Is it legit to queue in the LFG as another role?

Banana

Queue for your role. There are enough *** in game already

Minyassa

That's basically why I never use the group finder. If I can't find guildies to run something with me I'll just do it another day. That BS is not something I'm willing to tolerate so I don't play with it. ZOS won't do anything about it because there are enough people who are willing to put up with it to keep the group finder active. If activity dropped off sharply because of it, they'd fix it.

abzdeman

ahhh so you've discovered the fake tank and healer. Please take a seat right here.

newtinmpls

Dusk_Coven wrote: »

TERA has an interesting solution: If there is no tank/heal/dd match after too long, it asks if you want to match a team and go in without some of the roles

Wow...that's a neat option

Zer0_CooL

If the "Tank" is capable of tanking the boss, i don't mind at all. I rather run with a 3rd DD that takes most of the damage, than wait an other 30 minutes in queue until a "real" tank schows up.

Same for healer, if its a DD just slot a heal more.

But ofcorse, this counts not for all the content.

svendf

AzucarSalado wrote: »

Tsar_Gekkou wrote: »

Everest_Lionheart wrote: »

Sometimes it’s sucks to sit in that’s queue as a DD for 20 minutes but for the good of everyone people really need to queue for their own roles. Especially if it’s a DLC or any vet dungeon. Some premade groups of 1 tank and 3 DD’s can pull some of that stuff off but for PUG you never know what you are going to get.

Increase all our chances on clearing the dungeon efficiently and queue for the correct role.

20 minutes is probably the case if you're just doing a random dungeon. trying to get into a normal dlc dungeon could take hours, if the queue pops at all. I was trying to farm Cradle of Shadows and couldn't get a queue to pop at all as a dps, but when I queued on my healer, I got in a lot quicker but the dps was horrible, even by normal dungeon standards. Instead of spending an hour in a normal dungeon with snipe spammers, I queued as a tank with inner fire on my petsorc and just taunted everything and melted them down. That way the group had actual damage, and didn't have to potentially deal with a tank running everything around the room which makes it take longer to kill stuff.

As I see it, if you have a taunt and can block, you are a tank. Nothing wrong with not being a super-tank/ super dd/ super healer, being newbie or still learning. Maybe, your healer disagrees with me if you caused him a bigger stress than usual.

The other day happened some thing funny. We made a normal dlc dungeon with 2 tank. I was just thinking that there were a newbie DD because the pulls and bosses were taking ages to kill. After we failed the dps check on the last boss, I asked one of the DD and It turned out that he was a newbie tank that did not had other gear (only heavy) or dps skills (only 1h and shield). I was tanking with a toon that I had recently leveled up and I did no have either a DD build. I wore one set of my stam DD that I had in the bank and, in the end, we did it.

So health has nothing to do with tanking ? So just slot a taunt and block, right ? No sir don´t agree seen it too often. Please don´t give people strange ideas.

svendf

newtinmpls wrote: »

To answer OP's actual question, no, it's not legit, okay or ethical to sign up as something you are not.

That being said:
1-if you have 30k health, and a taunt and a pull, that's enough to tank for most base non-vet dungeons
2-If you have a heal over time AND an AoE heal and a good enough sense of how things are going to know when and how to use them, that's enough for a healer for most base non-vet dungeons. Later, or as soon as you can, I'd advocate some kind of resources, shards for Templars, Orbs for anyone else, the resto staff lifesteal as soon as you can use it.

Now comes the part that is more difficult.
If you are doing most of your damage with light attacks, or a bow, you likely aren't a legit DPS.
If you only have AoE damage, or you only have single target damage, then you likely aren't a legit DPS.

Find me a ddd fake tank with 30k health please. After all we are talking dd fake tanking - not healer, who are fake tanking.

We don´t se healer´s q as fake tank do we ? Nope. I have never seen a dps having 30k health. My magplar have 20k healt and oftrn se between 18k and 22k.

Gythral

What one can do & what one should do differ

That's it!

AzucarSalado

svendf wrote: »

So health has nothing to do with tanking ? So just slot a taunt and block, right ? No sir don´t agree seen it too often. Please don´t give people strange ideas.

You are right. I was being very generic. Of course, the more health, the safer.

Anyway, I see health more as a safenet in case things go messy. I believe that when I started (before the undaunted patch and the cp system), I was around 25k. Now, I am between 45k and 50k depending on the sets. I have not tried reaching 60k. The thing is that for normal pledges, if I have enough stamina (for taunts, roll, block), my health drops more in big pulls than in bosses. Exceptions of bosses I can think of where the health is really handy: Moon Hunter Keep 3rd boss if the group ignores the mechanic and it enrages, March of Sacrifices 1st boss in case I fail a block, Depths of Malatar 1st boss if I run out of stam - my second most hatred boss in pledges because I fail it a lot :'( . For veteran; this 3 mechanics are one shot kill with 50k health, so this is why I was not giving much significance to health.

AzucarSalado

Fawn4287 wrote: »

If you play a half dps or tank depending on the content its no problem, if you run a tank that does dps but taunts the boss its all good, likewise with healer if not more so, a build that runs a matriach, refreshing path, funnel health or some other decent heal to make some healing is fine. However if you are out trying to get a no death or hard mode on a vet dungeon, running proper roles is definitely the best option, however if you run say a tank and 3 magcro DPS all with restoring tether and one runs ele drain, you should he able to easily do nearly all 4 man content. These scrubs complaining about needing a healer for stuff like vet fungal 1 are Or COA 1 are probably the reason this post needed to be made at all.

Just to be clear, I am asking if it is legit.And, if not, if ESO/ZOS cares about it.

I am not asking about being time efficient.

LuxLunae

if u truly have true 3 DPS and probably one heal....or 1 tank.... That party will AWLAYS BE ON TOP!!!

If you have 2 Weak DPS, 1 tank , 1 heal... that party is dead in the water...

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