NO MORE CHANGES BEING MADE TO VAMPIRE. THIS IS HOW IT WILL LAUNCH.

Varana

Jeremy wrote: »

Players have always dismissed the added fire damage weaknesses on live as insignificant for some reason and I'll never understand why. The truth is it's a a real weakness and one that can ruin your day against the right opponent. My only guess is there is a website or streamer somewhere that says it's not a big deal so everyone just believes it.

Again, I assume part of the reason is the PvE/PvP divide. The only places I bother reducing my vampirism stage to 2 or so, are vBRP, Siroria and Yolnahkriin, and maybe a no-death run if fire is involved. The rest can be healed through comfortably.

I understand that many forum discussions are coming from a PvP perspective. But the "vampirism is free regen" stance is much more pronounced in PvE.

Jayroo

They never change PTS in any meaningful way in the last week before launch so why is everyone surprised? Every-time they do something like this it goes through to live [snip]

Ima just play the vamp to try it out and if I like it I'll play it and if I don't I won't. pretty simple.
I've been playing werewolf [snip]

[edited for baiting]

Marcus_Thracius

First time I went on pts thinking to myself that I will report bugs ,give feedback and they will listen ...
This will be the last time I go on pts to do that!
And what they did on the stream on twitch the other day ..... what a wonderfull age we live in
Oh deer

ZOS_Lunar

Greetings! As a heads up, we've removed some posts from this thread due to baiting.

We understand that everyone has their own opinions they want to express, but we also want the forums to be a constructive platform for ESO and its community. If a discussion gets heated and turns into a debate, remember that you should stick to debating the post and/or thread topic.

JWillCHS

Sephyr wrote: »

For the people who like the new vampirism, I'd like to ask the following (no shade or anything, I legit want to see it from a different PoV)

• How are you personally engaging with the line in regards to managing Stages and feeding?
• Do you have abilities that you feel pairs well with your class's (as well as your character's) identity/aesthetic?
• What do you do about the stall times in your Blood Scion form if you use it?
• If you use Fury/Frenzy, how do you manage the health cost?
• If you're running Stage 4, how are you managing your -100% health recovery? Do you use sets that give you healing that isn't through health regen (if so, which)? Class heals (if so, which)?
• What parts of the rework do you find personally engaging and rewarding? Note: That's not about the passives.
• Do you find vampirism engages well with the Justice System and if so, how are you engaging in it?

The new spammable works well on my magplar. It gives some interesting burst potential as oppose to the channeling effect of sweeps(which still can hit hard). But sweeps can help sustain health that's being lost from vampire abilities like Fury. I also like the way Mist form works as a toggle. The new stun is weird because it really isn't guaranteed against player characters. The new vamp drain isn't really effective in my opinion and the transformation is sooooo expensive.

At least for me the only issue I have with Stage 4 is the fire damage but I can mitigate everything else. Vampire is something I still want to experiment with.

Lotus781

Deathlord92 wrote: »

ManwithBeard9 wrote: »

Jaimeh wrote: »

ManwithBeard9 wrote: »

Jaimeh wrote: »

I'm really bummed they're keeping cost increase on stage 1. This will effectively render all my stamina vamps not only useless but detrimental as well, because they only had the skill line for the regen passive, and although I'm very fond of the look, and grown used to it, I'll have to sadly cure them.

And that is one of the main reasons ZOS is making the changes. The benefit from the passives far outweighed any negatives.

@ManwithBeard9 I don't know if you understood what I wrote, but I am not lamenting the loss of the passive, but the fact I will have to cure vamprism on my stam toons, since I will have no use for the skill line, and I am saddened by this, since I love the look on them.

More or less a general statement. Too many people want the benefits without and risk and now that it's being changed are throwing a hissy fit, not saying you are. But what is funny is that you LIKE the vamp look when I mainly see people wanting to hide it.

Not everyone hates the vampire look i to love the look of vampire in fact I spend most of my time at stage 1

Me to

Rovaeden

ZOS_RachelM wrote: »

Greetings! As a heads up, we've removed some posts from this thread due to baiting.

We understand that everyone has their own opinions they want to express, but we also want the forums to be a constructive platform for ESO and its community. If a discussion gets heated and turns into a debate, remember that you should stick to debating the post and/or thread topic.

Good thing ZOS can take the time out for censorship but not to actually acknowledge the displeasure of their paying customers.

Zabulus

Cerbolt wrote: »

Hope they're ready for the *** storm that's coming when this hits live lol

There wont be any storm ... They will just lost players ...
For the first time, im' not buying the xpack and no more eso+ since a week ...
I dont expect others to do like me ... In facts it's over now, i don't care anymore.