Gonna pre-empt everyone telling you to learn light attack weaving, as though that's a real part of the game and not a bug that was ignored and eventually became a "feature".
It might be helpful to newer PvPers if someone compiled a list of the classes, explaining their general offensive and defensive playstyles in PvP (i.e., ST burst, AOE burst, tanky, squishy, etc). I know from experience that some classes can be played differently but, for the most part, the classes have a general playstyle in which they excel.
YouTube videos tend to give a patch tier list, which may not always be helpful to those who are learning.
JJMaxx1980 wrote: »I feel that I am an intelligent person. I troubleshoot computer software and hardware as a profession and I can only come to one conclusion.
PvP has a skill gap that is absolutely enormous.
Baccarooda wrote: »What helped me the most was getting to grips with all the classes, be it playing them myself or watching videos on how those classes killed/survived in pvp. For the longest time my biggest concern in pvp was coming across a MagNB, because i just didnt understand how the class killed so i would always die to them.
After deciding to play one myself and get to grips with the class i finally realised how to fight it. Long story short if you know what you are up against chances are you know the weaknesses of the class, helped me a bunch... Goodluck, you will get there in the end.
JJMaxx1980 wrote: »
Someone in my guild said I should make a bomber so I don't actually have to fight anyone I just stealth around and blow people up. Maybe that's more my style. I don't know.
There’s a ridiculous amount of spacial awareness needed to navigate 30 to 50 or more people in one fight.
Sylvermynx wrote: »The one thing about pvp that you need to understand
Sylvermynx wrote: »And I'll stop there, because I don't pvp any more, and never have in this game
JJMaxx1980 wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »First off; how old are these videos?
If youre looking at a video thats like 6 months old; it wont do you any good.
The Meta has been tanky for a while; however, the specific builds vary greatly.
What may have worked then wont work now.
Are you running Vate destro/master destro/Zaan /Crimson malacath
Or Zaan, 2h Vate and Crimson, and malacath?
Its a high health proc meta.
Aside from skill these are things to consider
I'm running New Moon/Clever Alchemist/Balorgs
JJMaxx1980 wrote: »So for some background, I am a CP 1000+ PVE player with a ton of achievements under my belt for veteran hard mode dungeons and trials. I really love challenging myself with PVE content. I have spent 10+ hours trying to kill a single boss before. (I wouldn't recommend this as it will cause you to stop being friends with your groupmates and contemplate your life decisions.) I say this to let you know that I am good at this game. I'm not a new player or a 12 year-old scrub. I'm a 30-something year old IT professional who enjoys playing MMORPG's in my spare time.
So despite my general disdain for PvP in general, mostly due to the toxicity of a certain percentage of the playerbase, I decided to attempt to try my hand at PvP during this event. I had a Warden Healer that I hadn't played in a while so I paid for a race change and after turning my cute female wood elf healer into the beefiest, baddest Nord dude Tamriel has ever seen. I named him after the God of Death and I was on my way. After a quick Google search I saw that 2H Stamina Warden is a good meta class and I would be able to find lots of juicy videos of how to play. All the gear was made or farmed, golded out with golden enchants, the works. Paid someone in Craglorn to run me through Skyreach a dozen times or so to level all my skill lines and bought a ton of skyshards and mount speed upgrades from the Crown Store. I made a thousand poisons, potions and a stack of food. It was all coming together. I took him to kill some world bosses to see how the abilities felt and finally I was ready to enter the world of PvP...
...I made a huge mistake.
My stats are the same as the videos and builds. Gear is the same, race is the same, but everyone I met in Cyro or BG's was practically unkillable while my character that was supposed to have 'great survivability' folded like a Wal-mart lawn chair. I have since spent hours seeing if it was a fluke and nothing really changed. I mean it doesn't even feel close. It doesn't feel like I'm 80-90% less than other players, it feels like I'm 10% less. It was awful. Every BG was third place and Cyro and Sewers were just as bad. My heals and shields did nothing, my attacks didn't put a dent in their health and I was dead in seconds. Bless my guild, they tried to help, they went over my sets, my skills, my stats and it didn't help.
I feel that I am an intelligent person. I troubleshoot computer software and hardware as a profession and I can only come to one conclusion.
PvP has a skill gap that is absolutely enormous. It's the only explanation and it's really disheartening. I put a ton of time and effort and actual money into building this character only to be a speed bump for the majority of players. I'm trying as hard as I can and I don't wanna get salty but I'm finding it tough. One time I ran into a templar healer who was capping a flag at Cropsford and after 20 minutes of not being able to kill him, I just left. I should be able to kill him. A giant mountain of a Nord barbarian with a giant two-handed axe should have no problem cleaving down a squishy templar healer.
I don't know what to do now. I was so excited and now I don't even want to play with him anymore. If the answer is that I need to practice for months or years to even be competent just seems so unbalanced. I can't imagine what a new player would go through if I can't even do this.
Someone in my guild said I should make a bomber so I don't actually have to fight anyone I just stealth around and blow people up. Maybe that's more my style. I don't know.
Sorry for the wall of text. Just needed to vent...
JJMaxx1980 wrote: »
PvP has a skill gap that is absolutely enormous.
It's really disheartening. I put a ton of time and effort and actual money into building this character only to be a speed bump for the majority of players.
One time I ran into a templar healer who was capping a flag at Cropsford and after 20 minutes of not being able to kill him, I just left. I should be able to kill him. A giant mountain of a Nord barbarian with a giant two-handed axe should have no problem cleaving down a squishy templar healer.
I don't know what to do now. I was so excited and now I don't even want to play with him anymore. If the answer is that I need to practice for months or years to even be competent just seems so unbalanced. I can't imagine what a new player would go through if I can't even do this.
Someone in my guild said I should make a bomber so I don't actually have to fight anyone I just stealth around and blow people up. Maybe that's more my style. I don't know.