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What u think about rewards' for so long maintenance?

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  • RoninMB
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    The only reward I want is a game that works.
  • joerginger
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    frogpog wrote: »
    joerginger wrote: »
    They never give anything, so even asking is just a waste of time and effort.

    So you think ZOS don't want to care about its community?

    Of course not. They only care about the content of our wallets. This is becoming increasingly more obvious with everything they do and even more with everything they fail to do.
  • Daemons_Bane
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    joerginger wrote: »
    frogpog wrote: »
    joerginger wrote: »
    They never give anything, so even asking is just a waste of time and effort.

    So you think ZOS don't want to care about its community?

    Of course not. They only care about the content of our wallets. This is becoming increasingly more obvious with everything they do and even more with everything they fail to do.

    It's a company.. Of course the wallet is their main priority
  • BWS2K
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    For my two cents:

    My internet speed here is ridiculous. I literally spend days downloading and updating this game. When the weather's good, it's about a gigabyte per hour... when the ISP isn't throttling and if no one is checking e-mail. I have cultivated patience regarding my ability to play ESO. That said...

    Sometimes I lose power during a storm. I don't call the electric company to ask about compensation. I've had my water cut out because the mains were being worked on. I didn't call the town to ask about compensation. I lose internet very, very frequently. I don't expect compensation from my ISP. Occasionally we lose hot water because the furnace is being worked on. I don't ask for compensation for that either.

    Planet Earth is literally experiencing a pandemic the likes of which most now living have never seen before. It's up to us to take care of each other and help out as best we can. It's not required or expected because it's just what you should be doing if you want to be a part of a community. No one will kick you out of the community if you don't, probably, but everyone will know where your loyalty and values lay in the future should you choose to refrain. With that as a backdrop, what possible reason does a video gamer have to ask compensation from a company who runs a 24/7 MMO when the reason for the delay given is literally that they are working on it? Would you prefer they not work on it? Seems odd.

    Furthermore, if general decent behavior seems unreasonable, and you feel somehow entitled because you pay for a subscription, consider - it's in the Terms of Service:

    ZeniMax does not guarantee that any Services will be accessible or available at all times, in all countries and/or all geographic locations, at any given time, or that ZeniMax will continue to offer any particular Services for any particular length of time. (1st sentence of section 6)
  • frogpog
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    joerginger wrote: »
    frogpog wrote: »
    joerginger wrote: »
    They never give anything, so even asking is just a waste of time and effort.

    So you think ZOS don't want to care about its community?

    Of course not. They only care about the content of our wallets. This is becoming increasingly more obvious with everything they do and even more with everything they fail to do.

    So you think we should accept it? And enjoy such a long technical work? :D
    KWA KWA MAN IN KWA KWA LIFE
  • ghost_bg_ESO
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    i don't think reward is proper word
    some companies give bonus items for caused inconvenience
    and even if don't need or don't care for this items it feels better than just simple "sorry for inconvenience"
  • Dovakhan
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    What I'd like is some reward for not being able to do dungeons, trials, arenas or BG's ever since Greymoor came out.

    I'd be happy with 50 Transmute Crystals at least, which was my stated goal before the game freezes started.
  • RodneyRegis
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    Can I be compensated for having to read these threads every week?
  • frogpog
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    BWS2K wrote: »
    For my two cents:

    My internet speed here is ridiculous. I literally spend days downloading and updating this game. When the weather's good, it's about a gigabyte per hour... when the ISP isn't throttling and if no one is checking e-mail. I have cultivated patience regarding my ability to play ESO. That said...

    Sometimes I lose power during a storm. I don't call the electric company to ask about compensation. I've had my water cut out because the mains were being worked on. I didn't call the town to ask about compensation. I lose internet very, very frequently. I don't expect compensation from my ISP. Occasionally we lose hot water because the furnace is being worked on. I don't ask for compensation for that either.

    Planet Earth is literally experiencing a pandemic the likes of which most now living have never seen before. It's up to us to take care of each other and help out as best we can. It's not required or expected because it's just what you should be doing if you want to be a part of a community. No one will kick you out of the community if you don't, probably, but everyone will know where your loyalty and values lay in the future should you choose to refrain. With that as a backdrop, what possible reason does a video gamer have to ask compensation from a company who runs a 24/7 MMO when the reason for the delay given is literally that they are working on it? Would you prefer they not work on it? Seems odd.

    Furthermore, if general decent behavior seems unreasonable, and you feel somehow entitled because you pay for a subscription, consider - it's in the Terms of Service:

    ZeniMax does not guarantee that any Services will be accessible or available at all times, in all countries and/or all geographic locations, at any given time, or that ZeniMax will continue to offer any particular Services for any particular length of time. (1st sentence of section 6)

    One thing is unforeseen circumstances with which you can not fight, and another thing is this, which has become commonplace. And please note why the NA server with this all right. Don't you think that's strange?
    KWA KWA MAN IN KWA KWA LIFE
  • frogpog
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    Dovakhan wrote: »
    What I'd like is some reward for not being able to do dungeons, trials, arenas or BG's ever since Greymoor came out.

    I'd be happy with 50 Transmute Crystals at least, which was my stated goal before the game freezes started.

    That's what I'm talking about. I'm not saying we get paid mountains of gold. But at least some small consolation rewards could be implemented I think.
    KWA KWA MAN IN KWA KWA LIFE
  • frogpog
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    RodneyRegis wrote: »
    Can I be compensated for having to read these threads every week?

    You can make a separate theme. Thanks. :)
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  • SolidusPrime
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    frogpog wrote: »
    SolidusPrime wrote: »
    I mean if they want to offer something, OK. But I'm not expecting it nor demanding it. *** happens and it hasn't even been that long.

    Also this is in the user agreement:

    "6. AVAILABILITY OF SERVICES AND CONTENT; GAME MAINTENANCE, PATCHES, UPDATES; TERMINATION OF SERVICES

    ZeniMax does not guarantee that any Services will be accessible or available at all times, in all countries and/or all geographic locations, at any given time, or that ZeniMax will continue to offer any particular Services for any particular length of time."

    So you wouldn't have reacted in any way if ESO hadn't been available for a month, for example? :D Would you like that? :D

    It hasn't even been 24 hours. Let's not be so dramatic just yet :). If it stays down for a month I will re-evaluate my position but ultimately we agreed to those terms so...
  • NoXHealeR
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    I think that 700 crowns for every maintenance should be fine
  • frogpog
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    SolidusPrime wrote: »
    frogpog wrote: »
    SolidusPrime wrote: »
    I mean if they want to offer something, OK. But I'm not expecting it nor demanding it. *** happens and it hasn't even been that long.

    Also this is in the user agreement:

    "6. AVAILABILITY OF SERVICES AND CONTENT; GAME MAINTENANCE, PATCHES, UPDATES; TERMINATION OF SERVICES

    ZeniMax does not guarantee that any Services will be accessible or available at all times, in all countries and/or all geographic locations, at any given time, or that ZeniMax will continue to offer any particular Services for any particular length of time."

    So you wouldn't have reacted in any way if ESO hadn't been available for a month, for example? :D Would you like that? :D

    It hasn't even been 24 hours. Let's not be so dramatic just yet :). If it stays down for a month I will re-evaluate my position but ultimately we agreed to those terms so...

    We? I don't really agree with that. :p
    KWA KWA MAN IN KWA KWA LIFE
  • Asardes
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    On EU-PC the reward for long maintenance is usually more, unplanned, maintenance later that day. Not that the fact it is in the middle of the day here matters. They're a joke.
    Beta tester since February 2014, played ESO-TU October 2015 - August 2022, currently on an extended break
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  • Gythral
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    I want only one reward
    a solution to the problem!

    but it'll never happen...
    “Be as a tower, that, firmly set,
    Shakes not its top for any blast that blows!”
    Dante Alighieri, The Divine Comedy
  • Galwylin
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    Probably unpopular but I don't believe rewards should be given for extended maintenance. Now I like free stuff as much as the next guy but people have to accept that sometimes things go wrong in the online world and when they do they don't need to apologize for it through rewards. One reason is the old why are you complaining, you got this minor thing. Now if its something like the Sony hack where they need to entice people back. But a day's maintenance is nothing. I think WOW was down three days once and they're pretty good at this stuff. It just happens sometimes and there's no reason to be upset over it.

    *I'm not exactly happy either*
  • Eldartar
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    frogpog wrote: »
    What u think about rewards' for so long maintenance? It's strange for me wait all day instead of 3 hours and and get nothing in return. What you think all about it?
    PS: This post is not for inciting swearing. Only constructive and adequate answers please :)

    I read this twice, just to be sure. Is it April 1st? or are you drunk or high or both? What makes you think you are entitled to anything? You had to wait to play a game for more than 3 hours!! Oh the injustice of it, will you now need to have therapy?

    It never ceases to amaze me how entitled some people seem to think they are.

    You seriously need to get out more. :)
  • Katheriah
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    DTAmoral wrote: »
    Do you get a reward when there is road construction for weeks?

    Actually. I live close to a road that was under construction and I got a coupon to pick up flowers.
  • frogpog
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    Asardes wrote: »
    On EU-PC the reward for long maintenance is usually more, unplanned, maintenance later that day. Not that the fact it is in the middle of the day here matters. They're a joke.

    Aaah. So this is the thanks we get? Then I'm sorry :D (joke)
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  • Thechuckage
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    frogpog wrote: »
    joerginger wrote: »
    They never give anything, so even asking is just a waste of time and effort.

    So you think ZOS don't want to care about its community?

    Based on past experiences, not anymore they dont.
  • frogpog
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    Eldartar wrote: »
    frogpog wrote: »
    What u think about rewards' for so long maintenance? It's strange for me wait all day instead of 3 hours and and get nothing in return. What you think all about it?
    PS: This post is not for inciting swearing. Only constructive and adequate answers please :)

    I read this twice, just to be sure. Is it April 1st? or are you drunk or high or both? What makes you think you are entitled to anything? You had to wait to play a game for more than 3 hours!! Oh the injustice of it, will you now need to have therapy?

    It never ceases to amaze me how entitled some people seem to think they are.

    You seriously need to get out more. :)

    Thank you for taking care. But many people are of the same opinion as you see. I will explain my position: I do not demand a billion crowns or anything else. I just wish there was something more than just "Sorry" over the years. Every such technical work only pushes away from the project. I would like more understanding on the part of developers can smooth these points.
    KWA KWA MAN IN KWA KWA LIFE
  • frogpog
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    Thechuckage wrote: »
    frogpog wrote: »
    joerginger wrote: »
    They never give anything, so even asking is just a waste of time and effort.

    So you think ZOS don't want to care about its community?

    Based on past experiences, not anymore they dont.

    Then I think with this approach, interest in the project will only fall from many people. This is also not very good for the company in financial terms.
    KWA KWA MAN IN KWA KWA LIFE
  • gepe87
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    Because ToS.
    Gepe, Dunmer MagSorc Pact Grand Overlord | Gaepe, Bosmer MagSorc Dominion General

    If you see edits on my replies: typos. English isn't my main language
  • SolidusPrime
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    Del plz
    Edited by SolidusPrime on June 24, 2020 5:44PM
  • FierceSam
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    Only ‘reward’ I care about is ZOS getting their act together and sorting this out.

    It happens

    - every Event
    - almost every maintenance
    - every Patch

    Nothing they have done has fixed this and they are now revising the gameplay to adapt to their poor servers

    Maybe Google can give them the bollocking they so richly deserve and push them into action
  • frogpog
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    Who wants to continue? I hope ZOS will finish today's tech work. And they will reconsider their attitude to the players in this regard. :o
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  • Daemons_Bane
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    frogpog wrote: »
    SolidusPrime wrote: »
    frogpog wrote: »
    SolidusPrime wrote: »
    I mean if they want to offer something, OK. But I'm not expecting it nor demanding it. *** happens and it hasn't even been that long.

    Also this is in the user agreement:

    "6. AVAILABILITY OF SERVICES AND CONTENT; GAME MAINTENANCE, PATCHES, UPDATES; TERMINATION OF SERVICES

    ZeniMax does not guarantee that any Services will be accessible or available at all times, in all countries and/or all geographic locations, at any given time, or that ZeniMax will continue to offer any particular Services for any particular length of time."

    So you wouldn't have reacted in any way if ESO hadn't been available for a month, for example? :D Would you like that? :D

    It hasn't even been 24 hours. Let's not be so dramatic just yet :). If it stays down for a month I will re-evaluate my position but ultimately we agreed to those terms so...

    We? I don't really agree with that. :p

    Yes, you agreed to this.. If you didn't, you have not even been playing
  • Ciana_Rilian
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    Daemons_Bane wrote: »
    frogpog wrote: »
    SolidusPrime wrote: »
    frogpog wrote: »
    SolidusPrime wrote: »
    I mean if they want to offer something, OK. But I'm not expecting it nor demanding it. *** happens and it hasn't even been that long.

    Also this is in the user agreement:

    "6. AVAILABILITY OF SERVICES AND CONTENT; GAME MAINTENANCE, PATCHES, UPDATES; TERMINATION OF SERVICES

    ZeniMax does not guarantee that any Services will be accessible or available at all times, in all countries and/or all geographic locations, at any given time, or that ZeniMax will continue to offer any particular Services for any particular length of time."

    So you wouldn't have reacted in any way if ESO hadn't been available for a month, for example? :D Would you like that? :D

    It hasn't even been 24 hours. Let's not be so dramatic just yet :). If it stays down for a month I will re-evaluate my position but ultimately we agreed to those terms so...

    We? I don't really agree with that. :p

    Yes, you agreed to this.. If you didn't, you have not even been playing

    ToS, the green card for providing *** service.
  • Daemons_Bane
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    Ciana_Rilian wrote: »
    Daemons_Bane wrote: »
    frogpog wrote: »
    SolidusPrime wrote: »
    frogpog wrote: »
    SolidusPrime wrote: »
    I mean if they want to offer something, OK. But I'm not expecting it nor demanding it. *** happens and it hasn't even been that long.

    Also this is in the user agreement:

    "6. AVAILABILITY OF SERVICES AND CONTENT; GAME MAINTENANCE, PATCHES, UPDATES; TERMINATION OF SERVICES

    ZeniMax does not guarantee that any Services will be accessible or available at all times, in all countries and/or all geographic locations, at any given time, or that ZeniMax will continue to offer any particular Services for any particular length of time."

    So you wouldn't have reacted in any way if ESO hadn't been available for a month, for example? :D Would you like that? :D

    It hasn't even been 24 hours. Let's not be so dramatic just yet :). If it stays down for a month I will re-evaluate my position but ultimately we agreed to those terms so...

    We? I don't really agree with that. :p

    Yes, you agreed to this.. If you didn't, you have not even been playing

    ToS, the green card for providing *** service.

    No one forces you to agree
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