Am I the only one or is PvP in this game somehow extremely rage inducing?

DreamsUnderStars

PVP is more rage-inducing during the pvp event, in the off-season (as it were) I kinda think it's fun.

anadandy

I just wish it wasn't so damn broken. I took a buddy into BG the other day for the event - and we ended up a team of two against two teams of four. We ended up just staying at our spawn point and emoting until the timer ran out. The next match we were 3v4v4. It was a really awesome intro to BG for a new player.

Pinesy

I find that playing PvP is 100x more enjoyable with a friend. I run a support while he pew pew's. However, sometimes it seems matchmaking is broken. Sometimes we would be the only two on our team, and it'd be 2v4v4. The other teams would see this, and work together vs us... really sportsmanlike behavior... anyways, but having that friend to goof around with makes it 100x better.

Vlad9425

Gatefan2004 wrote: »

I don’t like PVP but I decided to try to do it for the event tickets. Less than 5 seconds after exiting the keep I was dead. There was a group of at least a dozen players just surrounding the door and immediately killing anyone who came through. Not going to participate in the event this year. Not worth being constantly ticked off while playing.

So why did you exit the keep if you knew there was a dozen enemy players outside instead of staying in the safety of the keep and attacking them from range?

SidraWillowsky

Oh, it makes me apoplectic sometimes. Perhaps that's too extreme a reaction (it is) but it frustrates me to no end that there's a real person sitting behind their computer, thinking it's fun to camp the sewer bases and pick off people as they try to get by. And ofc we're in the middle of the god-awful Crimson/proc set/malacath meta, so everyone and their mom is stupid tanky whole able to output decent damage basically by doing nothing.

Going with a group definitely helps, as others mentioned. Bonus points if it's a well-coordinated group than can deny some of the more annoying players their rock-humping fun by leaving them alone when they try that crap.

L_Nici

The most enraging thing in PvP for me is to see people win not because they are good, but because they cheese the crap out of their 3 Proc+Malacath Setups. None of these people can really play PvP, they just get carried by their sets, while spamming 1 skill.

Girl_Number8

Nyladreas wrote: »

Took a long break from the game playing other MMOs. Today a friend asked me to do a couple duo BGs so I fired up ESO again and my dear God... It's almost unbearable.

Me normally a calm, balanced, friendly person turned into a raging monster of hatred within the first 30 minutes. Almost to the point where I was about to throw my mouse out the window....

What in the hell is wrong with this game that it makes me rage so bad? I've been playing GW2 for awhile and PvP there does not even remotely create these feelings in me. Also I noticed my breath and heart rate skyrocketed as if I ran a marathon. Is it the fast pacing or what o.O

Am I the only one?

It is just a game Cx. It is supposed to be fun.

If you find yourself getting that upset, then that part of the game is not healthy for you.

Also, you might want to maybe talk to someone to see why you are having such a reaction to a video game.

Play what you have fun doing, simple.

Vorpan

Gatefan2004 wrote: »

I don’t like PVP but I decided to try to do it for the event tickets. Less than 5 seconds after exiting the keep I was dead. There was a group of at least a dozen players just surrounding the door and immediately killing anyone who came through. Not going to participate in the event this year. Not worth being constantly ticked off while playing.

You don't have to do the pvp quests to get tickets. Just go to one of the towns owned by your alliance and do one there. Most of them take less than a minute.

Viewsfrom6ix

Uvi_AUT wrote: »

Its the imbalance and the missing Rock Paper Scissors.

One player, no matter how skilled and geared, should never be able to survive the Assault of 4+ other players. Never, ever.

@Uvi_AUT

Hard disagree here. Players should be rewarded with the amount of time and effort they spent in getting better.

A high skill gap is needed for PvP or else everyone can get good with little effort. This is what makes PvP so fun. The progression doesn't stop when you have the best gear and know basic mechanics.

If you take a pro MMA fighter and put him to fight against 4 high school students. Who do you think will win?

This is also common in other PvP games. For example, CSGO or Dota 2, a professional player can comfortably beat 4 amateurs. There are youtube videos on it.

DewiMorgan

For me, the rage comes from Crowd Control attacks.

Crowd Control sorely affects a PvE-er's experience of Imperial City and Cyrodiil during events. Without CC, PvP would have scope for builds based on speed+stealth, and even Battlegrounds would almost be a pleasant challenge. As it is, there's no advantage for such builds in PvP because everyone has a hobble attack to nerf the speed. My experience with spells that claim to prevent hobbles is, they simply don't work; and break free and dodge-roll also either don't work, or take so long to animate that you're dead before you're free of the hobble. And which one you're meant to use on each attack seems largely random.

The CC experience is akin to being hit by a lag spike in the middle of combat; it's something you can do nothing about, completely out of your control, and there's [Snip] you can do about it. If lag enrages you, so will CC.

CC seems to be an MMO perversion: it simply doesn't exist in the same way in most other PvP games like FPS', so to someone used to moving fluidly around a level in PvP games, they suck all the fun out of it. There's none of the "escape and loop round to turn the tables" gameplay. There's no tactics, no strategy. Just "camp the noobs, hit them with crowd control if they try to get away, and mop them up for easy points, lulzor."

And that's just not an experience that I'm ever going to be interested in being on the *** side of, so I avoid PvP like the plague.

[Edit to remove profanity]

Gatefan2004

Vlad9425 wrote: »

Gatefan2004 wrote: »

I don’t like PVP but I decided to try to do it for the event tickets. Less than 5 seconds after exiting the keep I was dead. There was a group of at least a dozen players just surrounding the door and immediately killing anyone who came through. Not going to participate in the event this year. Not worth being constantly ticked off while playing.

So why did you exit the keep if you knew there was a dozen enemy players outside instead of staying in the safety of the keep and attacking them from range?

I was trying to do a scouting quest. I traveled via the shrine to a keep my faction controlled that was closest to the quest. I was inside a building so there was no way to know there was a dozen enemy players outside the door. Maybe I’m misidentifying what building it was. All I know for sure is I couldn’t see through the walls or door to know there was players on the other side.

ArchonLucien

I could deal with most of the Meta-mancers if i could be allowed to play the game for 10 minutes without getting 999+ ping just because a single enemy player appears on screen. This event is going to burn me out simply due to how destructive the lag and server connection issues screw up the gameplay for me.

itscompton

Nyladreas wrote: »

StarOfElyon wrote: »

Nyladreas wrote: »

Took a long break from the game playing other MMOs. Today a friend asked me to do a couple duo BGs so I fired up ESO again and my dear God... It's almost unbearable.

Me normally a calm, balanced, friendly person turned into a raging monster of hatred within the first 30 minutes. Almost to the point where I was about to throw my mouse out the window....

What in the hell is wrong with this game that it makes me rage so bad? I've been playing GW2 for awhile and PvP there does not even remotely create these feelings in me. Also I noticed my breath and heart rate skyrocketed as if I ran a marathon. Is it the fast pacing or what o.O

Am I the only one?

It can be. Cloaking gankers. Proc builds. It can feel really unfair to players who want to just square up and fight. Let the most skilled win. But too often I'm dealing with people whose whole play style is based on bad mechanics. A DK or Warden can lock you down and put two proc beams on you while they hold block. You can't bash the procs. You can't run out of range of the procs fast enough. You can't deal with people sniping from meters away while you're trying to fight someone else. You can't deal with broken health stacking builds that still hit like glass canons. It's cheese or be cheesed down. Really makes one not want to play if those are the options.

The way you just described that example is kind of how I feel actually... I can't deal with so many things that I have 0 control over regardless of how well I know the game or how long I've played. It's truly a mess as you call it.

This is why I play Cyro and not BG's. A couple of proc wearing tanks can ruin the fun of a whole round BG's but in Cyro you can either get the numbers to overwhelm them or go find a fight that's less aggravating.
Of course I still run into many of the situations described and while I don't enjoy it I've come to a place where I just accept cheese is possible and sometimes I'm going to get killed by people taking advantage of broken mechanics. I might get mad for a moment but I don't let the frustration build, it is what it is.
I play for those wild 10v10, 20v20, 30v30 fights where my knowledge and skill count and I can run wild taking people out while using the chaos as cover to stay alive.

Nyladreas

itscompton wrote: »

Nyladreas wrote: »

StarOfElyon wrote: »

Nyladreas wrote: »

Took a long break from the game playing other MMOs. Today a friend asked me to do a couple duo BGs so I fired up ESO again and my dear God... It's almost unbearable.

Me normally a calm, balanced, friendly person turned into a raging monster of hatred within the first 30 minutes. Almost to the point where I was about to throw my mouse out the window....

What in the hell is wrong with this game that it makes me rage so bad? I've been playing GW2 for awhile and PvP there does not even remotely create these feelings in me. Also I noticed my breath and heart rate skyrocketed as if I ran a marathon. Is it the fast pacing or what o.O

Am I the only one?

It can be. Cloaking gankers. Proc builds. It can feel really unfair to players who want to just square up and fight. Let the most skilled win. But too often I'm dealing with people whose whole play style is based on bad mechanics. A DK or Warden can lock you down and put two proc beams on you while they hold block. You can't bash the procs. You can't run out of range of the procs fast enough. You can't deal with people sniping from meters away while you're trying to fight someone else. You can't deal with broken health stacking builds that still hit like glass canons. It's cheese or be cheesed down. Really makes one not want to play if those are the options.

The way you just described that example is kind of how I feel actually... I can't deal with so many things that I have 0 control over regardless of how well I know the game or how long I've played. It's truly a mess as you call it.

This is why I play Cyro and not BG's. A couple of proc wearing tanks can ruin the fun of a whole round BG's but in Cyro you can either get the numbers to overwhelm them or go find a fight that's less aggravating.
Of course I still run into many of the situations described and while I don't enjoy it I've come to a place where I just accept cheese is possible and sometimes I'm going to get killed by people taking advantage of broken mechanics. I might get mad for a moment but I don't let the frustration build, it is what it is.
I play for those wild 10v10, 20v20, 30v30 fights where my knowledge and skill count and I can run wild taking people out while using the chaos as cover to stay alive.

How does one really get involved in PvP in Cyto? Yeah I know... Funny question from a guy who's played the game for 6 years, but seriously, how?

I've only been in cyro a couple times, never found a group or a good fight. If anything it was always me running in a giant zerg of people and dying or trying to join our zerg that just abandoned me.

Soulshine

Gatefan2004 wrote: »

Vlad9425 wrote: »

Gatefan2004 wrote: »

I don’t like PVP but I decided to try to do it for the event tickets. Less than 5 seconds after exiting the keep I was dead. There was a group of at least a dozen players just surrounding the door and immediately killing anyone who came through. Not going to participate in the event this year. Not worth being constantly ticked off while playing.

So why did you exit the keep if you knew there was a dozen enemy players outside instead of staying in the safety of the keep and attacking them from range?

I was trying to do a scouting quest. I traveled via the shrine to a keep my faction controlled that was closest to the quest. I was inside a building so there was no way to know there was a dozen enemy players outside the door. Maybe I’m misidentifying what building it was. All I know for sure is I couldn’t see through the walls or door to know there was players on the other side.

Make sure next time you are out there that you always look at the map before going anywhere. Conditions can change within less than a minute sometimes, so a keep that you safely traveled to a moment before can be then under siege by the time you spawn inside and move two paces. It happens often. Also good to exit from the back side doors and never the front if you are planning to just go do your own thing and have no intention to support a defense.