading on the map when I interact with the transitus shrine, making it difficult to move around.

Also I don't seem to be getting ROTW mails...

The way the double AP is calculated is affecting the ROTW earn rate. At lvl 50 (or so) you get a ROTW every 20K ap, but the double ap bonus is not being added to the ROTW earn rate. You need to earn 20K ap with out adding the bonus. For example, you earn 22K ap + the bonus of 22K ap and end up with 44K ap total. You will only get 1 ROTW not 2.

Nemeliom

I don't know about performance, but the gameplay has improved A LOT! Not having inmortal builds that turn around and one.shot you is a glorious thing.
Haven't enjoyed cyrodiil this much since ever.

Anyron

Ackwalan wrote: »

Epona222 wrote: »

I've been having trouble using transitus because keeps aren't loading on the map when I interact with the transitus shrine, making it difficult to move around.

Also I don't seem to be getting ROTW mails...

The way the double AP is calculated is affecting the ROTW earn rate. At lvl 50 (or so) you get a ROTW every 20K ap, but the double ap bonus is not being added to the ROTW earn rate. You need to earn 20K ap with out adding the bonus. For example, you earn 22K ap + the bonus of 22K ap and end up with 44K ap total. You will only get 1 ROTW not 2.

Im ok with that.. Its full of trash anyway

DUTCH_REAPER

played during primetime and it lagged still, sloooow skills goin off and movement. No crashes though. Bar swappn got difficult at a few points and forget anime canceling in it. But the fights were a ton more fun.

AyaDark

The same lugs, sets do not work -> just will not play cirodil this days - ok.

(Even some not proc sets do not work)
See no point to do new grar just for 3 week test. Better will not play TESO this month

AyaDark

13 february i played at 4 am (GMT+3)

Full compaing - working proc sets. No lags at all !!! Game was perfect.

I thing the real problem is just server overload !!! Not enough power in prime time. That is all, and yes some sets like Azur Blight are buged and can make lags.

So it will not really help.

Only more powerfull server or seporated server for PVP can really help.

All other work is just to show some work not real changes at all for me.

It is my opinion