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At this point it seems like a ritual to steal from nbs every patch and if you are wondering what I am talking about the new sets 5 piece gives 44 ult to you and 3 group members when you drink a potion meanwhile nbs gets only 10 ult for only themselves...... They legit stole the nb passive and made it better again.... Nb really lacks group utility and making their passibe give like 10-15 ult to themselves and 3 group mates would have been super nice to have but sadly zos decided to steal the nb passive and give it to everyone. At this point I have no idea what the balance team even does anymore.
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setayco✭✭✭[snip] Nothing is stolen. Nobody has your class passives and every set in the game provides passives which are “stolen from every other classes” quoting your words.
Is having a set that gives major brutality/major sorcery stealing identity from weapon skills lines?
Having sets with major protection stealing from wardens and necromancers?
Having a skill that allows you to run for 3 seconds to become invisible stealing a class skill that allows you to stealth immediately? There is not one single class or set that can allow you to do what a nightblade does. And if there is a similar set it certainly does not function better.
I see more infuriating posts from nightblades than constructive criticism posts. It could be easier to cater if you weren’t complaining about things that doesn’t even correlate to the state of class balance as these sets are available to everyone.... regardless of class. Same as vampire which at the moment people aren’t even taken advantage of.
Stamina sorcerer finally got a small change to an ability that favors nightblades’ spectral bow which does significantly less damage, different animation and is much far behind on “class identity” than any other class in the game. But that is “stealing aswell”
You would do much better if you drop the narrative on stolen property and bring to light the current situations on your class synergies involving other players to get your point across and provide proper feedback to get your desired change. Otherwise you will most likely be ignored.
[Edited to remove Baiting]Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on July 12, 2020 4:00PM23 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Just because one of the new item sets works for potion-oriented builds, @SshadowSscale, doesn't mean Nightblades are being ignored by the Combat Team.
I've linked what a slippery slope logical fallacy is from the Wikipedia so you can read up:
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SshadowSscale✭✭✭✭✭[snip] Nothing is stolen. Nobody has your class passives and every set in the game provides passives which are “stolen from every other classes” quoting your words.
Is having a set that gives major brutality/major sorcery stealing identity from weapon skills lines?
Having sets with major protection stealing from wardens and necromancers?
Having a skill that allows you to run for 3 seconds to become invisible stealing a class skill that allows you to stealth immediately? There is not one single class or set that can allow you to do what a nightblade does. And if there is a similar set it certainly does not function better.
I see more infuriating posts from nightblades than constructive criticism posts. It could be easier to cater if you weren’t complaining about things that doesn’t even correlate to the state of class balance as these sets are available to everyone.... regardless of class. Same as vampire which at the moment people aren’t even taken advantage of.
Stamina sorcerer finally got a small change to an ability that favors nightblades’ spectral bow which does significantly less damage, different animation and is much far behind on “class identity” than any other class in the game. But that is “stealing aswell”
You would do much better if you drop the narrative on stolen property and bring to light the current situations on your class synergies involving other players to get your point across and provide proper feedback to get your desired change. Otherwise you will most likely be ignored.
Because 44 ult for you and up to 3 group members is definatly not better than 10ultimate for yourself..... And I am sure if zos made an abilty that allows you to teleport a certain distance while stunning enemies you port through that sorcs would have no problem.... Now give that ability minor protection on top of that and sorcs will be chilled right? Also as stated nbs lack a lot of group utility.... This seems like something that would have been super nice for nbs as group utility but sadly it is off the board now.... And yes a lot of nbs are complaining about group utility and I have seen nothing that inidcates zos is gonna buff nbs any time over the last 2 years.... Hell they acidentally ended up nerfing nbs last patch and had to do a quick fix update to keep the class from completely dying
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✭✭✭✭✭SshadowSscale wrote: »[snip] Nothing is stolen. Nobody has your class passives and every set in the game provides passives which are “stolen from every other classes” quoting your words.
Is having a set that gives major brutality/major sorcery stealing identity from weapon skills lines?
Having sets with major protection stealing from wardens and necromancers?
Having a skill that allows you to run for 3 seconds to become invisible stealing a class skill that allows you to stealth immediately? There is not one single class or set that can allow you to do what a nightblade does. And if there is a similar set it certainly does not function better.
I see more infuriating posts from nightblades than constructive criticism posts. It could be easier to cater if you weren’t complaining about things that doesn’t even correlate to the state of class balance as these sets are available to everyone.... regardless of class. Same as vampire which at the moment people aren’t even taken advantage of.
Stamina sorcerer finally got a small change to an ability that favors nightblades’ spectral bow which does significantly less damage, different animation and is much far behind on “class identity” than any other class in the game. But that is “stealing aswell”
You would do much better if you drop the narrative on stolen property and bring to light the current situations on your class synergies involving other players to get your point across and provide proper feedback to get your desired change. Otherwise you will most likely be ignored.
Because 44 ult for you and up to 3 group members is definatly not better than 10ultimate for yourself..... And I am sure if zos made an abilty that allows you to teleport a certain distance while stunning enemies you port through that sorcs would have no problem.... Now give that ability minor protection on top of that and sorcs will be chilled right? Also as stated nbs lack a lot of group utility.... This seems like something that would have been super nice for nbs as group utility but sadly it is off the board now.... And yes a lot of nbs are complaining about group utility and I have seen nothing that inidcates zos is gonna buff nbs any time over the last 2 years.... Hell they acidentally ended up nerfing nbs last patch and had to do a quick fix update to keep the class from completely dying
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But nightblades can also wear the set and gain the benefit from both their passive and the set. No other class can do that. So nothing is taken.Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on July 12, 2020 4:00PM8 -
SshadowSscale✭✭✭✭✭SshadowSscale wrote: »[snip] Nothing is stolen. Nobody has your class passives and every set in the game provides passives which are “stolen from every other classes” quoting your words.
Is having a set that gives major brutality/major sorcery stealing identity from weapon skills lines?
Having sets with major protection stealing from wardens and necromancers?
Having a skill that allows you to run for 3 seconds to become invisible stealing a class skill that allows you to stealth immediately? There is not one single class or set that can allow you to do what a nightblade does. And if there is a similar set it certainly does not function better.
I see more infuriating posts from nightblades than constructive criticism posts. It could be easier to cater if you weren’t complaining about things that doesn’t even correlate to the state of class balance as these sets are available to everyone.... regardless of class. Same as vampire which at the moment people aren’t even taken advantage of.
Stamina sorcerer finally got a small change to an ability that favors nightblades’ spectral bow which does significantly less damage, different animation and is much far behind on “class identity” than any other class in the game. But that is “stealing aswell”
You would do much better if you drop the narrative on stolen property and bring to light the current situations on your class synergies involving other players to get your point across and provide proper feedback to get your desired change. Otherwise you will most likely be ignored.
Because 44 ult for you and up to 3 group members is definatly not better than 10ultimate for yourself..... And I am sure if zos made an abilty that allows you to teleport a certain distance while stunning enemies you port through that sorcs would have no problem.... Now give that ability minor protection on top of that and sorcs will be chilled right? Also as stated nbs lack a lot of group utility.... This seems like something that would have been super nice for nbs as group utility but sadly it is off the board now.... And yes a lot of nbs are complaining about group utility and I have seen nothing that inidcates zos is gonna buff nbs any time over the last 2 years.... Hell they acidentally ended up nerfing nbs last patch and had to do a quick fix update to keep the class from completely dying
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But nightblades can also wear the set and gain the benefit from both their passive and the set. No other class can do that. So nothing is taken.
Yeah but the issue is still that nbs still lacks group utility and even if mbs wear this set in grouos situations other classes will bring more utility by wesring this set plis for example sorc negate or necro colluses etc.... Meaning this set helps other classes more than it does nbsEdited by ZOS_ConnorG on July 12, 2020 4:01PM2 -
Lughlongarm✭✭✭✭✭SshadowSscale wrote: »SshadowSscale wrote: »[snip] Nothing is stolen. Nobody has your class passives and every set in the game provides passives which are “stolen from every other classes” quoting your words.
Is having a set that gives major brutality/major sorcery stealing identity from weapon skills lines?
Having sets with major protection stealing from wardens and necromancers?
Having a skill that allows you to run for 3 seconds to become invisible stealing a class skill that allows you to stealth immediately? There is not one single class or set that can allow you to do what a nightblade does. And if there is a similar set it certainly does not function better.
I see more infuriating posts from nightblades than constructive criticism posts. It could be easier to cater if you weren’t complaining about things that doesn’t even correlate to the state of class balance as these sets are available to everyone.... regardless of class. Same as vampire which at the moment people aren’t even taken advantage of.
Stamina sorcerer finally got a small change to an ability that favors nightblades’ spectral bow which does significantly less damage, different animation and is much far behind on “class identity” than any other class in the game. But that is “stealing aswell”
You would do much better if you drop the narrative on stolen property and bring to light the current situations on your class synergies involving other players to get your point across and provide proper feedback to get your desired change. Otherwise you will most likely be ignored.
Because 44 ult for you and up to 3 group members is definatly not better than 10ultimate for yourself..... And I am sure if zos made an abilty that allows you to teleport a certain distance while stunning enemies you port through that sorcs would have no problem.... Now give that ability minor protection on top of that and sorcs will be chilled right? Also as stated nbs lack a lot of group utility.... This seems like something that would have been super nice for nbs as group utility but sadly it is off the board now.... And yes a lot of nbs are complaining about group utility and I have seen nothing that inidcates zos is gonna buff nbs any time over the last 2 years.... Hell they acidentally ended up nerfing nbs last patch and had to do a quick fix update to keep the class from completely dying
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But nightblades can also wear the set and gain the benefit from both their passive and the set. No other class can do that. So nothing is taken.
Yeah but the issue is still that nbs still lacks group utility and even if mbs wear this set in grouos situations other classes will bring more utility by wesring this set plis for example sorc negate or necro colluses etc.... Meaning this set helps other classes more than it does nbs
Strange post, why would you even compare ulti gaining passive(and the NB passive is 20 btw) to 5 set bonus in terms of power?
And if anything, If I will decide to go hard into the potion drinking mechanism and reduce potion CD to 30 sec, wouldn't it be better for a NB to wear this set? This way I can double dip the value of my investment.
Your logic is false from all possible directions. Even if NB do have an issue with group utility, it got nothing to do with this set.Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on July 12, 2020 4:01PM3 -
SshadowSscale✭✭✭✭✭Lughlongarm wrote: »SshadowSscale wrote: »SshadowSscale wrote: »[snip] Nothing is stolen. Nobody has your class passives and every set in the game provides passives which are “stolen from every other classes” quoting your words.
Is having a set that gives major brutality/major sorcery stealing identity from weapon skills lines?
Having sets with major protection stealing from wardens and necromancers?
Having a skill that allows you to run for 3 seconds to become invisible stealing a class skill that allows you to stealth immediately? There is not one single class or set that can allow you to do what a nightblade does. And if there is a similar set it certainly does not function better.
I see more infuriating posts from nightblades than constructive criticism posts. It could be easier to cater if you weren’t complaining about things that doesn’t even correlate to the state of class balance as these sets are available to everyone.... regardless of class. Same as vampire which at the moment people aren’t even taken advantage of.
Stamina sorcerer finally got a small change to an ability that favors nightblades’ spectral bow which does significantly less damage, different animation and is much far behind on “class identity” than any other class in the game. But that is “stealing aswell”
You would do much better if you drop the narrative on stolen property and bring to light the current situations on your class synergies involving other players to get your point across and provide proper feedback to get your desired change. Otherwise you will most likely be ignored.
Because 44 ult for you and up to 3 group members is definatly not better than 10ultimate for yourself..... And I am sure if zos made an abilty that allows you to teleport a certain distance while stunning enemies you port through that sorcs would have no problem.... Now give that ability minor protection on top of that and sorcs will be chilled right? Also as stated nbs lack a lot of group utility.... This seems like something that would have been super nice for nbs as group utility but sadly it is off the board now.... And yes a lot of nbs are complaining about group utility and I have seen nothing that inidcates zos is gonna buff nbs any time over the last 2 years.... Hell they acidentally ended up nerfing nbs last patch and had to do a quick fix update to keep the class from completely dying
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But nightblades can also wear the set and gain the benefit from both their passive and the set. No other class can do that. So nothing is taken.
Yeah but the issue is still that nbs still lacks group utility and even if mbs wear this set in grouos situations other classes will bring more utility by wesring this set plis for example sorc negate or necro colluses etc.... Meaning this set helps other classes more than it does nbs
Strange post, why would you even compare ulti gaining passive(and the NB passive is 20 btw) to 5 set bonus in terms of power?
And if anything, If I will decide to go hard into the potion drinking mechanism and reduce potion CD to 30 sec, wouldn't it be better for a NB to wear this set? This way I can double dip the value of my investment.
Your logic is false from all possible directions. Even if NB do have an issue with group utility, it got nothing to do with this set.
Once again trying to point out how similar this set is to nb passive wich btw can only be activated after 60 seconds unless you got enchants to reduce potion cooldown. This effect of giving you and up to 3 allies ult would have worked so well for nbs instead of having the just gaining ult for yourself passive nbs have thus giving nbs at least some utility from their classEdited by ZOS_ConnorG on July 12, 2020 4:02PM0 -
Lughlongarm✭✭✭✭✭SshadowSscale wrote: »Lughlongarm wrote: »SshadowSscale wrote: »SshadowSscale wrote: »[snip] Nothing is stolen. Nobody has your class passives and every set in the game provides passives which are “stolen from every other classes” quoting your words.
Is having a set that gives major brutality/major sorcery stealing identity from weapon skills lines?
Having sets with major protection stealing from wardens and necromancers?
Having a skill that allows you to run for 3 seconds to become invisible stealing a class skill that allows you to stealth immediately? There is not one single class or set that can allow you to do what a nightblade does. And if there is a similar set it certainly does not function better.
I see more infuriating posts from nightblades than constructive criticism posts. It could be easier to cater if you weren’t complaining about things that doesn’t even correlate to the state of class balance as these sets are available to everyone.... regardless of class. Same as vampire which at the moment people aren’t even taken advantage of.
Stamina sorcerer finally got a small change to an ability that favors nightblades’ spectral bow which does significantly less damage, different animation and is much far behind on “class identity” than any other class in the game. But that is “stealing aswell”
You would do much better if you drop the narrative on stolen property and bring to light the current situations on your class synergies involving other players to get your point across and provide proper feedback to get your desired change. Otherwise you will most likely be ignored.
Because 44 ult for you and up to 3 group members is definatly not better than 10ultimate for yourself..... And I am sure if zos made an abilty that allows you to teleport a certain distance while stunning enemies you port through that sorcs would have no problem.... Now give that ability minor protection on top of that and sorcs will be chilled right? Also as stated nbs lack a lot of group utility.... This seems like something that would have been super nice for nbs as group utility but sadly it is off the board now.... And yes a lot of nbs are complaining about group utility and I have seen nothing that inidcates zos is gonna buff nbs any time over the last 2 years.... Hell they acidentally ended up nerfing nbs last patch and had to do a quick fix update to keep the class from completely dying
Edit:spelling
But nightblades can also wear the set and gain the benefit from both their passive and the set. No other class can do that. So nothing is taken.
Yeah but the issue is still that nbs still lacks group utility and even if mbs wear this set in grouos situations other classes will bring more utility by wesring this set plis for example sorc negate or necro colluses etc.... Meaning this set helps other classes more than it does nbs
Strange post, why would you even compare ulti gaining passive(and the NB passive is 20 btw) to 5 set bonus in terms of power?
And if anything, If I will decide to go hard into the potion drinking mechanism and reduce potion CD to 30 sec, wouldn't it be better for a NB to wear this set? This way I can double dip the value of my investment.
Your logic is false from all possible directions. Even if NB do have an issue with group utility, it got nothing to do with this set.
Once again trying to point out how similar this set is to nb passive wich btw can only be activated after 60 seconds unless you got enchants to reduce potion cooldown. This effect of giving you and up to 3 allies ult would have worked so well for nbs instead of having the just gaining ult for yourself passive nbs have thus giving nbs at least some utility from their class
Base potion CD is 45 sec not 60.
My point exactly, the similar effect make it so that it synergies with NB passive. As a NB, you should be happy. You have double the reason to go with 2 reduce potion cool-down. This is a good thing, not a bad one.
Asking for a buff to NB passive is something that should not be related to this set.Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on July 12, 2020 4:02PM1 -
SshadowSscale✭✭✭✭✭Lughlongarm wrote: »SshadowSscale wrote: »Lughlongarm wrote: »SshadowSscale wrote: »SshadowSscale wrote: »[snip] Nothing is stolen. Nobody has your class passives and every set in the game provides passives which are “stolen from every other classes” quoting your words.
Is having a set that gives major brutality/major sorcery stealing identity from weapon skills lines?
Having sets with major protection stealing from wardens and necromancers?
Having a skill that allows you to run for 3 seconds to become invisible stealing a class skill that allows you to stealth immediately? There is not one single class or set that can allow you to do what a nightblade does. And if there is a similar set it certainly does not function better.
I see more infuriating posts from nightblades than constructive criticism posts. It could be easier to cater if you weren’t complaining about things that doesn’t even correlate to the state of class balance as these sets are available to everyone.... regardless of class. Same as vampire which at the moment people aren’t even taken advantage of.
Stamina sorcerer finally got a small change to an ability that favors nightblades’ spectral bow which does significantly less damage, different animation and is much far behind on “class identity” than any other class in the game. But that is “stealing aswell”
You would do much better if you drop the narrative on stolen property and bring to light the current situations on your class synergies involving other players to get your point across and provide proper feedback to get your desired change. Otherwise you will most likely be ignored.
Because 44 ult for you and up to 3 group members is definatly not better than 10ultimate for yourself..... And I am sure if zos made an abilty that allows you to teleport a certain distance while stunning enemies you port through that sorcs would have no problem.... Now give that ability minor protection on top of that and sorcs will be chilled right? Also as stated nbs lack a lot of group utility.... This seems like something that would have been super nice for nbs as group utility but sadly it is off the board now.... And yes a lot of nbs are complaining about group utility and I have seen nothing that inidcates zos is gonna buff nbs any time over the last 2 years.... Hell they acidentally ended up nerfing nbs last patch and had to do a quick fix update to keep the class from completely dying
Edit:spelling
But nightblades can also wear the set and gain the benefit from both their passive and the set. No other class can do that. So nothing is taken.
Yeah but the issue is still that nbs still lacks group utility and even if mbs wear this set in grouos situations other classes will bring more utility by wesring this set plis for example sorc negate or necro colluses etc.... Meaning this set helps other classes more than it does nbs
Strange post, why would you even compare ulti gaining passive(and the NB passive is 20 btw) to 5 set bonus in terms of power?
And if anything, If I will decide to go hard into the potion drinking mechanism and reduce potion CD to 30 sec, wouldn't it be better for a NB to wear this set? This way I can double dip the value of my investment.
Your logic is false from all possible directions. Even if NB do have an issue with group utility, it got nothing to do with this set.
Once again trying to point out how similar this set is to nb passive wich btw can only be activated after 60 seconds unless you got enchants to reduce potion cooldown. This effect of giving you and up to 3 allies ult would have worked so well for nbs instead of having the just gaining ult for yourself passive nbs have thus giving nbs at least some utility from their class
Base potion CD is 45 sec not 60.
My point exactly, the similar effect make it so that it synergies with NB passive. As a NB, you should be happy. You have double the reason to go with 2 reduce potion cool-down. This is a good thing, not a bad one.
Asking for a buff to NB passive is something that should not be related to this set.
Yes it synergyses well but you are missing the point of nbs lacking class utility... If I am out on my own having this plus the passivr will be nice yes but in any group scenario I would rather want any other class run this set than nb because they bring their own class synergy amd then this set on top of it where nbs would be only this set... Meaning you can replace the nb without losing anything..... Thus I think it woulf be better if the nb passive was changed to this instead of giving it to a set because in that case nb can have at least some group utility even if it is just to be a ult gen bot for the necro, warden, sorc etc.Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on July 12, 2020 4:02PM0 -
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✭✭They do have class utility. Unfortunately, it's only useful in stamina-heavy group compositions.0 -
Kittytravel✭✭✭✭✭The new set is rather nice for NB healers because it means they can keep Warhorn up even more often with their double dipping and healers it seems is who this set is geared towards from what I've seen of it. If anything it'd be a preference to have them adjust the Soul Harvest morph of Death Stroke from it's current "Gain 10 ultimate when you kill an enemy." to "Gain 2 ultimate when an enemy you damage in last 2 seconds dies."
That'd make Nightblades in general have a nifty buff and comes with the choice of ultimate gen VS resource regen. It'd technically be a nerf to the PvP side of things but overall I think it'd still be a healthy addition to the classes capabilities.
After all "Nightblades not having a lot of group utility" is still iffy because aside from alchemy poisons we are the only class with access to Minor Savagery afaik and group wide at that point. If anything the only other thing I'd want to add to the NB support kit to differentiate us is a group wide Minor Evasion buff that activates whenever we cast a shadow ability; as it would fit thematically with the class and give us another unique bonus that only NBs bring. After all no one is going to turn down a free 10% AOE damage reduction. It's something that could easily be added as part of "Dark Veil".2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭i think this could maybe be a coold build option for nightblades? together with clever alchemist maybe? insta ulti0 -
SshadowSscale✭✭✭✭✭Nemesis7884 wrote: »i think this could maybe be a coold build option for nightblades? together with clever alchemist maybe? insta ulti
Yoy are only thinking about solo playstyles while I am talkimg abouy group and I have a feelling that the necro/warden/sorc ba groups are gonna abuse the hell out of this set.... And they do not need nbs to abuse this set since they can pop it onto a necro for example and get this sets bonus on top of the major vulnrability and aoe defile if stamcro otherwise harmony bomb on magcro.......why would you lose out on any of the class utiliy to make space for a nb wich brings nothing to your group except for this sets bonus when you might as well slap this set on another class and get their class group utility and this set?1 -
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✭what I'm more curious about is why they gave the effecr a 30 second cooldown. Even with two people in the group using the set it doesn't work well.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭SshadowSscale wrote: »Nemesis7884 wrote: »i think this could maybe be a coold build option for nightblades? together with clever alchemist maybe? insta ulti
Yoy are only thinking about solo playstyles while I am talkimg abouy group and I have a feelling that the necro/warden/sorc ba groups are gonna abuse the hell out of this set.... And they do not need nbs to abuse this set since they can pop it onto a necro for example and get this sets bonus on top of the major vulnrability and aoe defile if stamcro otherwise harmony bomb on magcro.......why would you lose out on any of the class utiliy to make space for a nb wich brings nothing to your group except for this sets bonus when you might as well slap this set on another class and get their class group utility and this set?
how about master architect and war machine in combination...then you give your group lots of ult and constant maj slayer that could be cool0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭what I'm more curious about is why they gave the effecr a 30 second cooldown. Even with two people in the group using the set it doesn't work well.
It’s likely to encourage the use of potion speed glyphs. I believe 3 of those would reduce the potion cooldown to 30s. A build like that would also synergize very nicely with Argonian and Nightblade, and could even be paired with Clever Alchemist. Sounds pretty fun tbh.2 -
Xologamer✭✭✭✭[snip] Nothing is stolen. Nobody has your class passives and every set in the game provides passives which are “stolen from every other classes” quoting your words.
Is having a set that gives major brutality/major sorcery stealing identity from weapon skills lines?
Having sets with major protection stealing from wardens and necromancers?
Having a skill that allows you to run for 3 seconds to become invisible stealing a class skill that allows you to stealth immediately? There is not one single class or set that can allow you to do what a nightblade does. And if there is a similar set it certainly does not function better.
I see more infuriating posts from nightblades than constructive criticism posts. It could be easier to cater if you weren’t complaining about things that doesn’t even correlate to the state of class balance as these sets are available to everyone.... regardless of class. Same as vampire which at the moment people aren’t even taken advantage of.
Stamina sorcerer finally got a small change to an ability that favors nightblades’ spectral bow which does significantly less damage, different animation and is much far behind on “class identity” than any other class in the game. But that is “stealing aswell”
You would do much better if you drop the narrative on stolen property and bring to light the current situations on your class synergies involving other players to get your point across and provide proper feedback to get your desired change. Otherwise you will most likely be ignored.
NB is already from the balancing pretty trash and seeing more thinks taken from nb to everyone doesnt helpEdited by ZOS_ConnorG on July 12, 2020 4:03PM1 -
SshadowSscale✭✭✭✭✭what I'm more curious about is why they gave the effecr a 30 second cooldown. Even with two people in the group using the set it doesn't work well.
If you use infused jewelry with reduce potion cooldown glyps you can get your potions down to like 5 seconds cooldwon or something stupud like that.... Now imagine somoene spamming potion every 5 seconds giving himself and 3 group members 44 ult every 5 seconds.... That is why I think zos added the 30 sec cooldown1 -
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✭✭✭✭SshadowSscale wrote: »what I'm more curious about is why they gave the effecr a 30 second cooldown. Even with two people in the group using the set it doesn't work well.
If you use infused jewelry with reduce potion cooldown glyps you can get your potions down to like 5 seconds cooldwon or something stupud like that.... Now imagine somoene spamming potion every 5 seconds giving himself and 3 group members 44 ult every 5 seconds.... That is why I think zos added the 30 sec cooldown
5 seconds?? I thought it was 23, or something like that. 3x without Infused lowers cooldown by 15 seconds from what it otherwise would have been. Infused boosts that by 30%, so perhaps 22.5 seconds, which fits pretty well with my belief that default potion cooldown is 45 seconds.
One thread says 21 seconds as of a couple of years ago. I don't know what may have changed since then. https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/425464/potion-cooldowns-and-infused
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Saubon✭✭✭WrathOfInnos wrote: »what I'm more curious about is why they gave the effecr a 30 second cooldown. Even with two people in the group using the set it doesn't work well.
It’s likely to encourage the use of potion speed glyphs. I believe 3 of those would reduce the potion cooldown to 30s. A build like that would also synergize very nicely with Argonian and Nightblade, and could even be paired with Clever Alchemist. Sounds pretty fun tbh.
Potion CD is 30 seconds with 3x speed pot glyphs, 21 seconds on infused jewelry (so it will desynch with infused jewelry I use on my PVE argonian tankblade)1 -
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✭✭✭✭what I'm more curious about is why they gave the effecr a 30 second cooldown. Even with two people in the group using the set it doesn't work well.
Is the cooldown for the set wearer or the buff getter? If it's the former, then stack a few of these sets in a group and you have double casts of heavy ultimates, group-wide. All the more lethal if Balorgh stacks with itself.
Imagine, for example, a small squadron of DK bombers, casting Magma Shell followed by Leap. 
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Celestro✭✭✭Am I the only one that noticed the Divines trait says 9.1% there versus 7.5%? I'm a tiny bit nervous on why that is the case.Edited by Celestro on July 10, 2020 12:47PM1
