Is alkosh stronger or weaker?

jypcy

SodanTok wrote: »

jypcy wrote: »

From my testing on PTS it shred 4510 armor, no matter how much the initial hit did. Was not hitting pen cap. Tested on standard 3mil dummies. Not sure if CMX is just misreporting the pen value or if it’s bugged in some way.

If you arent sure if CMX is misinterpreting some value then you havent been using CMX much. Equip 2H ulti and test again

Okay, but this isn’t about try to find something’s resistances haha. But sure, I hit with the 2H ult pen morph, then with alkosh, and CMX says it debuffs the target by their resists and then an additional 4510, even though the tooltip for the initial hit is 3190 damage and CMX says it did only 2225 damage.

Would be interested in other results, just sharing what I’m seeing.

karekiz

Used a 2nd account to toss me a synergy - 6 mil - no Raid dummy buffs - I took three Screen shots of damage dealt with various debuffs. This is 81 Master-at-arms / 33 piercing - Breton Sorc Tank.

No Debuffs - 2.9K



Major Fracture/Breach - 3.4K



Major Fracture/Breach/Crushing infused - 3.6K




Assuming "Roar of Alkosh" = damage which is the amount debuffed.
Also to note these were on 1h/Shield weapon set - They go higher when wielding my alkosh lighnting. 3.8K IIRC

Unsure why they redesigned it in the first place. It seems odd since most people said Resistance are largely not an issue anymore. DPS still won't equip it unless it rivals sets like Aegis Caller for example in terms of damage <AoE vs AoE>. I dunno if it does already in which cast there might be a niche use I suppose.

*Edit Sorry for small pictures! Didn't realize it would be that small for numbers.

xaraan

Looks a lot stronger to me now, even for tanks. They can afford to pump a bunch of CP into the direct damage passive vs. what most stamdps do, plus wear band of malacath to buff it since they don't do much crit anyhow.

jypcy

@karekiz is that on PTS? Seems like CMX says it’s debuffing by 3010 consistently, which is equal to the live value I think.

TmanFoody

UntilValhalla13 wrote: »

Can't y'all literally test it right now, as opposed to wondering?

Love,
A Console Player XD

I too am a console player

But I do own a pc copy of the game and a pc. I’m just at work right now and pretty impatient

karekiz

jypcy wrote: »

@karekiz is that on PTS? Seems like CMX says it’s debuffing by 3010 consistently, which is equal to the live value I think.

This is on PTS. I assume either either CMX or something not working.

It says directly on the set:
"Reduces the spell and physical resistance of any enemy hit by the amount of the initial hit's damage done for the duration"

jypcy

karekiz wrote: »

jypcy wrote: »

@karekiz is that on PTS? Seems like CMX says it’s debuffing by 3010 consistently, which is equal to the live value I think.

This is on PTS. I assume either either CMX or something not working.

It says directly on the set "reduces the spell and physical resistance of any enemy hit by the amount of the initial hit's damage done for the duration"

Yeah, that seems to be the case then, because it’s the same time every time we try it, but your 3010 is different from my 4510, neither of which I think we hit with the initial damage.

On that note, worth pointing out that I got 4510 on two separate characters even after closing the game entirely.

Eclipze

jypcy wrote: »

From my testing on PTS it shred 4510 armor, no matter how much the initial hit did. Was not hitting pen cap. Tested on standard 3mil dummies. Not sure if CMX is just misreporting the pen value or if it’s bugged in some way.

The way proc sets work is the damage does not scale wether you're a dps or not, the reason why nobody uses alkosh as a dps is because there are better sets out there to do more damage while the tank provides the passive alkosh buff. Proc sets scale off of champion points so in Alkosh for example putting 100 points into mighty and 100 points into master at arms will buff the damage of alkosh. Now if you get any buff that says "Increases Damage Done" Such as Minor Beserk, and Major beserk, and Minor Slayer / Major Slayer. The damage of alkosh will increase. If you increase your weapon damage on a dps to 5k weapon damage vs a tank with 1k weapon damage, the damage of Alkosh will remain the same. What it scales off of is CP and buffs. The only item thats bugged that has not been spoken about is Malacath band. Because i have tested it and Malacaths band does not for some reason increase the damage done on proc sets. Not sure if this was intended but untill i see a confirmation then i will assume that it was a bug.