Toxicity Data for Vote Kicking in Vet Content

mairwen85

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

There are absurdly ridiculous reasons why people will kick some one. I remember that clear as day:

- One time I was on my tank and got kicked... the reason was... not dying. Yeah. That happened. 2 DPS & healer were dying to mechanics. I was doing my best to aggro everything and CC it in the AOE of my DPS... but I can not CC the rest of my team to stop them from running into red / stupid... (this was before Earthgore set).
- The other time, some one must have had an add-on or something, because I got kicked for... doing more DMG than one of DPS... Yep, that happened too. I was doing probably like 8 - 10K DPS... quite normal for a tank. Also, battles were soo long, because we had apparently a "fake dps" in a group... oh well...

In general, I think that vote-kick system should be changed, so it would require 3 votes to kick someone, vs 2 votes as it is right now. If some one is trolling (kick system is there to kick trolls / griefers, not bad players) this would help a lot. The decision to kick someone is final. There is no going back from it. It should be decision of 3 player out of 4, not 2 out of 4.

And this is pretty much one of the reasons I dislike group dungeons. Because I know that sooner or later I will have a "joker" in my random group. So - If I do dungeons - I do them mostly solo. If it can be done solo - then I do those alone.

Only 2 people can vote on a kick (the subject of the kick cannot vote). If I initiate the kick, I can't vote against myself so let's call that 1; it then requires majority to fulfil. That means out of the 2 votes available both need to be yes. That's 1 + 2 = 3.

Tommy_The_Gun

mairwen85 wrote: »

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

There are absurdly ridiculous reasons why people will kick some one. I remember that clear as day:

- One time I was on my tank and got kicked... the reason was... not dying. Yeah. That happened. 2 DPS & healer were dying to mechanics. I was doing my best to aggro everything and CC it in the AOE of my DPS... but I can not CC the rest of my team to stop them from running into red / stupid... (this was before Earthgore set).
- The other time, some one must have had an add-on or something, because I got kicked for... doing more DMG than one of DPS... Yep, that happened too. I was doing probably like 8 - 10K DPS... quite normal for a tank. Also, battles were soo long, because we had apparently a "fake dps" in a group... oh well...

In general, I think that vote-kick system should be changed, so it would require 3 votes to kick someone, vs 2 votes as it is right now. If some one is trolling (kick system is there to kick trolls / griefers, not bad players) this would help a lot. The decision to kick someone is final. There is no going back from it. It should be decision of 3 player out of 4, not 2 out of 4.

And this is pretty much one of the reasons I dislike group dungeons. Because I know that sooner or later I will have a "joker" in my random group. So - If I do dungeons - I do them mostly solo. If it can be done solo - then I do those alone.

Only 2 people can vote on a kick (the subject of the kick cannot vote). If I initiate the kick, I can't vote against myself so let's call that 1; it then requires majority to fulfil. That means out of the 2 votes free it needs both to vote yes. That's 1 + 2 = 3.

I dont think it works like that. Many times when someone voted to kick someone, I was voting "no"... and that player was kicked. So I am pretty sure it only requires 2 votes. 1 that initiate it, and 1 other "yes".

mairwen85

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

mairwen85 wrote: »

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

There are absurdly ridiculous reasons why people will kick some one. I remember that clear as day:

- One time I was on my tank and got kicked... the reason was... not dying. Yeah. That happened. 2 DPS & healer were dying to mechanics. I was doing my best to aggro everything and CC it in the AOE of my DPS... but I can not CC the rest of my team to stop them from running into red / stupid... (this was before Earthgore set).
- The other time, some one must have had an add-on or something, because I got kicked for... doing more DMG than one of DPS... Yep, that happened too. I was doing probably like 8 - 10K DPS... quite normal for a tank. Also, battles were soo long, because we had apparently a "fake dps" in a group... oh well...

In general, I think that vote-kick system should be changed, so it would require 3 votes to kick someone, vs 2 votes as it is right now. If some one is trolling (kick system is there to kick trolls / griefers, not bad players) this would help a lot. The decision to kick someone is final. There is no going back from it. It should be decision of 3 player out of 4, not 2 out of 4.

And this is pretty much one of the reasons I dislike group dungeons. Because I know that sooner or later I will have a "joker" in my random group. So - If I do dungeons - I do them mostly solo. If it can be done solo - then I do those alone.

Only 2 people can vote on a kick (the subject of the kick cannot vote). If I initiate the kick, I can't vote against myself so let's call that 1; it then requires majority to fulfil. That means out of the 2 votes free it needs both to vote yes. That's 1 + 2 = 3.

I dont think it works like that. Many times when someone voted to kick someone, I was voting "no"... and that player was kicked. So I am pretty sure it only requires 2 votes. 1 that initiate it, and 1 other "yes".

It doesn't kick on a 50/50 split. It requires a majority vote. Every time a person is kicked it means 3 people did not want that person in the group. You can ensure never-kick by queuing with a friend.

Pauwer

Someone asked why slot venom arrow over poison injection, one reason would be the interrupt on the skill. I usually play tank or heal in vet dungeons and many times as a tank i die because no one interrupts some pin-down boss mechanic. As a healer i slot crushing shock nowdays and i can see it's usually me who does the interrupting when needed.

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