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1vX - How? (PvP)
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mairwen85✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Artorias24 wrote: »Grianasteri wrote: »oXI_Viper_IXo wrote: »
The fact that you refer to using LoS as an exploit is very telling as to what type of player you are.
Perhaps you could enlighten me as to what type of player I am? Id genuinely be interested to know?
Of course its an exploit, by its very definition the 1vXer is exploiting a game mechanics to their advantage, bravo them, its part of the game. Just as I exploit a game mechanics to hit like a truck from stealth with snipe, bravo me, its part of the game... doesnt stop people
about it does it.
You need to learn the meaning of exploit man.
Using game mechanics to your Advantage is not an exploit.
Using the game or breaking the game in a way that is not intented. Thats an exploit. For example the exploit where you could get permanently the cowards gear buff without needing to sprint or wearing that Setup.
I think you are both right.
Exploit can legitimately be used to describe both situations.
Exploit is a cheat. Using LOS is working as intended.
'Exploit' can mean to take advantage of or misuse something, but can also mean 'leverage', or to utilise to the fullest extent.
https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/exploit
It has both positive and negative connotations depending on how it's used in a sentence. Its all about the context
in MMO context exploiting means cheating which can lead to getting banned.
In the context of the English language it means as I already explained.Using LOS is not a bug and not a cheat engine. It is gameplay mechanics, trees,rocks towers, pillars etc all are built for a reason in cyrodiil.
Yes, they do. So we should exploit them to our advantage
Edited by mairwen85 on October 9, 2020 6:25PM1 -
Sorbin✭✭✭✭Grianasteri wrote: »StaticWave wrote: »Grianasteri wrote: »StaticWave wrote: »Yea imagine hiding in stealth for the majority of the fight and spam cloak when you get pressured. That's very fun gameplay indeed
Im sensing that you dont like being bow ganked. Thats fine, you do you... and I'll keep ganking you, cos its fun
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You can try. I'll watch you die to your own toxic barrage with shield ult
People I gank are generally dead before I need any ulti ;-)
I have no idea who you are, but I can promise you, you won't gank Static alone, and probably not in most Xv1 situations either. There's a reason the term "[snip]" exists.
[Edited for Rude and Insulting comments]Edited by Psiion on October 9, 2020 10:46PM2 -
JayKwellen✭✭✭✭✭gatekeeper13 wrote: »alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »i agree most bow ganks run when they see you or cloak and will never have a fair fight
Actually, that's what EVERY high lvl player I ve fought in Cyro does. Every single one of them I ve fought and had their health dropped to e.g 20%, they started running around trees, rocks, walls, going up-down stairs etc
Really though what do expect them to do? Just stand there while in execute range and let you kill them?2 -
Firstmep✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭JayKwellen wrote: »gatekeeper13 wrote: »alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »i agree most bow ganks run when they see you or cloak and will never have a fair fight
Actually, that's what EVERY high lvl player I ve fought in Cyro does. Every single one of them I ve fought and had their health dropped to e.g 20%, they started running around trees, rocks, walls, going up-down stairs etc
Really though what do expect them to do? Just stand there while in execute range and let you kill them?
How dare you not just stand there and get killed outnumbered.
To think some people actually fight back when faced with multiple opponents.
The atrocity!2 -
StaticWave✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Grianasteri wrote: »StaticWave wrote: »Grianasteri wrote: »StaticWave wrote: »Yea imagine hiding in stealth for the majority of the fight and spam cloak when you get pressured. That's very fun gameplay indeed
Im sensing that you dont like being bow ganked. Thats fine, you do you... and I'll keep ganking you, cos its fun
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You can try. I'll watch you die to your own toxic barrage with shield ult
People I gank are generally dead before I need any ulti ;-)
Oh yea I really really hope you kill me quick, cause i would hate to edit out 2 minutes of chasing a cloaking stamblade in my 1vx video
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StackonClown✭✭✭✭✭Artorias24 wrote: »The idea of 1 vs X is very simple:
1) You never fight with those, who play beter than you.
2) You look for good players in enemy group, and run from them.
Wait when some new players try to strike you and try to one shot them. Always run from good players and kill weak first.
Than try to kill good one 1 on 1, or run, untill friends come to help to outnumber him.
1 vs X is not that 1 kill X good fighters.
In reality it is impossible to fight against 2 good players if you are alone.
3) So we have 1 - 2 good players and 3-4 weak as example.
There are skills that heal more or strike more if they hit a lot of targets, you use them. So you charge your heal and damage with this 4 weak players, and always run.
Weak players will try to controll you, so it will be hard for good one make one shot combo, they can not stun you, when they need it.
4) Newer fight in field, always run near some stone, wall, tree 🎄 and etc.
About sets:
You get 1 protective set, that heals or regens you, and 1 proc set, that makes your attack do a lot of dps in small window.
It is hard to kill you, because you are fat, you regen when you run.
And when your dps window is ready, you try to kill enemy with ultimate as examle in this small window. Than run again.
I am not 1 vs X
Just as example, my build heals 4 k hp per second.
I do not use one shot combo, but i can do 5-7 k dps in standing target.
So if it will be 2 like me, we kill enemy in 2 - 3seconds (1 dethink = dead) It is not possible to fight 2 players like that
If you run, we can not do dps, so you heal more than we dps.
If you run near some stone asexample, we get lugs - so we can not hit you.
We try to use attack, server or ping is not perfect, so attack do not land, you run, we can not hit, becouse skills do not work. You get full HP, and try to one shot us.
If you do it is ok.
If you do not, run again.
Some builds is impossible to kill 1 on 1, so you run, untill you outnumber them
A lot of players will not run near stone (they know how, but they will not).
So they choose to die, not run vs X isabout to kill new players, not some good group.
The only one 1 vs X that can kill group is Mana bomber.
They use low level players to acamulate dps.
As example:
Group 6 players, 2 are good and 4 with low level.
You use sets that give you dps in small window as example:
Mechanikal Accuty, balorgh, some + to crit or dps and vicious death set.
You are in full dps mode and buffs.
In 5 seconds all your attacks are crits and do 1,5 dps of base.
Mana bomb that will hit 1 player in normal condition will do:
2 k damage, with all buffs and proc sets active 4 k damage.
With 5 more people 8 k damage.
You use it + ultimate (damage+ stun)+ some hard hitting strike.
24 k dps in me. But a lot of players are not as tanky.
And for them it will be 30 k as example.
If he die near me he deals me damage as example 5k. If 2 low level players die, 10 k dps from them will kill me.
So all 6 peoples are dead.
Low level players like to stuck on players, that they think are strong.
It makes them feel save.
So you kill the stronger one with them
The setslike this are: Azur blight, Vicious death, Dragonstar 2 handed and etc.
Kinda feels you hate players that 1vX.
I do not hate 1 vs X.
I really like bombers as example.
But i really do not like to run 30 minutes by one dude. If i will not be outnumbered I even may be kill him, but it is really not funny for me.
I see no honor in play like this.
A lot of 1 vs X is just like: i will run from you untill you go away, i only will try to kill low level players. If i see good one, i will run away for years.
I like when 2 big groups fight each other. When you do not run. Kill or be killed.
Protect some thing. I really do not like to run
I better die 20 times but kill some one with honor, then run and kill players with low level.
I even do not attack first those who are weaker than me. I feel my self uncomfortable if i do
best.description.ever of 1vx:
A lot of All 1 vs X is just like: i will run from you untill you go away, i only will try to kill low level players. If i see good one, i will run away for years.
pls close this thread - discussion closed lol /sarc2 -
gatekeeper13✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭JayKwellen wrote: »Really though what do expect them to do? Just stand there while in execute range and let you kill them?
When you 1v1 someone, you put your skills against his. If the other guy is close to defeating you, stay and die. Dont start running away and hiding behind walls to satisfy your ego that you were not defeated. It's ridiculous.
Imagine boxers start running away from opponents and around the ring if they are close to getting KOed.How dare you not just stand there and get killed outnumbered.
To think some people actually fight back when faced with multiple opponents.
The atrocity!
I am talking about 1v1. Read other people's comments first before replying to them.1 -
Deathlord92✭✭✭✭✭
✭I have had lots of successful 1vxs on my stamblade main, magblade, stam dk. This patch i have been maining magblade had few 1vxs hard to play but fun I’m wearing 5 heavy it’s what a lot of players are doing or wearing tanky sets that makes medium builds or light tanky.0 -
Skander✭✭✭✭✭
✭You can't anymore. The devs said soI meme, but my memes are so truthful they hurt
-Elder Nightblades Online
Want competitive pvp while being outnumbered? Tough luck, the devs clearly said you have to die in those situations0 -
StaticWave✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭StackonClown wrote: »Artorias24 wrote: »The idea of 1 vs X is very simple:
1) You never fight with those, who play beter than you.
2) You look for good players in enemy group, and run from them.
Wait when some new players try to strike you and try to one shot them. Always run from good players and kill weak first.
Than try to kill good one 1 on 1, or run, untill friends come to help to outnumber him.
1 vs X is not that 1 kill X good fighters.
In reality it is impossible to fight against 2 good players if you are alone.
3) So we have 1 - 2 good players and 3-4 weak as example.
There are skills that heal more or strike more if they hit a lot of targets, you use them. So you charge your heal and damage with this 4 weak players, and always run.
Weak players will try to controll you, so it will be hard for good one make one shot combo, they can not stun you, when they need it.
4) Newer fight in field, always run near some stone, wall, tree 🎄 and etc.
About sets:
You get 1 protective set, that heals or regens you, and 1 proc set, that makes your attack do a lot of dps in small window.
It is hard to kill you, because you are fat, you regen when you run.
And when your dps window is ready, you try to kill enemy with ultimate as examle in this small window. Than run again.
I am not 1 vs X
Just as example, my build heals 4 k hp per second.
I do not use one shot combo, but i can do 5-7 k dps in standing target.
So if it will be 2 like me, we kill enemy in 2 - 3seconds (1 dethink = dead) It is not possible to fight 2 players like that
If you run, we can not do dps, so you heal more than we dps.
If you run near some stone asexample, we get lugs - so we can not hit you.
We try to use attack, server or ping is not perfect, so attack do not land, you run, we can not hit, becouse skills do not work. You get full HP, and try to one shot us.
If you do it is ok.
If you do not, run again.
Some builds is impossible to kill 1 on 1, so you run, untill you outnumber them
A lot of players will not run near stone (they know how, but they will not).
So they choose to die, not run vs X isabout to kill new players, not some good group.
The only one 1 vs X that can kill group is Mana bomber.
They use low level players to acamulate dps.
As example:
Group 6 players, 2 are good and 4 with low level.
You use sets that give you dps in small window as example:
Mechanikal Accuty, balorgh, some + to crit or dps and vicious death set.
You are in full dps mode and buffs.
In 5 seconds all your attacks are crits and do 1,5 dps of base.
Mana bomb that will hit 1 player in normal condition will do:
2 k damage, with all buffs and proc sets active 4 k damage.
With 5 more people 8 k damage.
You use it + ultimate (damage+ stun)+ some hard hitting strike.
24 k dps in me. But a lot of players are not as tanky.
And for them it will be 30 k as example.
If he die near me he deals me damage as example 5k. If 2 low level players die, 10 k dps from them will kill me.
So all 6 peoples are dead.
Low level players like to stuck on players, that they think are strong.
It makes them feel save.
So you kill the stronger one with them
The setslike this are: Azur blight, Vicious death, Dragonstar 2 handed and etc.
Kinda feels you hate players that 1vX.
I do not hate 1 vs X.
I really like bombers as example.
But i really do not like to run 30 minutes by one dude. If i will not be outnumbered I even may be kill him, but it is really not funny for me.
I see no honor in play like this.
A lot of 1 vs X is just like: i will run from you untill you go away, i only will try to kill low level players. If i see good one, i will run away for years.
I like when 2 big groups fight each other. When you do not run. Kill or be killed.
Protect some thing. I really do not like to run
I better die 20 times but kill some one with honor, then run and kill players with low level.
I even do not attack first those who are weaker than me. I feel my self uncomfortable if i do
best.description.ever of 1vx:
A lot of All 1 vs X is just like: i will run from you untill you go away, i only will try to kill low level players. If i see good one, i will run away for years.
pls close this thread - discussion closed lol /sarc
1/ The statement above can't be any further from the truth. There is a hidden etiquette among good pvpers, where if you see someone who's equally skilled as you, you leave them alone. Good pvpers only chase down other good pvpers if they have personal beef or just didn't know who they are. Bad players will relentlessly chase down anyone.
2/ Bad players =/= low level players. There are many max cp bad players who reached Grand Overlord through zerging. Watch some 1vX videos and you will see plenty of this example.
3/ 1vXers don't "run" because they can't fight "good players". They run to find line of sight and regain control of the fight by thinning out the herd. You can't control how many people come to the fight, but you can control how many people you're able to fight by line of sighting. If there are 10 EPs heading my way I'm not going to sit in plain sight and eat dmg from all 10 EPs, that would be suicide. I'm going to find line of sight and break the group up to a more manageable number. It's a valid tactic in many games, not just eso.Edited by StaticWave on October 10, 2020 12:04PM1 -
relentless_turnip✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭gatekeeper13 wrote: »JayKwellen wrote: »Really though what do expect them to do? Just stand there while in execute range and let you kill them?
When you 1v1 someone, you put your skills against his. If the other guy is close to defeating you, stay and die. Dont start running away and hiding behind walls to satisfy your ego that you were not defeated. It's ridiculous.
Imagine boxers start running away from opponents and around the ring if they are close to getting KOed.How dare you not just stand there and get killed outnumbered.
To think some people actually fight back when faced with multiple opponents.
The atrocity!
I am talking about 1v1. Read other people's comments first before replying to them.
Yeah but not everyone builds to be a boxer... Why shouldn't you turn a fight in your favour.
If I am low health of course I'm not going to stop fighting, that includes avoiding your finishing blow...
This is an ignorant opinion IMO...2 -
hakan✭✭✭✭✭gatekeeper13 wrote: »JayKwellen wrote: »Really though what do expect them to do? Just stand there while in execute range and let you kill them?
When you 1v1 someone, you put your skills against his. If the other guy is close to defeating you, stay and die. Dont start running away and hiding behind walls to satisfy your ego that you were not defeated. It's ridiculous.
Imagine boxers start running away from opponents and around the ring if they are close to getting KOed.
with this logic people can complain about everything. are you serious dude?
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gatekeeper13✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭relentless_turnip wrote: »Yeah but not everyone builds to be a boxer... Why shouldn't you turn a fight in your favour.
If I am low health of course I'm not going to stop fighting, that includes avoiding your finishing blow...
This is an ignorant opinion IMO...
Turn the fight in your favor by using your skill. Not by hiding behind walls, rocks and climbing stairs. Otherwise you are just fooling yourself.gatekeeper13 wrote: »JayKwellen wrote: »Really though what do expect them to do? Just stand there while in execute range and let you kill them?
When you 1v1 someone, you put your skills against his. If the other guy is close to defeating you, stay and die. Dont start running away and hiding behind walls to satisfy your ego that you were not defeated. It's ridiculous.
Imagine boxers start running away from opponents and around the ring if they are close to getting KOed.
with this logic people can complain about everything. are you serious dude?
Yeah, I am serious.Edited by gatekeeper13 on October 10, 2020 3:13PM0 -
alainjbrennanb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭JayKwellen wrote: »gatekeeper13 wrote: »alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »i agree most bow ganks run when they see you or cloak and will never have a fair fight
Actually, that's what EVERY high lvl player I ve fought in Cyro does. Every single one of them I ve fought and had their health dropped to e.g 20%, they started running around trees, rocks, walls, going up-down stairs etc
Really though what do expect them to do? Just stand there while in execute range and let you kill them?
I NEVER RUNMain character dk - Vanikifar whitestrike0 -
relentless_turnip✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭gatekeeper13 wrote: »relentless_turnip wrote: »Yeah but not everyone builds to be a boxer... Why shouldn't you turn a fight in your favour.
If I am low health of course I'm not going to stop fighting, that includes avoiding your finishing blow...
This is an ignorant opinion IMO...
Turn the fight in your favor by using your skill. Not by hiding behind walls, rocks and climbing stairs. Otherwise you are just fooling yourself.gatekeeper13 wrote: »JayKwellen wrote: »Really though what do expect them to do? Just stand there while in execute range and let you kill them?
When you 1v1 someone, you put your skills against his. If the other guy is close to defeating you, stay and die. Dont start running away and hiding behind walls to satisfy your ego that you were not defeated. It's ridiculous.
Imagine boxers start running away from opponents and around the ring if they are close to getting KOed.
with this logic people can complain about everything. are you serious dude?
Yeah, I am serious.
You can't out skill all incoming damage😂 like I said this is ignorant...4 -
Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭gatekeeper13 wrote: »relentless_turnip wrote: »Yeah but not everyone builds to be a boxer... Why shouldn't you turn a fight in your favour.
If I am low health of course I'm not going to stop fighting, that includes avoiding your finishing blow...
This is an ignorant opinion IMO...
Turn the fight in your favor by using your skill. Not by hiding behind walls, rocks and climbing stairs. Otherwise you are just fooling yourself.gatekeeper13 wrote: »JayKwellen wrote: »Really though what do expect them to do? Just stand there while in execute range and let you kill them?
When you 1v1 someone, you put your skills against his. If the other guy is close to defeating you, stay and die. Dont start running away and hiding behind walls to satisfy your ego that you were not defeated. It's ridiculous.
Imagine boxers start running away from opponents and around the ring if they are close to getting KOed.
with this logic people can complain about everything. are you serious dude?
Yeah, I am serious.
Running behind rocks etc is a skill.
Also, like I get thats how you feel, but thats not how games work1 -
JayKwellen✭✭✭✭✭StaticWave wrote: »
2/ Bad players =/= low level players. There are many max cp bad players who reached Grand Overlord through zerging. Watch some 1vX videos and you will see plenty of this example.
3/ 1vXers don't "run" because they can't fight "good players". They run to find line of sight and regain control of the fight by thinning out the herd. You can't control how many people come to the fight, but you can control how many people you're able to fight by line of sighting. If there are 10 EPs heading my way I'm not going to sit in plain sight and eat dmg from all 10 EPs, that would be suicide. I'm going to find line of sight and break the group up to a more manageable number. It's a valid tactic in many games, not just eso.
Aint that the truth right there. I still have clips of myself and my partner beating up multi-star 810's when we were in the 500's, back when we thought PvP rank mattered lol. I'm friends with a couple that always run together, also lowbie CP's, and they regularly turn out groups of higher ranked 810's. Hell one of the better magblades (actually great imo) I've seen on xbna is only CP 350ish, and I've literally watched him easily X multiple 810's before, and give really good fights to other really good players despite being at a huge CP disadvantage (if you're reading this chaplime, sorry about how my hubs and I jumped you outside Sej and BRK the other night. We came along and you were brutalizing some of our homies and you know, gotta protecc our own, you understand)
And I seriously don't understand why everyone seems to think that someone running to a tower or a rock or whatever automatically means they're 'running away'. Do they just expect people to just stand there and facetank 10 people at once or something? Same goes for killing low level players/PvErs in a group that's chasing them. I mean, if I'm getting chased by a mob them...of course I'm going to kill the weakest first? No I'm not gonna go after the DK with 30k health who knows how to keep his mending and vigor up, that dude's gonna take forever. No, I'm gonna go for the guy with 21k health in back spamming light attacks. Even if he's a total potato, potatoes can still lob meteors and dawnbreakers. It's the same reason I'm gonna poke at everyone to try and see who's squishiest and focus that person first. It's nothing personal against them, it's just solid strategy...divide em up and work your way up from the bottom.1 -
gatekeeper13✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »Running behind rocks etc is a skill.
No. Hiding behind walls is not skill. Walls neutralize all dmg, not you.relentless_turnip wrote: »You can't out skill all incoming damage😂 like I said this is ignorant...
What you say is actually pure ignorance. If you can't out skill all incoming damage through blocking, roll-dodging, using shields, potions etc, that means the guy you fight is better than you.
Using the wall or a rock to save yourself is running away from fight.
But we are living in a period where proc sets fight instead of us and we have spheres blocking dmg on our behalf so I guess walls and rocks are in the game too.
Edited by gatekeeper13 on October 11, 2020 11:13AM1 -
Swordancer✭✭✭Crimson and Leeching Poison, 1H and Shield on second bar and you are really hard to kill but still be able to kill somone who do not have tanky build without quite much problem. Just remember that there are better claesses for that. Unfortunately, such armored builds win battles. Killing machines are not so usefull anymore.Edited by Swordancer on October 11, 2020 11:34AM0 -
relentless_turnip✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭gatekeeper13 wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »Running behind rocks etc is a skill.
No. Hiding behind walls is not skill. Walls neutralize all dmg, not you.relentless_turnip wrote: »You can't out skill all incoming damage😂 like I said this is ignorant...
What you say is actually pure ignorance. If you can't out skill all incoming damage through blocking, roll-dodging, using shields, potions etc, that means the guy you fight is better than you.
Using the wall or a rock to save yourself is running away from fight.
But we are living in a period where proc sets fight instead of us and we have spheres blocking dmg on our behalf so I guess walls and rocks are in the game too.
Every time you speak you emphasise my point.... Have you seriously never used the environment for protection in this game or any other? I would find that incredibly hard to believe... Moving out of the way of incoming damage is a skill. if you aren't for any reason not utilising this basic mechanic that is present in most action games the you are gimping for yourself.Edited by relentless_turnip on October 11, 2020 12:56PM3 -
Swordancer✭✭✭I don't think the proc sets would be so popular if it wasn't for the lags. Lag makes skills and reflexes unimportant. You can't make the right combo if you even can't use your skil or hit the taget becouse he is in some other place right now.
The builds would look completely different if not for the lags.Edited by Swordancer on October 11, 2020 12:54PM1 -
gatekeeper13✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭relentless_turnip wrote: »Every time you speak you emphasise my point.... Have you seriously never used the environment for protection in this game or any other? I would find that incredibly hard to believe... Moving out of the way of incoming damage is a skill. if you aren't for any reason not utilising this basic mechanic that is present in most action games the you are gimping for yourself.
Yes, I have never used enviroment, maybe few times by accident but never ran around obstacles. Honestly. I prefer to get killed than use rocks, walls, stairs etc.2 -
IAmIcehouse✭✭✭✭relentless_turnip wrote: »gatekeeper13 wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »Running behind rocks etc is a skill.
No. Hiding behind walls is not skill. Walls neutralize all dmg, not you.relentless_turnip wrote: »You can't out skill all incoming damage😂 like I said this is ignorant...
What you say is actually pure ignorance. If you can't out skill all incoming damage through blocking, roll-dodging, using shields, potions etc, that means the guy you fight is better than you.
Using the wall or a rock to save yourself is running away from fight.
But we are living in a period where proc sets fight instead of us and we have spheres blocking dmg on our behalf so I guess walls and rocks are in the game too.
Every time you speak you emphasise my point.... Have you seriously never used the environment for protection in this game or any other? I would find that incredibly hard to believe... Moving out of the way of incoming damage is a skill. if you aren't for any reason not utilising this basic mechanic that is present in most action games the you are gimping for yourself.
You can tell he's been on the X side of things in regards to "How to 1vX".0 -
Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭.gatekeeper13 wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »Running behind rocks etc is a skill.
No. Hiding behind walls is not skill. Walls neutralize all dmg, not you.relentless_turnip wrote: »You can't out skill all incoming damage😂 like I said this is ignorant...
What you say is actually pure ignorance. If you can't out skill all incoming damage through blocking, roll-dodging, using shields, potions etc, that means the guy you fight is better than you.
Using the wall or a rock to save yourself is running away from fight.
But we are living in a period where proc sets fight instead of us and we have spheres blocking dmg on our behalf so I guess walls and rocks are in the game too.
I keep picturing a soldier refusing to take cover from a tank because, "what?! Cover?! You dont cover take cover in a war! The WALL is doing all your fighting for you!"
Lol, its a moot point cuz Gankers gonna gank, LoS is gonna be a thing etc etc2 -
gatekeeper13✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »I keep picturing a soldier refusing to take cover from a tank because, "what?! Cover?! You dont cover take cover in a war! The WALL is doing all your fighting for you!"
Lol, its a moot point cuz Gankers gonna gank, LoS is gonna be a thing etc etc
An enemy player is not a tank and his skills cannot 1-shot you if you fight back.
Whatever, we agree that we disagree.IAmIcehouse wrote: »You can tell he's been on the X side of things in regards to "How to 1vX".
Actually everyone has been and still is on the X side of things, Mr Poirot. What will you do if you see an enemy inside your keep? Stay still and wait for someone to 1v1 him? Lol.
My opinion on using the enviroment was about 1v1 btw.0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WShMzwT-nM