When Tamriel Trade Center Fails what now?

UGotBenched91

So, I’m looking for a Minotaur chest style. Last night I see two listed. I go to each trader and nothing’s there. Meaning whoever saw it there purchased it. No more listings. So I spend time running to different towns in-game searching every guild trader. It’s an annoying experience and I can’t help but feel there should be a better way (not auction house as I know this community’s feelings) to find items.

Danikat

I've been having a similar problem recently. I'm on PC EU so normally listings are automatically added to TTC by the addon and there's dozens of listings for most items. Recently there's been maybe 1 page at most and the majority of those are out of date.

For me it just means I'm not trading outside of my guild. Even with TTC it's pretty boring going through loading screens and running to traders hoping the item you want will still be there, I really cannot be bothered wasting my time doing it when the entire trip is a wild guess as to whether the items will be there at all. But I hope it gets fixed soon because I'm still missing a lot of motifs and I'd like to complete them eventually.

Ri_Khan

Sounds like you're a farmer now. Tribune's Folly all day, every day... for a couple months probably.

UGotBenched91

Ri_Khan wrote: »

Sounds like you're a farmer now. Tribune's Folly all day, every day... for a couple months probably.

Haha I’ll never give into the boring PVE grind of this game. I’ll be juggling doing that and continuing my search.

UGotBenched91

Danikat wrote: »

I've been having a similar problem recently. I'm on PC EU so normally listings are automatically added to TTC by the addon and there's dozens of listings for most items. Recently there's been maybe 1 page at most and the majority of those are out of date.

For me it just means I'm not trading outside of my guild. Even with TTC it's pretty boring going through loading screens and running to traders hoping the item you want will still be there, I really cannot be bothered wasting my time doing it when the entire trip is a wild guess as to whether the items will be there at all. But I hope it gets fixed soon because I'm still missing a lot of motifs and I'd like to complete them eventually.

Yeah it’s like running around like a headless chicken. Other games I’ve played without an AH have progression leveling so you knew what towns to go to for what level gear.

Thoragaal

UGotBenched91 wrote: »

So, I’m looking for a Minotaur chest style. Last night I see two listed. I go to each trader and nothing’s there. Meaning whoever saw it there purchased it. No more listings. So I spend time running to different towns in-game searching every guild trader. It’s an annoying experience and I can’t help but feel there should be a better way (not auction house as I know this community’s feelings) to find items.

There are two options for you, as far as I can tell.
One being you posting in zone chats that you're looking for this specific piece. Be prepared to pay more than avarage if you want it quicker.
The second one is simply about being patient and come back looking for the item at a later date. I like to collect motifs and when I see prices being out of control, or I can't find the item at all, I usually wait and go looking for something else instead.
Good luck!

Ri_Khan

Did the TG/DB event happen this year? That would be the best time to find what you're looking for.

Bucky_13

Patience, it will appear eventually. When I collected all furnishing plans pre Greymoor, I spent a lot of time checking TTC site for listings, a lot of times it was empty for the more rare ones. But eventually they popped up and was still at the traders.

Or you could grind it, but that's even worse.

Sylvermynx

I've been seeing fewer listings for things lately too - I'm wondering if it's just that people are involved in not only events, but antiquities to the exclusion of other things like farming motifs? Or maybe people just aren't using traders as much right now, being busy with other things.

I got the minotaur chest during the Anniversary event - this year on my second account NA and both accounts EU, last year on my main account NA - along with a LOT of other fairly rare to extremely scarce style pages.

peacenote

There's a bit of an art to the shopping, too. I have gotten to the point where I have good gut feelings about whether something will still be there, based on a combination of time of day, day of the week, and trader location.

More people are probably home and on stay-cations during the summer which will also make it more challenging... more folks that can snap up items anytime the second they see them.

Last, don't forget to check your filters. If this happens to me too many times in a row, I almost always find it's because I left a filter set on looking for deep discounts.

Pevey

Pricing on motifs dropped so much that a lot of people who hoarded masses of them from prior events and are the usual suppliers in the guild store are still holding back until prices recover. When they see some sales at higher prices, some supply will come back out for sale.

UGotBenched91

Pevey wrote: »

Pricing on motifs dropped so much that a lot of people who hoarded masses of them from prior events and are the usual suppliers in the guild store are still holding back until prices recover. When they see some sales at higher prices, some supply will come back out for sale.

So far I’ve seen it for 330k, 290k, and most recently 170k. Ha heck I’ll buy it I just need someone to sell it.

zaria

You have this site for an broader view.
https://esosales.uesp.net/viewSales.php
Select server and type in item, pretty nice for rarer and newer stuff like snowhawk robe
https://esosales.uesp.net/viewSales.php?viewsales=1358288&saletype=listed
Note that PC-US has much more results than PC-EU as they submit more data

shimm

UGotBenched91 wrote: »

Ri_Khan wrote: »

Sounds like you're a farmer now. Tribune's Folly all day, every day... for a couple months probably.

Haha I’ll never give into the boring PVE grind of this game. I’ll be juggling doing that and continuing my search.

Amen, I bought a Minotaur chest from one of my guilds after we lost our trader - for 15k! I used it and started doing the daily to get another (I didn’t realize how much they sell for) and gave up after 4 days.

Knightpanther

Looks like your on Shanks's Pony and visiting all those different stalls.

We need an auction house, long live the revolution!!!

Be Safe

newtinmpls

It doesn't "fail" it reports relatively accurately that such and so is pretty much not being sold currently.

Save and buy another day.

twev

Knightpanther wrote: »

Looks like your on Shanks's Pony and visiting all those different stalls.

We need an auction house, long live the revolution!!!

Be Safe

Downside to an AH is that there will be a few players who will buy up all the cheaper versions and hoard them to drive down the supply.
Price manipulation becomes a thing when shopping becomes too easy.

Thoragaal

UGotBenched91 wrote: »

Pevey wrote: »

Pricing on motifs dropped so much that a lot of people who hoarded masses of them from prior events and are the usual suppliers in the guild store are still holding back until prices recover. When they see some sales at higher prices, some supply will come back out for sale.

So far I’ve seen it for 330k, 290k, and most recently 170k. Ha heck I’ll buy it I just need someone to sell it.

During events, from when players recieve more than the usual rewards, people usually flock to these areas doing quick daily quests.
During the same time the market also gets flooded with motifs and the prices also drop.
But I'm not sure when the next event will happen that will allow you to get it cheaper.

doomette

*plays tiny violin emote*

-console player

AlnilamE

Hop into Gold Coast every once in a while and post a WTB in zone chat.

SickleCider

Welcome to the Console Experience. Now you understand.

ShawnLaRock

I have all the pages except for Motif 83 - and it took a lot of travelling to each GT to locate everything. You’d be surprised at the finds in the little one-off locations, like Thieves Guilds.

Gotta be fast / lucky to get the best deals!

S.

TequilaFire

I felt like I was going for "Grand Master Shopper" rather than "Grand Master Crafter" when I was doing that. lol

UntilValhalla13

Versispellis wrote: »

Welcome to the Console Experience. Now you understand.

Yep. I would kill for the ability to search all traders at once. Having to run up to each trader, type it in, wait for the search to hopefully not bug out, and run to the next. Then port to a different zone, long load time, run to traders, and repeat like 30 times.

SickleCider

UntilValhalla13 wrote: »

Versispellis wrote: »

Welcome to the Console Experience. Now you understand.

Yep. I would kill for the ability to search all traders at once. Having to run up to each trader, type it in, wait for the search to hopefully not bug out, and run to the next. Then port to a different zone, long load time, run to traders, and repeat like 30 times.

Yup. There will never be a convincing reason for all the time wasting to me. It can take literal hours just to find one thing, if you ever find it. If I can't find something in Grahtwood or Deshan I just don't bother.

newtinmpls

Versispellis wrote: »

If I can't find something in Grahtwood or Deshan I just don't bother.

I do use TTC, but sometimes it bugs out, and I have a few groups of traders I use - so to your list above I would add:

-Rawl'ka
-Vivec
-Stormhold

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UGotBenched91

newtinmpls wrote: »

It doesn't "fail" it reports relatively accurately that such and so is pretty much not being sold currently.

Save and buy another day.

Eh it fails to the point it only lists items that are seen therefore in very rare cases, such as this, it’s only showing items already bought. But, imo the whole guild trader system is a fail but I won’t venture into that.

barney2525

twev wrote: »

Knightpanther wrote: »

Looks like your on Shanks's Pony and visiting all those different stalls.

We need an auction house, long live the revolution!!!

Be Safe

Downside to an AH is that there will be a few players who will buy up all the cheaper versions and hoard them to drive down the supply.
Price manipulation becomes a thing when shopping becomes too easy.

This is a common misconception. Its not possible to do, when new repeat items appear Every day, and throughout the day. You can't 'hoard' stuff when the people you bought from continue to produce the same items. There will never be a time when there is 'no more' of the items, and then you can list what you bought for higher prices. All said person does is put themselves in the poor house by purchasing other players wares. Somebody awhile back said if we went to an AH they would buy up all the corn flower and sell it for 5000 gold per flower. That person would be very broke in a real hurry. Buying it all up at one time does not stop the supply.

I've played in several games with AH and what you describe does not occur. What does occasionally occur is someone listing single items like mats for a very low price, hoping the next person who lists in quantity is not paying attention and automatically lists for said lower price. Paying attention and checking what things are actually selling for negates this tactic.

IMHO

friimynd

and just now the website stopped working (at least for me, on different browsers)
this is certainly something eso could do in game, i actually don't mind running around, though it can be frustrating when something is already gone; sometimes it is still there, lol
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a rethink is essential

kargen27

I would like to see a bulletin board in the main city of every zone. The board would allow you to search for an item at all the traders in that zone. You wouldn't be able to buy the item there. You would still have to go to the trader to get the item. The board also would not give prices. That way people that want an item and don't care price can just go to most convenient trader to get said item and players that want a bargain will have to visit every trader that has the item listed.

friimynd

nah, all or nothing
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for Crowns you could purchase a Crystall Ball that allows you to search all traders in a Zone, for example
an UBER crystal ball might allow you to search all traders in a faction
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so for $50 you could do it, seems reasonable, eh?