Stop complaining about everything ( NEW AOE COOLDOWN CHANGES)

Metalfyre

terrannova wrote: »

Why do u guys have to be negative about everything?

I have been playing mostly cp cyrodiil (have 2k hours played). I have taken many breaks from the game (the last one was over 1 year) ,only cause the performance in cyrodiil is the worst thing i have experienced in any game i've played.Okay maybe battlefiled 4 was simillar when it launched. If u see my posts in my profile u will get what im troubled with this game.

But if any of u guys have played cyrodiil for long enough u should have the intelligence to know and to sense that, whenever a zerg or a ball group call it however u want, is in the server everything is going downwards.
I will never forget a fight in VIVEC EU, around 2.5 hours siege in roebeck. AD defending against DC AND EP at the same time. Of course it was laggy ,but it was the exact kind of lag like at a time of just high pop on all factions and a medium size zerg roaming around. Which means a medium sized zerg lagged the whole high poped server...

Zergs need to be handled somehow. So let them try stuff ,cause something needs to be done about performance. Because i think that spamming the whole forum with "dont do this " and "dont u dare try that cause i will cancel my eso+" doesnt help. Specifically posts that people keep whining about changes without any specific context or reason.

I cant believe im actually siding with ZOS this time

have a great day

You are right. The solution would be: Get rid of Cyrodill PvP, so that's what I propose. And I want my 3 event tickets that now got lost because of this 7 hour extended maintenance and not be able to log in to do my dailies in time. Some people have to work and can't be up all night to wait to be abler to log in again. So yeah, no need to complain. It's only the first time this has happened in the last 6 months......


...... oh wait!

Gythral

When there is nothing left to complain about
(maybe)

terrannova

Metalfyre wrote: »

You are right. The solution would be: Get rid of Cyrodill PvP, so that's what I propose. And I want my 3 event tickets that now got lost because of this 7 hour extended maintenance and not be able to log in to do my dailies in time. Some people have to work and can't be up all night to wait to be abler to log in again. So yeah, no need to complain. It's only the first time this has happened in the last 6 months......


...... oh wait!

What does this have to do with what im trying to say? How does maintenance compare to the new pvp changes debate ?

Gythral

terrannova wrote: »

Metalfyre wrote: »

You are right. The solution would be: Get rid of Cyrodill PvP, so that's what I propose. And I want my 3 event tickets that now got lost because of this 7 hour extended maintenance and not be able to log in to do my dailies in time. Some people have to work and can't be up all night to wait to be abler to log in again. So yeah, no need to complain. It's only the first time this has happened in the last 6 months......


...... oh wait!

What does this have to do with what im trying to say? How does maintenance compare to the new pvp changes debate ?

maybe it's because t's a server issue & guess what underlies the "We've gonna change PvP"...

Madhatten512

Gotta love good old white knight for ZOS post.. Heaven forbid people get upset when they put money and time into something, and its constantly broken. Then the change they offer is horrible, and anyone that knows anything about how the combat in this game works already knows it will fail epically, but your right I shouldn't say anything about it. Its not like every patch in the last year has been "the performance patch" and every patch has been worse than the patch before.. Poor Zenimax employees they get paid to work on a video game. Continue to get paid while most of us are out of work because of the virus, but we can't hold them accountable for their failures makes sense.

Nemo78

Yes, stop complaining! Nobody cares about your lost tickets!

Athyrium93

I am willing to give the changes a try, at least they are trying something.... that said I really really hope they look at skills like jabs that are a spammable and an AOE, I really don't want to see my favorite class destroyed, but I'm going to try to give ZOS the benefit of the doubt that they will make changes to the classes they hurt with this to help them not be destroyed.

And maybe just maybe they will make some changes to their plan that won't make healers obsolete.....

terrannova

Madhatten512 wrote: »

Gotta love good old white knight for ZOS post.. Heaven forbid people get upset when they put money and time into something, and its constantly broken. Then the change they offer is horrible, and anyone that knows anything about how the combat in this game works already knows it will fail epically, but your right I shouldn't say anything about it. Its not like every patch in the last year has been "the performance patch" and every patch has been worse than the patch before.. Poor Zenimax employees they get paid to work on a video game. Continue to get paid while most of us are out of work because of the virus, but we can't hold them accountable for their failures makes sense.

yea right, look at my profile and my previous posts, before u start throwing white knight stuff around... also there are numerous posts and comments deleted by forum admins ,that i made. Im just trying to say that testing specific stuff wont hurt. Its mostly something like balancing just to try and stop those horrible zerg players that absolutely RUIN the server. How many times do u go into cyrodiil and when there is just one ball group ,whole server gets fked? Even if its not pop locked it will be like its full. I really really dont like zergs and i want them to stop taking advantage of the game balance and ruining everyone's pvp experience.

read again, im not defending ANYONE. im just kinda hopefull to where this is going. stop making rushed decisions only cause you are biased about things.

terrannova

Nemo78 wrote: »

Yes, stop complaining! Nobody cares about your lost tickets!

i didnt mention anything about tickets or maintentance... dont come here to write nonsense

Metalfyre

Gythral wrote: »

terrannova wrote: »

Metalfyre wrote: »

You are right. The solution would be: Get rid of Cyrodill PvP, so that's what I propose. And I want my 3 event tickets that now got lost because of this 7 hour extended maintenance and not be able to log in to do my dailies in time. Some people have to work and can't be up all night to wait to be abler to log in again. So yeah, no need to complain. It's only the first time this has happened in the last 6 months......


...... oh wait!

What does this have to do with what im trying to say? How does maintenance compare to the new pvp changes debate ?

maybe it's because t's a server issue & guess what underlies the "We've gonna change PvP"...

Well, at least YOU get it.

Metalfyre

Nemo78 wrote: »

Yes, stop complaining! Nobody cares about your lost tickets!

Ok, well nobody cares about you either

MasterSpatula

People who don't love this game don't complain about it; they ignore it. Only people who care about the game even bother to complain. When the complaining stops, worry.

AWinterWolf

Stop complaining, are you serious? We're paying for a game we can't play, we get queues because zos mess up another maintenance, both by extending it so many times, it's beyond ridiculous then adding a login queue to add salt to the wound, and you expect us to not complain? Our complaints are justified, this is at best, poor service.

Nemo78

MasterSpatula wrote: »

People who don't love this game don't complain about it; they ignore it. Only people who care about the game even bother to complain. When the complaining stops, worry.

Loving a game is one thing, being obsessed about it is another.
Btw, I know exactly how mmorpg obsession feels

terrannova

AWinterWolf wrote: »

Stop complaining, are you serious? We're paying for a game we can't play, we get queues because zos mess up another maintenance, both by extending it so many times, it's beyond ridiculous then adding a login queue to add salt to the wound, and you expect us to not complain? Our complaints are justified, this is at best, poor service.

please man... the point of this post is for another issue. Read before writing... I also pay for eso plus and im sitting here starring at a 30second queue time for 40mins now. do u think im happy? and we will get 0 compensation 0 apology or anyone even to tell us that they had a problem? get out of here

VVS40K

I think that as paying customers we are in our full right to complain about a whole day of service failures. We do pay (for ESO+) for specific amount of time and we don't get that time.

I do understand that keeping infrastructure of such magnitude as ESO, is not a trivial task and I am willing to give the server engineers some slack, BUT THIS HAPPENS EVERY MAINTENANCE. Days and days of our time wasted, with no compensation. It does destroy my good will towards ZSO.

Just today, I had a day off and wanted to spend some of it by playing my favorite MMO. Instead, I've been spoon-fed with minimal information, which was wrong entire day, with extension after extension after extension. Then it was impossible to login. Then there were queues, then the queues were lying to us as well. Mine says "30 secs" for half an hour already.

So, essentially I wasted half of my day, literally wasted. Not to mentioned that I did pay for that day with my real world money. Not a huge deal but this happens EVERY. SINGLE. MAINTENANCE.

AWinterWolf

terrannova wrote: »

AWinterWolf wrote: »

Stop complaining, are you serious? We're paying for a game we can't play, we get queues because zos mess up another maintenance, both by extending it so many times, it's beyond ridiculous then adding a login queue to add salt to the wound, and you expect us to not complain? Our complaints are justified, this is at best, poor service.

please man... the point of this post is for another issue. Read before writing... I also pay for eso plus and im sitting here starring at a 30second queue time for 40mins now. do u think im happy? and we will get 0 compensation 0 apology or anyone even to tell us that they had a problem? get out of here

Of course we're not going to get compensation or an apology. We'll get the usual, 'something went wrong' with no explanation. Things in Cyrodil will be nerfed and changed and it'll still be the same buggy, laggy mess it is now.

Aznarb

Player : ZoS fIx Ya GaMe !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Also player : sToP TrYiNg ThIng !!!!!!!!!!!

terrannova

VVS40K wrote: »

I think that as paying customers we are in our full right to complain about a whole day of service failures. We do pay (for ESO+) for specific amount of time and we don't get that time.

I do understand that keeping infrastructure of such magnitude as ESO, is not a trivial task and I am willing to give the server engineers some slack, BUT THIS HAPPENS EVERY MAINTENANCE. Days and days of our time wasted, with no compensation. It does destroy my good will towards ZSO.

Just today, I had a day off and wanted to spend some of it by playing my favorite MMO. Instead, I've been spoon-fed with minimal information, which was wrong entire day, with extension after extension after extension. Then it was impossible to login. Then there were queues, then the queues were lying to us as well. Mine says "30 secs" for half an hour already.

So, essentially I wasted half of my day, literally wasted. Not to mentioned that I did pay for that day with my real world money. Not a huge deal but this happens EVERY. SINGLE. MAINTENANCE.

i got the same thing bro. 30sec q for 45min now... i pay eso+ also. i am frustrated also. but this post isnt about server problems. its about pvp changes.
if u wanna nag about server queue i made a rant post about it. this post is meant for sth else

VVS40K

terrannova wrote: »

i got the same thing bro. 30sec q for 45min now... i pay eso+ also. i am frustrated also. but this post isnt about server problems. its about pvp changes.
if u wanna nag about server queue i made a rant post about it. this post is meant for sth else

Whoops, sorry! Got carried away with my frustration about the server problems.

Luckily, I don't play PvP, hence there will be no complaining about PvP from me, but I am a bit worried that all those announced AoE-related changes/nerfs eventually will get into PvE, which would be sad.

Iskaldt

Ofcourse people are going to complain. The game has had so many issues for far too long now and they cant seem to fix any of them without ruining something else in the proccess.

Constant unplayable lag and desyncs when playing pvp, and even in pve sometimes.

Maintainances lasting 10-12 hours with no information why, And after we cant log in for hours.

Unbalanced classes and gear combinations that doesnt get looked into or fixed.

Patches with buffs and nerfs changing the game and meta to something barely anyone wants but they still go trough with it.

They seem to make the same mistakes every time, and what we get is a copypasta that we are sorry and looking into it or something like that.

There seems to be little to no concern about the actual players missing out on things when something goes wrong.

i mean i could probably go on but the point is already made.

I guess aslong as they sell gambling crowncrates and monthly subs they are happy enough.

Tbh the only reason im still playing is becouse there are no other mmo's available with the gameplay and pvp style of Eso, and if there was id be gone long ago.

Ive allways wanted Eso to be a huge succsess and i hope the team behind it can make it so. But ive pretty much lost faith long ago.

terrannova

VVS40K wrote: »

terrannova wrote: »

i got the same thing bro. 30sec q for 45min now... i pay eso+ also. i am frustrated also. but this post isnt about server problems. its about pvp changes.
if u wanna nag about server queue i made a rant post about it. this post is meant for sth else

Whoops, sorry! Got carried away with my frustration about the server problems.

Luckily, I don't play PvP, hence there will be no complaining about PvP from me, but I am a bit worried that all those announced AoE-related changes/nerfs eventually will get into PvE, which would be sad.

no need to apologize man.. i dont think it will impact pve. It states only tests for cyrodiil so no need to worry

terrannova

Iskaldt wrote: »

Ofcourse people are going to complain. The game has had so many issues for far too long now and they cant seem to fix any of them without ruining something else in the proccess.

Constant unplayable lag and desyncs when playing pvp, and even in pve sometimes.

Maintainances lasting 10-12 hours with no information why, And after we cant log in for hours.

Unbalanced classes and gear combinations that doesnt get looked into or fixed.

Patches with buffs and nerfs changing the game and meta to something barely anyone wants but they still go trough with it.

They seem to make the same mistakes every time, and what we get is a copypasta that we are sorry and looking into it or something like that.

There seems to be little to no concern about the actual players missing out on things when something goes wrong.

i mean i could probably go on but the point is already made.

I guess aslong as they sell gambling crowncrates and monthly subs they are happy enough.

Tbh the only reason im still playing is becouse there are no other mmo's available with the gameplay and pvp style of Eso, and if there was id be gone long ago.

Ive allways wanted Eso to be a huge succsess and i hope the team behind it can make it so. But ive pretty much lost faith long ago.

people still play this game only cause the rest of the mmos out there are bad. U either play wow or ESO ,guild wars(is kinda dead) FFIV or BDO...
The point of this post is about the upcoming AOE changes. Not about performance NOT about balancing. im not saying anything about those in my post. Im reffering to the upcoming pvp changes.
I am frustrated too that i cant play now but this post is for another thing. Every game has its problems and issues.

TequilaFire

If you think the massive changes to class abilities needed to make their suggested changes work won't affect PvE, you are in for a massive let down.

angrydrew

Why not embroider a tapestry or learn to with all this good will and free time eso have given you.make a i love eso group and let people get annoyed when they rightly should be..

Celephantsylvius_Bornasfinmo

Still no show from community managers about this issue...
*complains*
*leaves room*

Iskaldt

terrannova wrote: »

Iskaldt wrote: »

Ofcourse people are going to complain. The game has had so many issues for far too long now and they cant seem to fix any of them without ruining something else in the proccess.

Constant unplayable lag and desyncs when playing pvp, and even in pve sometimes.

Maintainances lasting 10-12 hours with no information why, And after we cant log in for hours.

Unbalanced classes and gear combinations that doesnt get looked into or fixed.

Patches with buffs and nerfs changing the game and meta to something barely anyone wants but they still go trough with it.

They seem to make the same mistakes every time, and what we get is a copypasta that we are sorry and looking into it or something like that.

There seems to be little to no concern about the actual players missing out on things when something goes wrong.

i mean i could probably go on but the point is already made.

I guess aslong as they sell gambling crowncrates and monthly subs they are happy enough.

Tbh the only reason im still playing is becouse there are no other mmo's available with the gameplay and pvp style of Eso, and if there was id be gone long ago.

Ive allways wanted Eso to be a huge succsess and i hope the team behind it can make it so. But ive pretty much lost faith long ago.

people still play this game only cause the rest of the mmos out there are bad. U either play wow or ESO ,guild wars(is kinda dead) FFIV or BDO...
The point of this post is about the upcoming AOE changes. Not about performance NOT about balancing. im not saying anything about those in my post. Im reffering to the upcoming pvp changes.
I am frustrated too that i cant play now but this post is for another thing. Every game has its problems and issues.

Ahh yes. My post was more refering to your very first question why people have to be negative about everything. And i listed some reasons why. these are probably some of the reasons why people tend to go on the offensive so easy. Becouse its been too much for too long

terrannova

TequilaFire wrote: »

If you think the massive changes to class abilities needed to make their suggested changes work won't affect PvE, you are in for a massive let down.

u think so? i think it specifically says about cyro. But u're right, no one can be sure with those guys...

MasterPleb

People are just getting annoyed that after 6 YEARS, the performance is still ***. the forums are literally there for people to complain about such things.

CritsTheBed

eh i dont have a better game to play. ill wait for server to be back up and deal with templars not being able to spam jabs. thanks for all you do zos.