Who needs a buff?

Qbiken

Stamblade

Stamblade/Magblade:

Remove the cast time on their ultimates tyvm.

Nairinhe

Stamblade

Because my main is stamblade and I'm not good enough XD

nihoumab14_ESO

MagDk

MagDK healers could use some love. They offer nothing unique from a healing perspective (that's actually beneficial from a healing perspective), especially when compared to other healers (sorc and NB also lack anything dedicated to provide as a healer and also deserve some love in that regard). Wardens provide minor toughness, minor intellect and minor endurance, and have a pretty strong and very cheap healing ult, on top of just having amazing healing skills in general. Templars provide additional resource return to your lesser stat with shards, a synergy to remove debuffs, and a powerful but still cheap healing ult. Necromancers can cleanse negative effects from allies when consuming corpses, additional resistances when using the burst heal, and an ultimate that can instantly resurrect multiple allies (though it is expensive, necros can generate that ult fairly quickly with their passives and abilities).

DKs bring a very small radius aoe hot that is expensive, but hey it has a 70% snare attached to it. They have a burst heal that does heal 2 targets, but requires an enemy to be hit to use it. Molten weapons is considered useless by many since good players will already get those buffs directly from pots or another source. And fragmented shield can be contentious to use since it can overwrite relatively beefy shields with your own puny shields because it only scales on max health. Also, our only healer-ish ult affects a small area for the shield it provides to allies, and provides no visual indicator for how far out the shield radius went, unlike Barrier, which usually provides better shields AND gives you magicka recovery due to passives, which you'll probably need since DK healer sustain is worthless, as all your sustain is baked into dealing flame damage or casting ults). That is probably why obsidian shard deals (minimal) damage to enemies, but the (minimal) sustain that provides isn't worth the hassle of having to cast it on an enemy, which sometimes may not be visible for you to heal your ally.

DK healers are frustrating because their kit is inconsistent and lacks usefulness outside raw healing (and isn't even necessarily the best thing there). The only good thing about them is that they look cool because they're dragon knights.

Drdeath20

Magplar

BeamsForDemacia wrote: »

@Drdeath20 i dunno in which Groups u are but from what i see magplars are and have always been very welcome in almost all raid Groups, last patch they were not bis cuz dk was stronger but atm they are def close/even and 4d also had runs with plars

Groups i run in are usually composed of (depending on the trial)

Sorc tank
Dk tank

Warden healer
Templar healer

3 magcro dps
5 magblade dps

Sometimes 4 magblade dps and a magsorc dps.

Just getting the clear is one thing but for score runs it looks something like this

zvavi

Templar tank.

EvilAutoTech

Carrymancers and wardens

When I read the title, my first thought was Oprah?

It seemed as if the OP was handing buffs out to anyone who asked.

You get a buff, and you get a buff. Everybody gets a buff.


Maybe I need more sleep.

Lord-Otto

Magblade

Stamblade has the advantage of being stam, which performs better overall in PvP. Magblade doesn't have this advantage and is just really awful at the moment.

ImSoPro

Carrymancers? Good joke

technohic

Other

Stamcro. Just don't have enough mitigation or stacked heals these days. And burst is terrible. You cant even face tank more than a handful of players anymore. :'( Feels bad man.

preevious

Magsorc

Because it's the class I play.

You see, now, the shortcomings of such a poll?

Cerbolt

Magblade

Magblade definitely needs some help. It just feels so underwhelming compared to the other classes

Ladislao

Stamblade

preevious wrote: »

Because it's the class I play.

You see, now, the shortcomings of such a poll?

I do not play nightblades but I feel they lack of both identity and perfomance.

ZeroXFF

Magplar

Templar tanks tbh. Templars are the only class that has no access to a reliable HP% heal, making them have to balance between survival, offensive and sustain stats, while other classes can focus on survival and sustain entirely, making the resulting builds both stronger and easier to create.

Voted magplar, because that's the other job of my templar, and tankplar wasn't an option.

Vevvev

Other

Vampire

A bunch of utility skills, a terrible heal, and a stun with the worst set of rules doesn't make for a fun playstyle.

JinMori

Other

They all need something, some classes more than others.

I am not one for this "buff this nerf that", every class should get improvements. But i'm not expecting anything from zos.

preevious

Magsorc

Ladislao wrote: »

preevious wrote: »

Because it's the class I play.

You see, now, the shortcomings of such a poll?

I do not play nightblades but I feel they lack of both identity and perfomance.

Absolutely !

But the fact that you're one of the honnest ones doesn't cover people who are just there to preach to their own church.

That's why ZoS teams do not take them into account. Because they'll obviously be quite biased.

Karmanorway

Stamsorc

Noxavian wrote: »

Karmanorway wrote: »

And why?

Magcro isn't strong.

Im not sure where you got this assumption from.

Well u know... Just the impression i got all the times it says Graver Robber 45k damage in death recap 🤷‍♂️

Knightpanther

Magsorc

My Twilight needs a buff, she says she cant one shot NB's.

Be seriously BUFF THE F'IN SERVERS!

Karmanorway

Stamsorc

finehair wrote: »

Seems like no one even remembers stamsorcs are a thing in this game lol.
And it has less votes than magsorc hahahahahahahahahahahaha

IKR 😂 In a whole day If i go to BGs or cyro, i will maybe meet 3 - 6 stamsorcs at most, in a whole day lol

Dracane

Magsorc

Karmanorway wrote: »

finehair wrote: »

Seems like no one even remembers stamsorcs are a thing in this game lol.
And it has less votes than magsorc hahahahahahahahahahahaha

IKR 😂 In a whole day If i go to BGs or cyro, i will maybe meet 3 - 6 stamsorcs at most, in a whole day lol

Feel free to visit no CP Imperial City some time. Stamina Sorcerer is the meta class here. Here you see how truly ridiculous this spec is when all the whining grows silent.

You will see plenty of stamina nightblades, but also packs of stamina sorcerers tearing everything to shreds. You just look at the few stamina class morphs it has and think its bad. But its power lies in this simplicity and efficience.

Karmanorway

Stamsorc

Dracane wrote: »

Karmanorway wrote: »

finehair wrote: »

Seems like no one even remembers stamsorcs are a thing in this game lol.
And it has less votes than magsorc hahahahahahahahahahahaha

IKR 😂 In a whole day If i go to BGs or cyro, i will maybe meet 3 - 6 stamsorcs at most, in a whole day lol

Feel free to visit no CP Imperial City some time. Stamina Sorcerer is the meta class here. Here you see how truly ridiculous this spec is when all the whining grows silent.

You will see plenty of stamina nightblades, but also packs of stamina sorcerers tearing everything to shreds. You just look at the few stamina class morphs it has and think its bad. But its power lies in this simplicity and efficience.

I will admit i never go to noCP IC, so i wouldnt know i will definately go there and see If this is true. Stamsorc IS bad, you of all ppl should know that. I mean GO and magsorc, no coincidence u stuck with the mag version so long 😊

lucky_Sage

Other

I think both stam and mag templars are in a great spot both pvp and pve
dk cost are high and most passives are out of date and need reworked and stamdk needs a melee spammable not a awkward melee mid range thing. magdk don't feel like a melee battle mage bruiser like they should unless you build for burst and high dmg wont ever kill anyone. dots need a buff about 10 to 20% or give a class execute.
stamsorc should get a little more from the kit like the unused more of stam atro and give a air atro and the unused frags and make it a melee to mid range frontal cone aoe proc like the crystal fragment morph and unused morph of class. magsorcs could use some work in non pet pve builds but other than that pretty solid
I don't know much about wardens but I wish the frost tree was the dmg line id really love to play a frost mage
don't know to much about nightblade but both stam and mag needs something don't know what it is outside of dueling magblades are lacking some.
necros tethers need to work better my suggestion is to have blastbones leave a corps on target to tether straight on enemy
I really wish death scythe was a singe target spammable because it feels really nice to use but is way to weak to make use of it.

DTStormfox

Carrymancers and wardens

From a PvP perspective, I think Magicka Warden and Stamina Necromancer could use some love.

Karmanorway

Stamsorc

DTStormfox wrote: »

From a PvP perspective, I think Magicka Warden and Stamina Necromancer could use some love.

Well thats interesting, what were you thinking about in particular? 😊

deLioncourt

StamDk

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

Both mag & stam really. Stam NB is curently worst stam variant class, and mag NB is curently worst mag variant class.

I can not think of other class, ever in eso's updates history that was worst both in mag & stam at the same time.

mega wrong

BeamsForDemacia

MagDk

@Drdeath20 i like that ur score pushing Group doesnt have a mag dk xD strongest class last patch, blades are and were bis in asylum but thats it in every other Trial u have u can have other classes , as alr mentioned mag dk got nerfed and other classes got even with him , but no Group goes 5 blades

Fur_like_snow

Stamsorc

Without more active damage skills/passives from their class line it’s just a worse version of all the other stam classes.

Drdeath20

Magplar

BeamsForDemacia wrote: »

@Drdeath20 i like that ur score pushing Group doesnt have a mag dk xD strongest class last patch, blades are and were bis in asylum but thats it in every other Trial u have u can have other classes , as alr mentioned mag dk got nerfed and other classes got even with him , but no Group goes 5 blades

I cannot tell if your being argumentative, sarcastic or just making a statement. The way you have worded your statement is too in the middle.

Again you can run any combo off toons in a trial and get the clear and even get a decent score but in a committed prog socre group there is a BiS.

Like i have started off my original post. I feel that almost every class has a spec or area that is laughably inferior and in need of some love. Like a DK healer or a templar tank etc.

I am under the belief that every class should have potential to have 2 of the 3 roles. While a magplar can crack 80 on a dummy the channel of jesus beam is extremely undesirable for most dlc trials. Take a fairly easy execute in sunspire, the dragon is stationary but at the same time drops meteors or stuns the group, a channel just does not fair well there. That is alot of lost dps that affects a godslayer prog as opposed to just getting the decent score. the buff templars offer minor sorcery or minor fracture (stamplar) can be given by 1 healer. While a test dummy might show 1 thing when tested out in the field it can tell a much different story.

Im positive you believe other classes/specs deserve a buff aswell and i will agree with ya there. If you do not think a magplar needs just a little push to be a equal DD than please i am all ears.

Rahar

Other

Where's the option to get the devs to buff performance?

xXMeowMeowXx

Other

Bergzorn wrote: »

Me. Thanks for asking!

No No No No me first OwO

also, I want this dress so very much \../ https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj2miRJ6bZs