PvP test Results

Wing

lag still there under load

BUT

the combat and meta is a million times better.
everyone in zone is talking about how nice the combat and feel is, nothing but compliments.

would love to see how this combat performs under CP 2.0

maybe throw in a fix/ nerf to radiating regen and mass purge and we got ourselves some amazing pvp combat.

love this test even if the lag is there.

actosh

Experienced no lag for the 30mins I've tested on ravenwatch.

Game play is so awesome.
It also shows which skills are slightly overperforming(same as before as a hint).

gatekeeper13

I absolutely LOVE this test.

With the proc sets gone, no more "unkillable players". Looks like those people were being carried by their sets and not their skill, as they claimed. The same guys that were immortal, unkillable and with infinite resources before the test, look 70% weaker now and die relatively easy.

Also less lag. Still there but less.

I hope this test stays forever. This is how pvp should be in this game

Sgrug

gatekeeper13 wrote: »

I absolutely LOVE this test.

With the proc sets gone, no more "unkillable players". Looks like those people were being carried by their sets and not their skill, as they claimed. The same guys that were immortal, unkillable and with infinite resources before the test, look 70% weaker now and die relatively easy.

Also less lag. Still there but less.

I hope this test stays forever. This is how pvp should be in this game

QFT

Sure is a lot of crow being served. PROCs were obviously a massive carry. It shows the game in PvP had become all about PROC gear and nothing about skill.

Greasytengu

Im going to wait until I get in there during primetime before I jump to any conclusions.

If proc sets are a major cause of lag then I hop the solution is fixing and streamlining them rather just removing them.

techyeshic

I had to look as I see all this talk and Im doing writs thinking "How is this really tested. Nobody is on yet." Look and Gray Host is 2 out of 3 factions at least soft locked. lol

Sgrug

techyeshic wrote: »

I had to look as I see all this talk and Im doing writs thinking "How is this really tested. Nobody is on yet." Look and Gray Host is 2 out of 3 factions at least soft locked. lol

Not sure what you are implying. GreyHost is pretty much full, with 2 locks and high bars for AD, been like that all morning. Definitely enough playing to test things out.

techyeshic

Sgrug wrote: »

techyeshic wrote: »

I had to look as I see all this talk and Im doing writs thinking "How is this really tested. Nobody is on yet." Look and Gray Host is 2 out of 3 factions at least soft locked. lol

Not sure what you are implying. GreyHost is pretty much full, with 2 locks and high bars for AD, been like that all morning. Definitely enough playing to test things out.

I was saying I was surprised to look and see how full it was.

Wing

techyeshic wrote: »

Sgrug wrote: »

techyeshic wrote: »

I had to look as I see all this talk and Im doing writs thinking "How is this really tested. Nobody is on yet." Look and Gray Host is 2 out of 3 factions at least soft locked. lol

Not sure what you are implying. GreyHost is pretty much full, with 2 locks and high bars for AD, been like that all morning. Definitely enough playing to test things out.

I was saying I was surprised to look and see how full it was.

yeah and general chat has been super positive, everyone loves it, like pvp from 4+ years ago

Kadraeus

gatekeeper13 wrote: »

I absolutely LOVE this test.

With the proc sets gone, no more "unkillable players". Looks like those people were being carried by their sets and not their skill, as they claimed. The same guys that were immortal, unkillable and with infinite resources before the test, look 70% weaker now and die relatively easy.

Also less lag. Still there but less.

I hope this test stays forever. This is how pvp should be in this game

Is this actually the case? I've been saying for a while that it wasn't skill that made the players impossible to kill but it was their gear. And that's what put me off from PvP. People would always act like I was insane whenever I said it too.

L_Nici

@Kadraeus Yes it is the case. Some people still try to build tanky, but without the Proccarry they can neither heal enough or deal any damage. They get just bursted like the rest of the mortals.

Wing

Kadraeus wrote: »

gatekeeper13 wrote: »

I absolutely LOVE this test.

With the proc sets gone, no more "unkillable players". Looks like those people were being carried by their sets and not their skill, as they claimed. The same guys that were immortal, unkillable and with infinite resources before the test, look 70% weaker now and die relatively easy.

Also less lag. Still there but less.

I hope this test stays forever. This is how pvp should be in this game

Is this actually the case? I've been saying for a while that it wasn't skill that made the players impossible to kill but it was their gear. And that's what put me off from PvP. People would always act like I was insane whenever I said it too.

of course they did.

just like back when "exploits were not a thing git gud" and then a couple people showed off that cheat engine did work and players were exploiting it. over christmas break one year when ZOS was out of the office a couple players were flying around Cyro spamming the meteor ultimate, and i mean flying, they would float above keeps just spamming meteors.

and all the "there are no cheats" cheaters had to eat crow.

Sun7dance

Hey ZOS,

why are you waiting for another three weeks? The results are already clear! Just close the test and throw out all procc sets!

TequilaFire

Yeah test something for 5 minutes and make a decision.
Gotta love propaganda with an agenda.

The_Lex

Amazing how many of us (me included) were looking forward to this test more for relief from this cancerous proc meta than anything else. I mean, we still want PvP fixed, but this meta was the worst.

Sgrug

The_Lex wrote: »

Amazing how many of us (me included) were looking forward to this test more for the relief from this cancerous proc meta than anything. I mean, we still want PvP fixed, but this meta was the worst.

Agree, it is becoming so obvious we do not even see folks coming here defending procs. Proc sets made even a bad/inexperienced player near invincible.

olsborg

gatekeeper13 wrote: »

I absolutely LOVE this test.

With the proc sets gone, no more "unkillable players". Looks like those people were being carried by their sets and not their skill, as they claimed. The same guys that were immortal, unkillable and with infinite resources before the test, look 70% weaker now and die relatively easy.

Also less lag. Still there but less.

I hope this test stays forever. This is how pvp should be in this game

My toughts exactly, its still lagging abit, but not as bad as before. The combat itself feels way more responsive and exciting, no more ppl with builds that are carried hard through their sets. People die. Please give us a campaign with no proccsets. I fear after this test I will go back to uninstalling eso.

phil.maricel08ub17_ESO

Are magicka classes able to hold there own a bit more? Haven't been in yet...still at work

Sun7dance

TequilaFire wrote: »

Yeah test something for 5 minutes and make a decision.
Gotta love propaganda with an agenda.

I think you didn't understand the submessage.
The duration of the test doesn't matter because players simply don't want a procc meta, therefore it should be removed either way.

emilyhyoyeon

still having bad performance for me

Faulgor

I'm lagging way more than before. Not even close.

eyesreye

Yeah, I think they should not have enabled "cross healing" for even better PvP.
I do think it's save to say that Proc sets are definitely causing extra lag, but not all.
It's time to upgrade the server Zeni... it's time...

phil.maricel08ub17_ESO

I haven't been in yet, but I would wager that those that love/carried by procs will more than likely come in and claim performance is just as bad or worse Who wants to take me up on that?

mocap

no lags so far, but... ZOS, pls, make Rapid apply only to a caster! Cmon!

TequilaFire

Sun7dance wrote: »

TequilaFire wrote: »

Yeah test something for 5 minutes and make a decision.
Gotta love propaganda with an agenda.

I think you didn't understand the submessage.
The duration of the test doesn't matter because players simply don't want a procc meta, therefore it should be removed either way.

I understand fully. But there are good and bad proc sets do you honestly think ZOS will individually remove the bad ones and not just blanket nerf?
I will miss my Bloodspawn that procs on damage, only type of proc set that I use.

Sgrug

eyesreye wrote: »

Yeah, I think they should not have enabled "cross healing" for even better PvP.
I do think it's save to say that Proc sets are definitely causing extra lag, but not all.
It's time to upgrade the server Zeni... it's time...

Cross healing was not an issue, they literally took it away later because they said they were trying to manipulate behaviors. They brought it back because so many became disappointed with the gameplay and the over gaming experience was not improved.

VaranisArano

Sun7dance wrote: »

TequilaFire wrote: »

Yeah test something for 5 minutes and make a decision.
Gotta love propaganda with an agenda.

I think you didn't understand the submessage.
The duration of the test doesn't matter because players simply don't want a procc meta, therefore it should be removed either way.

There's ways to adjust the proc meta without dropping Cyrodiil down to 20 or so sets, though. Some of those sets that don't work don't even make sense as "procs." At least, I'm certain there's a better way to code the percent reduction sets so they aren't constantly checking "does this apply?" on every action.

That being said, I'm interested to see how this all works out. I can't test for awhile due to IRL family stuff, but when I do, it'll be like going back to my "training wheels" sets for my MagDK and StamWarden. Should be fun!

Theignson

Wing wrote: »

lag still there under load

BUT

the combat and meta is a million times better.
everyone in zone is talking about how nice the combat and feel is, nothing but compliments.

would love to see how this combat performs under CP 2.0

maybe throw in a fix/ nerf to radiating regen and mass purge and we got ourselves some amazing pvp combat.

love this test even if the lag is there.

Any player can only have 1 radiating regen-- this would make it competitive.
These ballgroups are running with 6-7 regens per person

gatekeeper13

Kadraeus wrote: »

Is this actually the case? I've been saying for a while that it wasn't skill that made the players impossible to kill but it was their gear. And that's what put me off from PvP. People would always act like I was insane whenever I said it too.

Yes. Didn't believe the difference would be so big but it is what is happening right now. No unkillable player right now. PVP looks balanced and healthy.

olsborg wrote: »

My toughts exactly, its still lagging abit, but not as bad as before. The combat itself feels way more responsive and exciting, no more ppl with builds that are carried hard through their sets. People die. Please give us a campaign with no proccsets. I fear after this test I will go back to uninstalling eso.

This.

After experiencing pvp in Cyro without proc sets, without broken sets that give infinite resources and insane dmg, transforming players into unkillable god-like machines, I dont wanna go back to that monstrosity pvp was.

I want ZOS to make a separate campaign only with stat-only sets.

Zer0oo

I think it was a really bad idea to active cross-healing again on the same day they started the new test. Comparing performance will now be harder.

Nyladreas

Now I'd like to see procs gone from BGs as well.