I love Imperial City events because...

West93

This event is probably most fun I had in months.

Cyro is usually fighting 25-50 regulars on each side everyday that you even know their build, characters and who they team with.

In IC same but more like 5-10 regulars.

But right now there are like 500 different people I never seen before to fight and it's absolute chaos I love it, no more monotony fighting same people over again.

Vetixio

dsalter wrote: »

Vetixio wrote: »

Don't forget all the nightblades ganking from stealth the recent buff to NBs and proc sets have made this event a pain tbh

do you not like getting a raid wipe due to ONE SINGLE PLAYER using proxy detonation+soul tether with vicious death?

seriously i hate the no skill cheese bombblades and this event just makes their epeens look REALLY BIG!
theres no counter for a stealth AoE stun that ignores radiant magelight and an AoE that deals upward of 20k+20K per player death

No lol, Bomblades are fine I can appreciate a good bomber. The Nightblades that are the worst are the proc set ones that have made a resurgence due to ZOS buffing proc sets, its like flashbacks to the Viper, Tremorscale etc days of 1 Tamriel

Jeremy

CaffeinatedMayhem wrote: »

zaria wrote: »

For IC espesialy during event if far more hardcore PvP than Cyrodil.

Wait, how is ganging up on solo players of the other alliance "hardcore" PvP? I at least have some respect for people who 1v1 me, esp if they wait for me to stop fighting NPCs. Sure, they mow me down with the current cheese, but that's at least a fair fight compared to everyone else who baits, or gangs up on me while I'm fighting.

I really miss the old days, where solo questers who didn't engage were mostly left alone. I allow others the same courtesy I want: not going to target you if you don't target me. Most of the time they kill me as soon as I turn away. One guy even chased me into another district after I let him run away from a duel, for a second kill.

Whoever said "these are the kids no one likes".. yep. Except they're not kids, they're adults WITH kids. Maybe grandkids. And they think people believe "I don't look at names so I didn't know I was chasing you across one district into another for a second kill"

Yeah, I had a similar experience today. There was this one person I spared who was nearly dead by enemies (I could have easily picked them off). I even helped them by getting some of the mobs off. I just assumed they were new and probably just a quester since they were struggling against the regular enemies. Then he or she ran off and collected a half dozen of their buddies ... tracked me down... and proceeded to gleefully slaughter me, complete with a proper tea bagging at the end.

Don't ever doubt that nice guys finish last. Because they do. lol

In respect to 1v1, hell... at this rate I would even settle for 2 or 3 or even 4 vs 1. Even that would be a dramatic improvement over what I've been experiencing.

xshatox

I only got few thousand when ganking noobies. Whats up with that. Noobies pickup the slack? Help me get more telvar.

Firstmep

I always loved the concept of ic, but sadly it's not very well utilized.
That being said events like this that bring a lot of ppl in make the place feel quite lively.
I'm having great fun pvping, always a great opportunity to test openworld builds without the lag or horse ride simulator aspect of cyrodiil.
Kinda wish they made IC more appealing, although I'm guessing most players that come here during the event only care about their event tickets.

Bucky_13

dsalter wrote: »

Vetixio wrote: »

Don't forget all the nightblades ganking from stealth the recent buff to NBs and proc sets have made this event a pain tbh

do you not like getting a raid wipe due to ONE SINGLE PLAYER using proxy detonation+soul tether with vicious death?

seriously i hate the no skill cheese bombblades and this event just makes their epeens look REALLY BIG!
theres no counter for a stealth AoE stun that ignores radiant magelight and an AoE that deals upward of 20k+20K per player death

A few things, and I don't bomb myself, but I have tried it out of curiousity. It does take skill and timing to bomb, you can tell the bad bombers from the good ones.

There are counters for bombers. First, don't stack. You rarely have to, the amount of times when I stay a small distance away from a group and watch them get bombed only to kill the bomber after the bomb is a lot. Then you have all the AoEs, traps etc on the group which also makes things harder for them, a really good bomber can still get a bomb off, but the average to bad ones usually won't.

I do love bombers tho, it's fun to watch entire groups of players go splat, even if it's my allies.

Thannazzar

All the PVPers are in IC and I can get the cyrodil overland achievements done in peace!

Curious_Death

Baphomet wrote: »

You have have full servers full of big zergs spamming AoEs without any lag or ability delay. And on top of that, there's loads of NPCs for the servers to handle.

Are we really sure that AoEs are the reason Cyrodiil is lagging?

yes.. i love how this groups follow mindlessly a soloers and spam 10000 skills at him for 20 min untill die ... wasting time just to kill theirs world boss called solo player!

FlopsyPrince

Firstmep wrote: »

I always loved the concept of ic, but sadly it's not very well utilized.
That being said events like this that bring a lot of ppl in make the place feel quite lively.
I'm having great fun pvping, always a great opportunity to test openworld builds without the lag or horse ride simulator aspect of cyrodiil.
Kinda wish they made IC more appealing, although I'm guessing most players that come here during the event only care about their event tickets.

How do you make getting regularly ganked more appealing?

I would tend to let other questers alone, but I have found enough come to attack me later that I feel compelled to attack anyone I can, mostly losing of course.

Then the remove the variant of Crystal Blast I center around just before the event to make me even more useless. Really frustrating that part!

Major_Lag

ArchMikem wrote: »

Turn Milegates in Cyrodiil into loading screen gates so Cyro can be cut up into four separate instances? Only problem is players could camp and farm the Milegates cause your physical body loads into the world faster than your client does.

Maybe Milegates should have Faction Guards controlling Coldfire Ballista that automatically target you within a certain proximity, so you can't just camp.

Or, you know... maybe the exact same solution that has been used for years (and works well) in IC? The "double door" system which puts you on an unreachable-from-below platform and gives you the blue invincibility effect as long as you don't drop down from there.

Yukon2112

Zones are easy picking for mats

FlopsyPrince

Major_Lag wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

Turn Milegates in Cyrodiil into loading screen gates so Cyro can be cut up into four separate instances? Only problem is players could camp and farm the Milegates cause your physical body loads into the world faster than your client does.

Maybe Milegates should have Faction Guards controlling Coldfire Ballista that automatically target you within a certain proximity, so you can't just camp.

Or, you know... maybe the exact same solution that has been used for years (and works well) in IC? The "double door" system which puts you on an unreachable-from-below platform and gives you the blue invincibility effect as long as you don't drop down from there.

I had not realized I was invulnerable. I just thought I couldn't crouch to hide. Thanks for that update!

xshatox

Just change your char to which alliance own the district and have more group if trying to do quest or tel var farming. Imperial city is not locked. On the other hand if you want to gank or bomb choose the other alliance.

dsalter

CaffeinatedMayhem wrote: »

dsalter wrote: »

Vetixio wrote: »

Don't forget all the nightblades ganking from stealth the recent buff to NBs and proc sets have made this event a pain tbh

do you not like getting a raid wipe due to ONE SINGLE PLAYER using proxy detonation+soul tether with vicious death?

seriously i hate the no skill cheese bombblades and this event just makes their epeens look REALLY BIG!
theres no counter for a stealth AoE stun that ignores radiant magelight and an AoE that deals upward of 20k+20K per player death

35k+35k/per on my bomblade

point proven. its BS and should not be doable from stealth.
im fine if you can pull it off by kamakazi'ing in to get the kills, that has the ability to be countered.
using proxy det, stealth and soul tether should not automatically score you 30+ kills.
the fact that soul tether can ignore radiant mage lights no stun ability from stealth attacks tells you how broken it is.

FlopsyPrince

xshatox wrote: »

Just change your char to which alliance own the district and have more group if trying to do quest or tel var farming. Imperial city is not locked. On the other hand if you want to gank or bomb choose the other alliance.

I know it is not really true, but the one in control seems to change as soon as I do that!

Vevvev

I love the event because Its given me a reason to grind Tel'Var stones so I can finally get all those housing storage chests!!!

I also hate this event because it has effectively destroyed my faction's ability to compete in Cyrodiil... All my DC brethren went to the City...

AdamBourke

I'm terrible at PvP and just want to do the story quests, but it's hard with 2/3 of other players jumping in to help the waves of Daedra .

deleted210809-001958

I love Imperial City events because i can take a break from pvp and do quests from new chapters

Mortiis13

PizzaCat82 wrote: »

There are zerg groups who do not get decent AP. they do not get decent telvar. They only get the satisfaction of camping spawn areas to *** people off.

Do they give PVPers bad names? No, they are pvpers. They are the purest form of the bunch. The ones who simply want to grief and kill anything they see. Their goal? Your frustration.

You can claim to not be those people, that "not all pvpers..." but we all know better.

No way a pvp player wants to fight against other players. Wtf is wrong with them.
Also Ic needs other builds as bg or cyro. Everyone knows its full of ganker. And even that is a legit pvp playstyle. If u like it or not.

mattaeus01b16_ESO

Nope....

Grizzbeorn

How many Telvar stones does a person "win" when they defeat someone who isn't carrying any Telvar?

Vevvev

Grizzbeorn wrote: »

How many Telvar stones does a person "win" when they defeat someone who isn't carrying any Telvar?

I believe it's 0.

Magdalina

PizzaCat82 wrote: »

There are zerg groups who do not get decent AP. they do not get decent telvar. They only get the satisfaction of camping spawn areas to *** people off.

Do they give PVPers bad names? No, they are pvpers. They are the purest form of the bunch. The ones who simply want to grief and kill anything they see. Their goal? Your frustration.

You can claim to not be those people, that "not all pvpers..." but we all know better.

I would like to point out that 8/10 times I died in IC earlier today I died to what I'd call PvEers. There was a DC zerg of ~10-15 people running around, no one higher than like rank 10, all seemingly equally terrible at actually fighting players if caught off guard (read: away from the zerg. I did not gank anyone, I just ran into a couple as they strayed away from main group). The moment they saw 1 lonely me running around killing mobs 50 m away from them, they were on me like wasps on someone who poked their nest.

Am I upset by that? Not really, I did want to PvP and I banked all my TV before going in. However, I find these 'toxic PvPers killing poor innocent PvEers' complaints highly amusing. This is not the first time that your poor innocent PvEers zerg jumped 1 lonely me like 3 times in a row. Seems that as soon as poor innocent peaceful PvEers outnumber the opposing party more than 3:1 they magically transform into horrible toxic PvPers

Thechuckage

Firstmep wrote: »

I always loved the concept of ic, but sadly it's not very well utilized.
That being said events like this that bring a lot of ppl in make the place feel quite lively.
I'm having great fun pvping, always a great opportunity to test openworld builds without the lag or horse ride simulator aspect of cyrodiil.
Kinda wish they made IC more appealing, although I'm guessing most players that come here during the event only care about their event tickets.

If the people liked the zone, it would have people. Just like the MYM event, everyone left when the tickets were gone. Sure you might get a few new faces, but that's it.

If you have to artificially boost the numbers, its not good.

SshadowSscale

Funny how its always the pvp players being toxic.....so earlier today I was in ic and there was about 6 blues questing in the district so I decide to let them be and do my own thing( farming telvar from mobs and bosses). Eventually a blue pvp player shows up and starts fighting me.... And since I had 30k telvar I am going to fight back and defend myself..... And then the 6 pve players also jump jnto the fight.... So I kill thrm first because they are easier to kill than the pvp player wich eventually also died..... It was funny to see the pve players whisper me for being a toxic pvp player because I killed them after I left them alone to do their own thing the whole time..... So no it is not just the pvp players..... And I know someone is going to hate me for posting this but its fine

ZaroktheImmortal

Magdalina wrote: »

PizzaCat82 wrote: »

There are zerg groups who do not get decent AP. they do not get decent telvar. They only get the satisfaction of camping spawn areas to *** people off.

Do they give PVPers bad names? No, they are pvpers. They are the purest form of the bunch. The ones who simply want to grief and kill anything they see. Their goal? Your frustration.

You can claim to not be those people, that "not all pvpers..." but we all know better.

I would like to point out that 8/10 times I died in IC earlier today I died to what I'd call PvEers. There was a DC zerg of ~10-15 people running around, no one higher than like rank 10, all seemingly equally terrible at actually fighting players if caught off guard (read: away from the zerg. I did not gank anyone, I just ran into a couple as they strayed away from main group). The moment they saw 1 lonely me running around killing mobs 50 m away from them, they were on me like wasps on someone who poked their nest.

Am I upset by that? Not really, I did want to PvP and I banked all my TV before going in. However, I find these 'toxic PvPers killing poor innocent PvEers' complaints highly amusing. This is not the first time that your poor innocent PvEers zerg jumped 1 lonely me like 3 times in a row. Seems that as soon as poor innocent peaceful PvEers outnumber the opposing party more than 3:1 they magically transform into horrible toxic PvPers

You assume that all pvpers are good at pvp. You would be wrong. I've killed quite a few gankers and pvpers before in pve healer gear. Last event I had one repeatedly try to kill me go invisible then pop out again until I killed them before they could go invisible. Also zergs of terrible pvpers are common in cyrodil. Being a pvper doesn't mean they're good at it.

ZaroktheImmortal

In fact last event during midyear I got hate whispers from pvpers who died when they attacked me then they started bringing friends to help them zerg.

LadyLethalla

I'm having so much fun in IC this event that I wish these sorts of events happened much more frequently. Sure, I'm getting bombed and ganked, but I've also been ganking. Lost telvar, gained telvar, had a ball.

Major_Lag

Vevvev wrote: »

Grizzbeorn wrote: »

How many Telvar stones does a person "win" when they defeat someone who isn't carrying any Telvar?

I believe it's 0.

Correct. You only get half of what the victim was carrying. And half of 0 is still 0. (or alternatively, half of '0' is '(', if you take it very literally )

AdamBourke wrote: »

I'm terrible at PvP and just want to do the story quests, but it's hard with 2/3 of other players jumping in to help the waves of Daedra .

The IC event is the absolute worst time to be doing any PvE quests in IC (because of the overcrowding), especially if you are not part of a decent (and/or large) group. "Counterproductive" is a pretty good way of describing it.
Wait until the event is over, then wait a few more weeks for things to calm back down, and then you will once again have a near-dead IC to work with for doing the PvE quests in relative peace.

ZaroktheImmortal wrote: »

Magdalina wrote: »

PizzaCat82 wrote: »

There are zerg groups who do not get decent AP. they do not get decent telvar. They only get the satisfaction of camping spawn areas to *** people off.

Do they give PVPers bad names? No, they are pvpers. They are the purest form of the bunch. The ones who simply want to grief and kill anything they see. Their goal? Your frustration.

You can claim to not be those people, that "not all pvpers..." but we all know better.

I would like to point out that 8/10 times I died in IC earlier today I died to what I'd call PvEers. There was a DC zerg of ~10-15 people running around, no one higher than like rank 10, all seemingly equally terrible at actually fighting players if caught off guard (read: away from the zerg. I did not gank anyone, I just ran into a couple as they strayed away from main group). The moment they saw 1 lonely me running around killing mobs 50 m away from them, they were on me like wasps on someone who poked their nest.

Am I upset by that? Not really, I did want to PvP and I banked all my TV before going in. However, I find these 'toxic PvPers killing poor innocent PvEers' complaints highly amusing. This is not the first time that your poor innocent PvEers zerg jumped 1 lonely me like 3 times in a row. Seems that as soon as poor innocent peaceful PvEers outnumber the opposing party more than 3:1 they magically transform into horrible toxic PvPers

You assume that all pvpers are good at pvp. You would be wrong. I've killed quite a few gankers and pvpers before in pve healer gear. Last event I had one repeatedly try to kill me go invisible then pop out again until I killed them before they could go invisible. Also zergs of terrible pvpers are common in cyrodil. Being a pvper doesn't mean they're good at it.

So much this.

On most of my PC-NA characters, I did the IC PvE questline a few months ago while levelling them to lvl 50. Although to be fair, I did wait till I was around lvl 35+, just so that I had a good selection of abilities and passives to work with.

Because I was there only for the PvE content and this was my fresh start on PC-NA (no master crafter), I used the "best" gear that I could craft - which was objectively quite bad, since you can't do miracles with only 3-4 trait craftable gear - and I did not use any impen because I knew that it won't help me against the skilled, fully geared CP810+ players; besides at that time I was there purely for PvE and not for PvP. (note that this was long before the change which added base crit resist to the game)

In part due to the timezone difference, I only ran into a handful of enemy players, and seldom into more than 1 at any one time. But about half of those I did run into 1v1 were rather easily dispatched - which was quite surprising, considering that I was woefully undergeared and unprepared for fighting any enemy players. I didn't even have any burst combo abilities slotted, just wall of elements + crushing shock + soultrap.

Some of those players didn't even try to fight back and tried to run away. Others tried to fight back, but clearly failed at the resource management minigame.
When I lost, if the fight was fairly "evenly matched" (remember, I was badly undergeared and underbuilt!) it was usually due to my overconfidence in trying to finish off an enemy who was in execute range without paying too much attention to my own HP.
And then of course there were the times when I ran into a proper PvPer with decent gear and skill, and then I would get deleted in a few seconds.

But at the end of the day, I was quite shocked at how bad many of the players I ran into were. No burst combo, no proper defense (blockcasting BoL does not constitue a "proper defense"!), or even no self burstheal. Crazy.

Grizzbeorn

Vevvev wrote: »

Grizzbeorn wrote: »

How many Telvar stones does a person "win" when they defeat someone who isn't carrying any Telvar?

I believe it's 0.

That's kinda what I assumed, but I wasn't sure.

So I can bank all my telvar, and deny anyone the spoils of rag-dolling my noob butt all over IC while I'm still learning.
Cool, cool, cool.