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Gap Closers not working

kajanzaru
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A few days ago I was in IC chasing down a sorc and noticed that my abush stopped working midfight.
I can't use it at all in PVP, PVE works fine though.

So I asked someone in BG and he told me that it affects other gapclosers too. And what happened?
Some matches later I couldn't use Critical Rush anymore.

I can stand right next to the player and it will display 'Target out of range' for both skills.

That guy also said that ZOS knows but how come I didn't see anything on reddit (except 1 Topic) or here?

Edit: please fix before IC event next week :(
Edited by kajanzaru on August 28, 2020 7:57PM
  • kingsforged
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    They replied that they tested 1 ability and it worked. Heard nothing since, but it's broken for every target based gap closer and just happens randomly. Yours is like the 7th or 8th report thread now lol
  • sami.uotilaeb17_ESO
    Hi,

    Critical Rush not working here in BGs.

    I've noticed that if I change build and dont use it against NPCs before I get in Battlegrounds it is most likely bugged in BGs.

    Also changing any ability in the same Bar with Critical Rush in the middle of BG most likely causes Critical Rush to bug again.

    Truly annoying when wearing a cap closer proc-set!

  • kajanzaru
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    He's right! After
    Hi,

    Critical Rush not working here in BGs.

    I've noticed that if I change build and dont use it against NPCs before I get in Battlegrounds it is most likely bugged in BGs.

    Also changing any ability in the same Bar with Critical Rush in the middle of BG most likely causes Critical Rush to bug again.

    Truly annoying when wearing a cap closer proc-set!

    You're right! After i used it on NPCs/Monster I was able to use it again!
  • visionality
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    Same problem in IC. Crit rush is perma-greyed out in the districts, no matter what you target. Wrote a bug-report including a screenshot. Not even crashing the game and reloading will fix this. The only way to get that ability back to work is to leave the zone (that is: IC, not just a district or the sewers) and do something else. Returning to IC will make the skill unusable again.

    Perfect programming with the new proc sets that require a teleport/leap/jump to proc.
    Haha.
  • fred4
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    Take Flight stopped working for me recently in IC. Failed both against players and NPCs. My other ultimate would still work (Corrosive Armor). Yes, I had enough ultimate. No, my targetting was not off, as I had ample time to target NPCs at leisure. I got Take Flight working again by removing it from the skill bar and reslotting it.
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  • hakan
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    My stampede and take flight works but ambush does not work. No matter the distance, elevation, LoS it doesnt work.

    sad, i just began using it again.
  • madrab73
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    Stampede not working for me in IC ps4
  • Pandorii
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    Hi. I want to bump this. Templar toppling charge not working in BG or IC sometimes. Not sure what bugs it or how to fix. I would really appreciate if Devs would look into it.

    It makes a HUGE difference in survivebility in these zones.
  • valeriiya
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    PS4 NA - Can confirm that DK leap is not working in BG's
    Edit: the Nix Ox in Morrowind are getting stuck in the air when they do their leap
    Edited by valeriiya on September 2, 2020 6:53PM
  • celner4_ESO
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    Happens in IC and BGs only so far for me don’t know if it is happening in Cyrodil... but yeah any gap closer Seems to eventually lose all range and be useless until relogging or sometimes when un-slotting and re-slotting the ability...
    Edited by celner4_ESO on September 2, 2020 7:21PM
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  • GetAgrippa
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    This is completely game breaking. Just went through a bg unable to leap. Has there been any word from zos? This is appalling.
  • tt_rs3
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    Yup same for a friend of mine in IC. Crit rush. Relog fixed it. Ps4
  • ixie
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    Same in IC today, Lotus Fan not working
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  • valeriiya
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_SarahHecker @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_Adrikoth @ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_Gilliam @ZOS_Finn @ZOS_RichLambert
    Is anyone looking into this??? Hello? How many threads need to be made?
  • GetAgrippa
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    valeriiya wrote: »
    @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_SarahHecker @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_Adrikoth @ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_Gilliam @ZOS_Finn @ZOS_RichLambert
    Is anyone looking into this??? Hello? How many threads need to be made?

    Just wait until the IC event starts. There will be a hundred more. How can zos not acknowledge this?
  • celner4_ESO
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    GetAgrippa wrote: »
    valeriiya wrote: »
    @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_SarahHecker @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_Adrikoth @ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_Gilliam @ZOS_Finn @ZOS_RichLambert
    Is anyone looking into this??? Hello? How many threads need to be made?

    Just wait until the IC event starts. There will be a hundred more. How can zos not acknowledge this?

    I’m hoping the silence is because they’re trying to figure out what it is before responding, though a response acknowledging it’s and issue and they’re looking for a fix would be hugely appreciated and appease most people annoyed by the no acknowledgement and no reassurance they’re attempting to fix it... all they have to do is cancel related threads if they see it necessary and post in the most popular thread their acknowledgement and reassurance a fix is In the works. Would take all of 2 minutes to write that response in that thread... I’m wondering what other severe bugs may be taking precedence over this one 🤔🙄
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  • RebornV3x
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    Yeah same here my gap closers are greyed out and every time I target an enemy it says target is out of reach even when the enemy is well within the distance need for the skill to fire.
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    I also play on PC from time to time but I just wanna be left alone on there so sorry.
  • MurderMostFoul
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    It appears to be related to the disabling modifier applied to gap closers in pvp safe zones (starting areas in BGs, IC).

    Those modifiers used to be removed when leaving a safe zone, but this bug is making them persist.
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  • Pyr0xyrecuprotite
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    Same issue here with Ambush (Teleport Strike morph) on my stamblade in IC (PC/NA, Khajiit, AD). The skill simply does not work at all, does not recognize any targets regardless of distance. I have not tested in BGs or Cyro. It works fine in PvE zones tho.
  • katanagirl1
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    Happens in IC and BGs only so far for me don’t know if it is happening in Cyrodil... but yeah any gap closer Seems to eventually lose all range and be useless until relogging or sometimes when un-slotting and re-slotting the ability...

    In Cyrodiil my gap closer is still working *fingers crossed* *knock on wood* for now.

    It’s the sword&board one, think it’s called Invasion.

    The mount stamina bug is a problem for us too now.
    :(
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  • Asardes
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    Yesterday I played a couple of BGs on my Stamina DK on PC-EU. The first one was fine, but in the 2nd one I noticed that Take Flight simply refused to work. Even if the player was right in front of me it said "Target out of range". I finished the BG by replacing it with DBoS although my score was quite low. I did try re-slotting it or even swapping gear and skill setup back and forth, I still wasn't able to make it work. Then went outside and used leap on some mobs in Craglorn, it worked just fine.

    This morning I went to IC to prepare the daily for the event, leap was bugged again. Tested again in Vvardenfel on some mobs, it worked. So I guess only IC and BGs are affected; maybe Cyrodiil to but I didn't test. It's funny because I have another Stamina DK on NA, using exactly the same skill setup, and leap worked fine for him. I mean same code, same character basically, yet one is bugged, the other isn't. It's even odder that the bug surfaced more than one week after the patch and it's persistent, meaning it's not reset by simply re-slotting the skill or relogging.
    Edited by Asardes on September 3, 2020 12:31PM
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    There's another topic opened here and the developers actually responded:
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/542672/bug-dragonknight-ferocious-leap-range-removed
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  • valeriiya
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    "we're looking into it" aka we don't care and have no idea what we broke now
  • newtinmpls
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    GetAgrippa wrote: »
    This is completely game breaking. Just went through a bg unable to leap. Has there been any word from zos? This is appalling.

    I recently saw a note from @ZOS_GinaBruno in another thread saying that Dragon Leap was working fine, no problems.

    Should I laugh or cry?
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  • Pandorii
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    newtinmpls wrote: »
    GetAgrippa wrote: »
    This is completely game breaking. Just went through a bg unable to leap. Has there been any word from zos? This is appalling.

    I recently saw a note from @ZOS_GinaBruno in another thread saying that Dragon Leap was working fine, no problems.

    Should I laugh or cry?

    I think they dismissed it too quickly, and I hope that they look at it again. It's pretty easy to replicate, and someone has already identified the issue. There is a status effect that triggers when you are in a safe zone, and it lingers once you leave.

    It seems like the IC event is going to REALLY bring attention to some MAJOR issues. Ohh well.
  • GetAgrippa
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    Pandorii wrote: »

    I think they dismissed it too quickly, and I hope that they look at it again. It's pretty easy to replicate, and someone has already identified the issue. There is a status effect that triggers when you are in a safe zone, and it lingers once you leave.

    It seems like the IC event is going to REALLY bring attention to some MAJOR issues. Ohh well.

    They finally acknowledged it in the dragon leap bug thread.
    Thanks for the additional information, everyone. Just confirming we are still investigating this to try and determine the root cause. We'll let you know when we have an update.

    Edited by GetAgrippa on September 3, 2020 4:23PM
  • Lowbowski5
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    I can Confirm on first day of the Imperial City Event on Xbox Ambush , crit charge, Leap , and even Silver shard All are not Functional In IC at all. However if your Werewolf you can still Leap and If your a Templar you can still use Topping Charge.
    I really hope this gets fixed after the first days of this patch I just spent farming Castle Thorn for the Unleashed set. I'm not even surprised anymore just very very Disappointed.
    Edited by Lowbowski5 on September 3, 2020 9:36PM
  • kajanzaru
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    I read all your responses and I'm glad that this topic took off again, because it's really annoying to deal with this issue.

    To those who didn't try yet (a few of you did and it didn't work sadly):

    Use your gap-closer against npc's. That's what worked for me and made the skill usable again in BG's (didn't try IC again yet).

    If it helps, it will probably not fix it permanently as I got that same bug again after a few BG's.
    My routine is now: Log in -> use 'Ambush' (enter your gapclosing ability here) on NPC -> BG -> when BG has ended and I join the queue again, I kill mobs using Ambush so it will constantly 'refresh'

    Probably some of you are in the same corner as me and don't use their gapcloser usually vs NPC and therefore the skill won't 'refresh' (dunno what else to call it)

    Keep reporting though, I do so too.
  • kargen27
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    It is kind of odd but I have two accounts and Toppling Charge worked on one but not the other. The account that works my character is under level 50. The account where Toppling Charge rarely works my character is max everything basically. I'm guessing just a stupid coincidence but either way it is really annoying.
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  • Sarousse
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    Yeah, the charge bug is annoying, but has anyone noticed the "impossible to execute" bug ?

    In IC, as soon as my target reaches the execute range (<20% I'd say), there is like 1 to 2 seconds delay for my execute skill to fire (previous skills were instant). And I'm using whirwind blades, so it's not a matter of being in melee range.
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