Ilambris Clarification

  • martijnlv40
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    itsfatbass wrote: »
    Previously, you could proc the lightning or fire portions of Ilambris SEPARATELY (you could have a fire proc going on in location and lightning in the other). Now, they're tied together and when one procs, both will. It's a buff imo.

    No, that’s not how it works on PTS. If you proc the Lightning, still only the Lightning meteor shower appears, but both the Lightning and Fire go on cooldown for 8s. You cannot have both effects simultaneously, and you cannot even proc one after 5s (when the effect ends), you must wait the full 8s even between different elemental procs.

    With Elf Bane, fire portion has duration of 10 seconds and cooldown of 8. If you manage to proc the lightning portion just after the cooldown ended, you have both fire and lightning going at the same time. :trollface:

    The set went from a quite niche set, except for magsorcs, to a less niche set that isn't as good as it was for magsorcs, except if you just put out fire damage and use elfbane. I really don't get the change. I'm glad the grind for new monster sets isn't as bad as trial gear...
  • universal_wrath
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    Almsivife wrote: »
    bol wrote: »
    - Increased the damage done from each meteor shower to 2015, up from 1170. You can no longer layer each meteor shower.
    - Increased the proc chance to 33%.

    How is this a nerf? To me it looks like a buff. I did test it, and illambris has been buffed compared to live. Plus it is now viable for all magicka classes not just magsorc while at the same time improving your FPS since there is not so much particles that need to be rendered by the game. win win.

    Right. I didn't consider the proc chance increase. Unless my reasoning is faulty, average dps would be 0.1 * 2 * 1170 = 234 on live and 0.33 * 2015 = 665 on PTS. So you are right, it's actually a substantial buff.

    Is it tested, or just pure math? Do elments share same cooldown or thry still have saperate cooldown? Maybe now they will bring back the frost element? Overall, I liked it when I could stack the meteor showers, good visual effect that now gone.
  • martijnlv40
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    Almsivife wrote: »
    bol wrote: »
    - Increased the damage done from each meteor shower to 2015, up from 1170. You can no longer layer each meteor shower.
    - Increased the proc chance to 33%.

    How is this a nerf? To me it looks like a buff. I did test it, and illambris has been buffed compared to live. Plus it is now viable for all magicka classes not just magsorc while at the same time improving your FPS since there is not so much particles that need to be rendered by the game. win win.

    Right. I didn't consider the proc chance increase. Unless my reasoning is faulty, average dps would be 0.1 * 2 * 1170 = 234 on live and 0.33 * 2015 = 665 on PTS. So you are right, it's actually a substantial buff.

    Is it tested, or just pure math? Do elments share same cooldown or thry still have saperate cooldown? Maybe now they will bring back the frost element? Overall, I liked it when I could stack the meteor showers, good visual effect that now gone.

    It’s just math, and it’s plain wrong math. This assumes the proc is only active 10%/33% of the time, which is absolutely false.
  • Wolfchild07
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    I used this on a werewolf for FUN, dual wield with a fire glyph on one weapon and a shock glyph on the other. But yeah change it, cause numbers/whatever other nonsense reason. Thanks for destroying FUN yet again ZOS.
  • StackonClown
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    Is there a reason for the change somewhere - once again Zenny is destroying our fun?? Who was this burning so bad they had to change it???? ;(
  • Olupajmibanan
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    Is there a reason for the change somewhere - once again Zenny is destroying our fun?? Who was this burning so bad they had to change it???? ;(

    Most probably performance.
  • StackonClown
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    Is there a reason for the change somewhere - once again Zenny is destroying our fun?? Who was this burning so bad they had to change it???? ;(

    Most probably performance.

    Hmm - would be good if they said it - after so many years ?
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