Am I the only one or is PvP in this game somehow extremely rage inducing?

Soulshine

My comfort zone has always been PvE in this game, and group content at that. I main heal and love trials.

Doing battlegrounds in particular, which I do only for the AP, my experience is always the same - the second the other teams see me healing I am then instantly ganked by five players at a time and proc'ed into Oblivion thereafter on every single round the second my feet hit the ground. Meh. I expect it so it's no surprise.

The only time that does not impact me is when I throw on a heavy armour proc set of my own, on my Necro healer in particular, and dish it out back to them -- which means they usually cannot kill me within 5 secs and give up, something which is always a bit amusing to me.

Does it upset me when I do die? No because I expect it. If your expectations are that you won't die in PvP or that you will always be the winner, I am fairly certain that is why you end up raging.

That said, the proc conditions which dictate most of the outcomes of the fights now do need some adjustment since they clearly do skew the way play unfolds.

Nyladreas

Jurand80 wrote: »

Nyladreas wrote: »

Took a long break from the game playing other MMOs. Today a friend asked me to do a couple duo BGs so I fired up ESO again and my dear God... It's almost unbearable.

Me normally a calm, balanced, friendly person turned into a raging monster of hatred within the first 30 minutes. Almost to the point where I was about to throw my mouse out the window....

What in the hell is wrong with this game that it makes me rage so bad? I've been playing GW2 for awhile and PvP there does not even remotely create these feelings in me. Also I noticed my breath and heart rate skyrocketed as if I ran a marathon. Is it the fast pacing or what o.O

Am I the only one?

try starcraft (f2p). pvp in that game will destroy you if there is no adrenaline then you're not rly playing pvp.

Actually I always loved StarCraft. Never felt even a slight bit of anger playing that game. Annoyance? Yes. Disappointment? Yes. Rage? Never. As I originally stated... I probably felt this much anger when I was a kid playing platformers.

THEDKEXPERIENCE

I have something like 96 games on my Xbox cloud. Of all of the ones with PVP ESO is one of the least rage inducing.

Go play a game of 2K basketball against someone who knows how to cheese and get back to me.

Aptonoth

Nyladreas wrote: »

Took a long break from the game playing other MMOs. Today a friend asked me to do a couple duo BGs so I fired up ESO again and my dear God... It's almost unbearable.

Me normally a calm, balanced, friendly person turned into a raging monster of hatred within the first 30 minutes. Almost to the point where I was about to throw my mouse out the window....

What in the hell is wrong with this game that it makes me rage so bad? I've been playing GW2 for awhile and PvP there does not even remotely create these feelings in me. Also I noticed my breath and heart rate skyrocketed as if I ran a marathon. Is it the fast pacing or what o.O

Am I the only one?

I know gw1 did pvp great. Its the only thing the gw games do better than their competitors.

Starlight_Knight

Well said - You're not the only one mate. ESO has a some serriously fustrating mechanics. it has one of the quickest ttk ( time to kill ) of any mmo i know of.

So many infuriating buggy mechanics reguards to CC's.
Input delays - proc sets gallore. heal imballences. the list goes on..

Yes its sucks at times, you're not alone in going nuts.

geonsocal

fortnite triggers me way worse than eso, it's not even close...

I remember getting "hog-tied", dragged around on the ground, than stabbed to death in red dead redemption 2...

yeah, eso pvp is a pretty friendly place...

driosketch

It's posible to burn out on PvP. I take months long breaks from it, but it's always a blast when I come back. I usually avoid much of the lag because I play late on US west coast, though it's still there. High burst gank nightblades can be annoying, especially when you don't wear full heavy, but if I can't counter them, the situation is best handled by going literally anywhere else on the map.

No, the worst part of pvp is player toxicity. And I don't mean hate whispers, I mean how your allies can get, especially when losing. That's when it stops being fun, and that's why I take my break until something pulls me back in.

Linaleah

it used to be a lot more for me. now I'm just resigned to it. I do my thing and leave. if I get killed a bunch of times while doing it, I take a deep breath and either switch zones/campaigns where i'm doing it, or just deal with getting killed and leave for the day. with battlegrounds, I make sure that the only quest I get is the one where you need 1k medals. and then I just kinda go with the flow. I do my best, but I'm not sweating a loss. as long as I get my 1k points... I'm good (and as long as you participate to the best of your abilities, 1k in a single battleground is pretty much guaranteed)

Miszou

One of the most guaranteed ways to make any player rage, is to take control of their character away from them, then kill them while they cannot respond.

And PvP is 100% all about stuns, roots, snares etc.

I hate it with the passion of a thousand burning suns. I honestly do not care if someone (most people actually) is better than me, but locking me down and destroying me when I am unable to respond is not any demonstration of "skill" at all.

On that note, I don't mind a good ol' fashioned Quake deathmatch occasionally (even though I still lose more often than not) , because it doesn't have stunlock cheese and everyone is on the same level playing field with regards to gear etc. Getting beaten in a fair fight is one thing - getting beaten because you can't fight back is just infuriating.

If anyone really cared about "fixing" PvP, the first thing to do would be to remove all roots, stuns, snares and related skills that remove or disable control of another players character.

Starlight_Knight

Miszou wrote: »

One of the most guaranteed ways to make any player rage, is to take control of their character away from them, then kill them while they cannot respond.

And PvP is 100% all about stuns, roots, snares etc.

I hate it with the passion of a thousand burning suns. I honestly do not care if someone (most people actually) is better than me, but locking me down and destroying me when I am unable to respond is not any demonstration of "skill" at all.

On that note, I don't mind a good ol' fashioned Quake deathmatch occasionally (even though I still lose more often than not) , because it doesn't have stunlock cheese and everyone is on the same level playing field with regards to gear etc. Getting beaten in a fair fight is one thing - getting beaten because you can't fight back is just infuriating.

If anyone really cared about "fixing" PvP, the first thing to do would be to remove all roots, stuns, snares and related skills that remove or disable control of another players character.

This is also my biggest gripe with eso pvp. i have 2 grand overlords and all i ever see is people spamming cc's even in groups when you're being zerged down its just people spamming bombard or foselized over and over again with no ramping costs for them.
and most CC's are *** and you cant break them and when you do you have to break it twice just to be cc'd again.
6 seconds of cc immunity and 3 seconds to break one. you do the math.
im just a full time CC breaking machine. and that leaves me 3 seconds to line up burst and deliver my own cc.

2 things that are the most dumb in this game, CC spaming with no repercussions and stuck in combat mechanics.

mickeyx

How PvP be like in this game if you are not running FOTM builds copy pasta from youtube.

"Enters PVP...

Proc..proc.proc..death"

The end.

volkeswagon

You are absolutely right. I find pvp brings out the worst in people. People for some reason enjoy harassing other players. When you're just trying to do a quest or dig up treasure there are people who just hunt you down and kill you thus making life more difficult. Worse is when large groups go after solo players. I realize that's the point of pvp but having an event wrapped around the idea isn't fair to those who aren't wired for pvp. What about a pve server for the events

UGotBenched91

Gatefan2004 wrote: »

I don’t like PVP but I decided to try to do it for the event tickets. Less than 5 seconds after exiting the keep I was dead. There was a group of at least a dozen players just surrounding the door and immediately killing anyone who came through. Not going to participate in the event this year. Not worth being constantly ticked off while playing.

I’d recommend doing Bg’s. Also, PvP takes time to learn just like pve. If you see a door being camped don’t go through it use a different exit.

UGotBenched91

Soulshine wrote: »

My comfort zone has always been PvE in this game, and group content at that. I main heal and love trials.

Doing battlegrounds in particular, which I do only for the AP, my experience is always the same - the second the other teams see me healing I am then instantly ganked by five players at a time and proc'ed into Oblivion thereafter on every single round the second my feet hit the ground. Meh. I expect it so it's no surprise.

The only time that does not impact me is when I throw on a heavy armour proc set of my own, on my Necro healer in particular, and dish it out back to them -- which means they usually cannot kill me within 5 secs and give up, something which is always a bit amusing to me.

Does it upset me when I do die? No because I expect it. If your expectations are that you won't die in PvP or that you will always be the winner, I am fairly certain that is why you end up raging.

That said, the proc conditions which dictate most of the outcomes of the fights now do need some adjustment since they clearly do skew the way play unfolds.

Thank you! Glad to see someone gets that learning PvP takes time and you can’t just enter in it geared for pve and slaughter people.

volkeswagon

PVP takes certain builds and skills that differ from pve. It's a different animal which Is why having an event around it is lopsided. It's like sending a group of kindergarten teachers off to fight in a war. Unless of coarse they make pve servers for these events.

WacArnold

Are you playing magblade?

SickleCider

The only thing that really triggers me is that a templar can hit me with five attacks before I can even pick myself up off the ground. But at least it's not a proc.

Goregrinder

That's how all PVP is in any game that contains PVP. But the reward is when you get good enough to caused your opponents to go into a fit of rage when you constantly kill them. Because really your biggest enemy when it comes to PVP isn't your targets, it's yourself.

Solariken

It's feast or famine. Some days I feel it's the best time ever. Other days I'm just getting shanked and ganked at every turn - hard to have fun when my health bar gets hundy-zeroed by P2W meta builds or 5x snipes landing at one time or skills that just won't go off.

Synthwavius

Usually most competitive PVP games induce rage as you progress and take it seriously. At least in my case. That's why I never go into PVP in ESO because it's my chill game and knowing about the lag issues I really don't want another game that makes me wishing bad things to all laggers of the world.

Vanya

Because it alters your game-play and a habit in PVE solo you almost never die and have full control of your actions you know exactly what to do and fighting generic NPC predictable is not same as engaging in completely messed confilct with extreme unblance,lag or potentionally toxic chat too.

Failure,defeat causes sudden frustration,builds annoyance, annoyance turns to anger and anger tiurns to rage varies up for individual,though game is not something you should do that

its taking it too far.

I would be upset if i lose something or i i m unable to log in for days {happened} or being scammed tricked etc i would be extremely frustrating never fuming or wanting to the point of breaking my keyboard

last time i was "angry" when i wasted 15 USD ending with almost useless rewards in crown crates

but to rage for being killed by pixels? No lol.

Let them rage meanwhile i will enjoy story,read 100 lore books and explore every corner of world

Udrath

Try giving a magblade bomber a run in pvp. It’s good fun and you get the rush without the rage

It’s not always about looking for groups standing still. The real fun is finding a big blob group in the middle of a fight and turning the tide

amertuim

Finally, You faced your inner DEMON! Congratulation
GO KILL 'EM ALLLLLLLL

Narvuntien

I am super chill in PVP.

The Cryodil is fundamentally unfair and imbalanced. You just have to accept that and work on the larger game of taking and protecting keeps. And sometimes you have to accept you can't win and retreat.

Cirantille

I never raged over PvP, dying, losing, etc all part of the zone

Besides, it is just a video game, so why care and allow it to get under your skin so much?

CycnusX1TheGreat

Waited for an hour to get in. Got to a couple of keep fights and disconnected then thrown out and showing me 150 in queue. Logged out.

OldManJim

I really hate PvP and I’m only doing the event to keep up with tickets.

Yesterday there was a group of AD in stealth, camping one of the daily quest points, ganking people doing quests. Today there’s a group of AD camping in stealth outside the EP sewer entrance, ganking all who return. I don’t see how that’s fair or fun. They’re just getting off on picking the low hanging fruit.

It really does seem to bring out the inner *** in people.

Minyassa

It is itneresting to see what things people list as making them rage. I thought I hated PvP more than almost everyone else but what bothers me is rude people doing rude people things. The lack of control or mechanics or difference in the way things work can be jarring but it never makes me mad. However, I am still *constantly* raging in PvP areas because after several years of having to participate in PvP events or miss out on tickets or collecting skyshards or doing other achievements, going into PvP areas multiple times daily for however many days the event lasts, I have only *not* run into rude people twice. Every other time it's teabagging, hate whispers for dying too fast, hate whispers for not being specced right, hate whispers for fishing, people camping doors, etc. If people would just play the dang game and quit taking out their tantrums on other players I'd actually *love* PvP.

Uvi_AUT

Its the imbalance and the missing Rock Paper Scissors.

One player, no matter how skilled and geared, should never be able to survive the Assault of 4+ other players. Never, ever.

Jeffrey530

Versispellis wrote: »

The only thing that really triggers me is that a templar can hit me with five attacks before I can even pick myself up off the ground. But at least it's not a proc.

Templar jabs arent even that bad if you ask me. What really triggers me is the dudes with vh staff and zaan just kills me while they are semi afk