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No more leather from Mudcrabs! - bot farming solution
AgaTheGreat
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Mudcrabs in Alikr desert are an easy source of leather farming but the big spawn spots are usually occupied by bot farmers. Even on PS4 (and I've no idea how you can bot on a console) this is a big issue. The solution is simple - remove the incentive to bot farm by removing leather from the loot table of mudcrabs / wolves and any other bot farming animals.
PS4 EU Aga_The_Grey - retired | PC EU AgaTheGreat
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VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Er, bots can farm any animals or mobs. Ever seen the bot train killing harpies at Silverhoof Vale?16 -
Dark_Lord_Kuro✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭That would make them almost unoptainable
They can farm mostly anyting even camlorn werewolf3 -
Firstmep✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Dont forget rats around Sanguine Barrows, they have less hp than mudcrabs and drop more rubedo.
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Elsonso✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Leather shouldn't drop from a mudcrab, regardless of bots.
If we are going to go crazy and be sensible, chitin should always drop, while armor, weapons, and event boxes should not drop.
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Sugaroverdose✭✭✭✭✭
Real solution to this is openworld pvpAgaTheGreat wrote: »Mudcrabs in Alikr desert are an easy source of leather farming but the big spawn spots are usually occupied by bot farmers. Even on PS4 (and I've no idea how you can bot on a console) this is a big issue. The solution is simple - remove the incentive to bot farm by removing leather from the loot table of mudcrabs / wolves and any other bot farming animals.10 -
Rex-Umbra✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭They should of increased respawn times to a few minutes right now they respawn in seconds.Xbox GT: Rex Umbrah
GM of IMPERIUM since 2015.0 -
perditioner✭✭✭The best solution is to stop anything other than highest mats refining into gold mats.0
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VioletDracolich✭✭✭This will not solve the problem simply move it to another easy to grind mob. These bots are an issue, but there is no simple solutions here. Removing the leather drops from those mobs would be a problem for actually farms more than the bots. However, lowering the drop rate of leather from certain mobs might be an idea. It won't stop the bots, but it would slow them down a little bit. Again, not a real solution to this problem, but it could help a little maybe.0 -
Onefrkncrzypope✭✭✭✭✭
✭With the horrible 3 month swing on gear choices because ZoS thinks that's progress and balance, I think bots are the heroes we don't want. They drive prices down and keeps my wallet healthy in this game.-Immortal Redeemer-
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If I edited a post, it was for spelling. It is always because of spelling....3 -
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✭✭The simplest solution is to have eso employees/game-masters actually active in-game so they can shut these guys down as fast as they appear.
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Sahidom✭✭✭✭mudcrabs? You can find bot farmers in Rivenspire around the harpies just west of the first wayshrine entering the zone from the south.
In fact, its a great bot farming zone.0 -
Strider__Roshin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Terrible idea. The fact that I can't harvest poultry from insects breaks my immersion as it is!
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OlumoGarbag✭✭✭✭✭
✭I have never dropped leather from a crab
Are there some crabs with a thick skin?class representative for the working class, non-cp, bwb and Trolling0 -
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✭Dusk_Coven wrote: »Aren't they actually farming mudcrab chitin, which is worth more?
Yeah I wonder this too. Mudcrab chitin is worth more than twice as much as rubedo leather scraps. The chitin is the reason I have a habit of killing mudcrabs whenever I see them.2 -
Malkorga✭✭✭The actual solution is to remove auto loot and possibly add a confirmation window so you have to be more interactive
I know, never gonna happen, but there it is0 -
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✭AgaTheGreat wrote: »Mudcrabs in Alikr desert are an easy source of leather farming but the big spawn spots are usually occupied by bot farmers. Even on PS4 (and I've no idea how you can bot on a console) this is a big issue. The solution is simple - remove the incentive to bot farm by removing leather from the loot table of mudcrabs / wolves and any other bot farming animals.
BETTER SOLUTION: NO GOLD MATS refined from raw materials less than a certain level.
If you raise the barrier to obtaining these by making bot farmers work to farm you massively cut down on active bots. You won’t eliminate bot farmers, not when there is no barrier to game entry. But you can set up substantial hurdles that make farming extremely difficult and/or a turn off.
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JohnOfMarkarth✭✭✭Sugaroverdose wrote: »
Real solution to this is openworld pvpAgaTheGreat wrote: »Mudcrabs in Alikr desert are an easy source of leather farming but the big spawn spots are usually occupied by bot farmers. Even on PS4 (and I've no idea how you can bot on a console) this is a big issue. The solution is simple - remove the incentive to bot farm by removing leather from the loot table of mudcrabs / wolves and any other bot farming animals.
Forced too. And... and against randoms that took your node too. Not to mention someone who has better looking costume then you. And pvp bounty system, with malicious toxicity oozing from newly formed bounty hunter guilds that just go around preying on people like ratsI can't do this anymore. Every small ... petit change that went against any semblance of sense has snowballed into an avalanche of (Penn & Teller:) Bulls...!
Gods, bless me with patience.4 -
ThePianist✭✭✭Onefrkncrzypope wrote: »With the horrible 3 month swing on gear choices because ZoS thinks that's progress and balance, I think bots are the heroes we don't want. They drive prices down and keeps my wallet healthy in this game.Onefrkncrzypope wrote: »With the horrible 3 month swing on gear choices because ZoS thinks that's progress and balance, I think bots are the heroes we don't want. They drive prices down and keeps my wallet healthy in this game.
Agree. I’ve seen pretty sophisticated bots in Craglorn. I don’t know what these guys are farming but I think they’re farming Nirn mats. I help em out to drive prices of Nirn mats and get myself some mats too.
Each of the nirn weapon/armor traits are setting at 15k each in guild stores. I’m driving the prices down by selling them for 5k each.
Now if we could get some bots to farm Slaughterstone ;D....0 -
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✭✭✭✭The simplest solution is to have eso employees/game-masters actually active in-game so they can shut these guys down as fast as they appear.
I thought that was supposed to be happening.
Silly me.Tenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
Mol gro Durga - Orsimer Socerer/Battlemage who died the first time when the Nibenay Valley chapterhouse of the Order Draconis was destroyed, then went back to Cold Harbor to rescue his second/partner who was still captive. He overestimated his resistance to the hopelessness of Oblivion, about to give up, and looked up to see the golden glow of atherius surrounding a beautiful young woman who extended her hand to him and said "I can help you". He carried Fianna Kingsley out of Cold Harbor on his shoulder. He carried Alvard Stower under one arm. He also irritated the Prophet who had intended the portal for only Mol and Lyris.***Order Draconis - well c'mon there has to be some explanation for all those dragon tattoos.
House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis1 -
Mettaricana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Ps4 camlorn city theres about 70+ bot sorcs pet auto attacking any werewolf that spawns. Needless to say i reported and zos is yet to do anything about it really think the report button is just a decoration on the menu to make us think they care...0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭newtinmpls wrote: »
They have not done this since 2014, as near as I can tell. Basically, I think that the reason is that they know that it would take X number of people to do that work across all 6 megaservers, 24 hours per day, and that is significantly larger than the "ToS enforcement staff" that they actually employ.2 -
Fhritz✭✭✭✭✭Sugaroverdose wrote: »
Real solution to this is openworld pvpAgaTheGreat wrote: »Mudcrabs in Alikr desert are an easy source of leather farming but the big spawn spots are usually occupied by bot farmers. Even on PS4 (and I've no idea how you can bot on a console) this is a big issue. The solution is simple - remove the incentive to bot farm by removing leather from the loot table of mudcrabs / wolves and any other bot farming animals.
So true, killing bot will be so satisfyingI'm a single character man.
Stamblade. Khajiit. Mostly pvp.
And...that's it.2 -
Slyclone✭✭✭✭I stopped reporting bots when I realized they don't get bannedThat's it, that's all.1 -
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✭trackdemon5512 wrote: »AgaTheGreat wrote: »Mudcrabs in Alikr desert are an easy source of leather farming but the big spawn spots are usually occupied by bot farmers. Even on PS4 (and I've no idea how you can bot on a console) this is a big issue. The solution is simple - remove the incentive to bot farm by removing leather from the loot table of mudcrabs / wolves and any other bot farming animals.
BETTER SOLUTION: NO GOLD MATS refined from raw materials less than a certain level.
If you raise the barrier to obtaining these by making bot farmers work to farm you massively cut down on active bots. You won’t eliminate bot farmers, not when there is no barrier to game entry. But you can set up substantial hurdles that make farming extremely difficult and/or a turn off.
I think trackdemon's solution would be good, or make it so you need to be like past level 50 and into the CP points before you can start getting Legendary improvement materials, as you can still buy them at the traders and if you have higher level characters they can go farming the mats to get you what you need.Signed, Kotaro Atani.PS5 NAVR16/ CP 160 Khajiit Nightblade of the Aldmeri Dominion, Guildmaster and Assassin of the Queen's Hand guild on NA PC. PvP Officer in the WOLF guild on NA PS5, and of course Master Thief. Currently 3120 CP out of 3600 CP on NA PS5. Currently 810 CP on NA PC (used for PTS testing purposes only). On PS5 I am also a Master Crafter, all traits done and learned, Jewelry crafting done. all Motifs learned on PS5 except for maybe two-three Motifs. Both Companions are Max level as are their Skills.Warrior, Lover, Thief.... Nightblade. Aldmeri Dominion For Life! For the Queen!! Go Dominion or go home ! "I have no hatred for the races of Man, but they are young. Like all children, they are driven by emotion. They lack the wisdom that comes with age. I would sooner place an Altmer infant on the Ruby Throne than surrender Tamriel to their capricious whims. The Altmer, the Bosmer and the Khajiit share the common traits of intelligence, patience and reason. We do not seek riches or plunder. Domination is not our goal, nor is the acclamation of power for its own sake. Today we make our stand. Today we take back the Ruby Throne, which is ours by ancient right and the blessings of the Divines. Stand with us." ―Your Queen Commands, Ayrenn Arana Aldmeri.(All 18 characters are AD only! This one is a AD Loyalist)Member of ESO Since January 29, 2014, started early Access 3/30/14 on PC, currently subbed on NA PS5 and on NA PC. Note- I only use PC for PTS testing purposes, the PS5 is my dedicated Game Platform.Note- for those that don't know how to say Kotaro Atani it's "Ko tar row Ah ta ni" (Ko with a Oh sound, tar which sounds like the sticky black tar stuff, row like rowing a boat, Ah with a AHHHH sound, Ta with a Tahhh sound, Neeee which sounds like knee)"The blowing sands of time wipe clean the footprints of the past...""Moonsugar may be the key to paradise, but it is through a false door...""A perfect society is always elsewhere..."- Unknown book of Khajiiti proverbs.1 -
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✭✭Dusk_Coven wrote: »Aren't they actually farming mudcrab chitin, which is worth more?
Probably both0
