FIX Horse Speed training or GIVE BACK RAPIDS

Merforum

Merforum wrote: »

Merforum wrote: »

SydneyGrey wrote: »

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

There is nothing to fix with mount training.. it works as intended.. and come on, it takes 1-2 hours tops to get rapid

If that's true, then why did they have to move Vigor in the first place? After all, it would have only taken 1-2 hours tops to get Vigor.

Exactly right. And Vigor isn't even an ASSAULT based skill, much more in like as SUPPORT. They should have just swapped Vigor with Siege Shield and everyone would be happy because anyone using Siege Shield would only be PVP players.

Or better yet since SOUL MAGIC only has one skill they could have put Rapids there, and Vigor too. Since it is way more realistic that people will do the main quests to get those rather than forcing non-PVP who actually hate PVP to have to play PVP.

It was very luckily that I literally got 8 toons to level 5 or 6 during MYM. Out of 13 I only have 1 without Rapids at the moment. Guess I'll have to bring my new Stam Warden into BG and see how long it actually takes to level up.

Well folks I am so sick of how slow my horse is I finally did it, joined BG. The first session was very good, we WON. Nice thing is you are just a likely to get some good PVP players on your team as being against you, although we did have one lvl 43 who didn't do much.

I saw a lot of people crying about the Thews/harbinger set so I had to give it a try and it is wonderful. I tried it in IC and was impressed. Now in BG it was better than I expected. It is completely amazing blocking a templar who is spamming jabs/sweeps and using the light attack animation canceling exploit and instead of me dying the die while I am blocking. Mostly I am only dying when everyone is ganging up on me or when I can't bar swap fast enough, since front and back bar are different sets. Might stop using malacath so I can have both full 5 pieces sets active or use only one monster piece, next time.

I also really like that BG is only 15 minutes because just as I was getting bored and my hand started hurting from mashing buttons, it was over. But about 15 minutes later I tried it again and we got second place. I still have no idea, how to maximize point or anything and at the beginning I asked 'what's the objective' on both runs NOBODY even said HI in chat. So far BG seems funner than cyrodiil, and way more fun than IC/sewers with all the gankers.

So I got first and second place and my Assault went from about 2.2 to 2.9, so at this rate I'll probably have to do it 3-6 times. I'll have to learn how to increase our score because on the second run, first place was way ahead and 3rd place almost caught up with us.

Well I had to do battle Ground 6 more times so 8 total to get level 5. And believe or not it was getting fun, so I did it 4 more time so 10 times today, my fingers are going to be hurting in the morning. But I will say that was with a good build, a below lvl 50 with crap gear will get killed. So that is NOT a solution for getting Rapids on a new toon.

I noticed something though WHY does Rapids require level 5 but Horn ULT only is level 4, that is backwards. The other ULT in Support requires even level 6. And most guild ULTs you don't get until 10. This is so inconsistent. I was noticing too that some Lines have 5 skills and an ULT, some have 4 skills and ULT, some have 1 skill/ULT, some have 5 skills and NO ULT, why are all these skill lines so inconsistent.

I had another thought, can you make a Rapids that is just for the horse and put it anywhere as level 1 skill (Soul line). Then if you want to have a group expedition skill keep it where Rapids is now.

Sylvermynx

@Merforum -

Truthfully, I don't have a clue why the whole pvp skill lines are set up the way they are. I don't DO pvp. Serious. I pvp'd in WoW for quite a while on a pvp server in a friend's guild. I hated ever minute of it though I did "git gud". It wasn't fun, not ever. It's just not my thing, but for those who love it, go for it.

This whole rapids vs vigor thing is.... kind of I think a version of "well, let's just see how this turns out". Which of course to me just causes "rolls eyes".

Honestly? I think the devs are just doing stuff willy-nilly.... to see what sticks. I - am not willing to play that game personally....

Merforum

Sylvermynx wrote: »

@Merforum -

Truthfully, I don't have a clue why the whole pvp skill lines are set up the way they are. I don't DO pvp. Serious. I pvp'd in WoW for quite a while on a pvp server in a friend's guild. I hated ever minute of it though I did "git gud". It wasn't fun, not ever. It's just not my thing, but for those who love it, go for it.

This whole rapids vs vigor thing is.... kind of I think a version of "well, let's just see how this turns out". Which of course to me just causes "rolls eyes".

Honestly? I think the devs are just doing stuff willy-nilly.... to see what sticks. I - am not willing to play that game personally....

OMG I was just looking through the Assault/Support skill lines and NOTHING unlocks at level 3. This is stupid. If they just made Rapids unlock at level 3 it would be at least reasonable but also there's nothing unlocked a level 1. Really silly

Sylvermynx

Yeah. It's.... more than silly. I dunno.

MercilessnVexed

Unfortunately, I bet they won't fix any of it anytime soon. I can run faster on foot with movement speed armor than I can at a sprint on any of my mounts now. My stamina lasts longer than the mounts too. I feel sorry for magicka chars, bumbling along with little stamina to keep them going.

Huh. Not only does ZoS have the riding packages in the crown store, but they're offering the Hailcinder Vale elk to buy too. Is it a magickal elven steed that isn't broken? Or did ZoS ride it and break it first?

Merforum

Beastygrowls wrote: »

Unfortunately, I bet they won't fix any of it anytime soon. I can run faster on foot with movement speed armor than I can at a sprint on any of my mounts now. My stamina lasts longer than the mounts too. I feel sorry for magicka chars, bumbling along with little stamina to keep them going.

Huh. Not only does ZoS have the riding packages in the crown store, but they're offering the Hailcinder Vale elk to buy too. Is it a magickal elven steed that isn't broken? Or did ZoS ride it and break it first?

Yeah, at a minimum you shouldn't be able to run faster than your mount. Simply setting your sprint speed, as the horses walking speed, would make sense.

I did a test back when Summerset came out (and several times since) and found that the NEW mounts seem to run faster than older mounts. Also the old mounts actually get stuck on roots, steps, etc and take them out of gallop but new mounts just fly right over everything (even tall shrubs) without even hesitating.

I'm sure the easiest thing in the world would be just make Rapid unlock at level 3. Not sure why people think they wouldn't do something like that.

OldManJim

Reckon the rapids issue will be completely ignored in ESO Live today?

Hurbster

I doubt it will be mentioned. If it is I'm betting it will be laughed off.

I'll come back to the game if it's changed back (or they take up one of the suggestions that they happily ignored), quite happy doing other things until then. Shame as I played since Beta and really love the game. But standing by my principles and all that malarkey.

OldManJim

I just got banned from twitch chat for posting "Rapids Rapids Rapids Rapids Rapids".

What a crock of poo...

Hurbster

Well, it was ignored. Oh well, last chance is the pts notes on Monday. Then my sub runs out and the game gets deleted.

SilverBride

Of course it was ignored. They are not going to revert this change.

Merforum

OldManJim wrote: »

I just got banned from twitch chat for posting "Rapids Rapids Rapids Rapids Rapids".

What a crock of poo...

Well they forced me to play BG and it is actually more fun than cyrodiil and infinitely more fun that ganker fest in IC/sewer. Now I'm level 7 already. The thing that makes it better than anything else is that it is only 15 minutes, which is even less wasted time than PUG dungeon runs.

But one thing that is annoying is that about 1/4 of the time my team is stuck with only 3 people, against 4 and 4. And unlike dungeons I think you are stuck that way, no replacement. But like a dungeon you got people who totally suck, die all the time, and even people who only play for the first half and then just wait until it is over, you can't kick them. With 4 people who know what to do and stick together it is very simple to win though, so I can see why they removed teams/groups.

By tankish build is fantastic, I don't usually get the most kills but I have the highest Assisted kills usually. And I can keep 2 or 3 people busy while my team does the objectives (which I don't know best way to do yet).