What About Bow and Armor!!!

RandomKodiak

@GRXRG If they cannot fix desync just reduce damage by 75%, so even if desyncs who cares, people will stop using it and we will have one less skill that desyncs.

Yeah great just kill off a whole weapon skill line to make your life better. Great Idea so I guess when people say since they can't fix Cyro lag and they should just get rid of PvP you don't have an issue with that? I agree the snipe desync needs addressing in the worst way but please don't call for a 75% damage reduction of the only spammable for any weapon line. Some people play PvE as well you know.

GRXRG

RandomKodiak wrote: »

@GRXRG If they cannot fix desync just reduce damage by 75%, so even if desyncs who cares, people will stop using it and we will have one less skill that desyncs.

Yeah great just kill off a whole weapon skill line to make your life better. Great Idea so I guess when people say since they can't fix Cyro lag and they should just get rid of PvP you don't have an issue with that? I agree the snipe desync needs addressing in the worst way but please don't call for a 75% damage reduction of the only spammable for any weapon line. Some people play PvE as well you know.

Now show me a pve build where snipe is used? Go on i'm all ears.
It is used anywhere but bowtards desyncers and gankers, if they fix the desync they can leave the skill as it is, or even boost damage by 100% as long as it doesn't desync my dang health, if they can't, gut it to being not usable anymore, and for sure i won't miss it at all.

SshadowSscale

OWLTHEMAD wrote: »

I think bow overperforms just a bit on the damage end with ganking.

However, this is kind of the fantasy/identity behind using a bow.

I think it shouldnt be able to completely kill someone rocking full heavy armor though.

I think you should be forced to get up close for that. Ganker or otherwise.

I think it should be more specialised towards killing those in medium or light armor.

Its basic logic, in the real world a bow isnt going to punch through full plate armor.

You would br surprised at what a biw can do in real life...... Why do yu think bows where so popular even against full heavy plate armor+gambison...... Because it could still *** people really badly and yes an arrow from a war bow can pietce through plate armor

SodanTok

GRXRG wrote: »

RandomKodiak wrote: »

@GRXRG If they cannot fix desync just reduce damage by 75%, so even if desyncs who cares, people will stop using it and we will have one less skill that desyncs.

Yeah great just kill off a whole weapon skill line to make your life better. Great Idea so I guess when people say since they can't fix Cyro lag and they should just get rid of PvP you don't have an issue with that? I agree the snipe desync needs addressing in the worst way but please don't call for a 75% damage reduction of the only spammable for any weapon line. Some people play PvE as well you know.

Now show me a pve build where snipe is used? Go on i'm all ears.
It is used anywhere but bowtards desyncers and gankers, if they fix the desync they can leave the skill as it is, or even boost damage by 100% as long as it doesn't desync my dang health, if they can't, gut it to being not usable anymore, and for sure i won't miss it at all.

Literally every bow/bow pve build? You are just embarrassing yourself by your "knowledge" you gained from reading few threads and watching your fav streamer

RandomKodiak

I have been a PvE bow/bow stamsorc main for a year and a half. Have gotten Vet clears in every trial in game. No I am not a Hodor quality player but also do not claim to be and have (depending on patch) been between 70 and 80k dps for the last year. Yes Snipe is the spammable to use on a bow/bow, because crushing weapon is the next best thing but 2-4k less dps and a buggy, clunky piece of junk. I understand you don't care about it and why, all I am saying is until they fix it or (I hope beyond all hope) come up with something better, asking for a massive nerf for your convenience is truly arrogant just because you don't know anyone who uses the skill.

GRXRG

SodanTok wrote: »

GRXRG wrote: »

RandomKodiak wrote: »

@GRXRG If they cannot fix desync just reduce damage by 75%, so even if desyncs who cares, people will stop using it and we will have one less skill that desyncs.

Yeah great just kill off a whole weapon skill line to make your life better. Great Idea so I guess when people say since they can't fix Cyro lag and they should just get rid of PvP you don't have an issue with that? I agree the snipe desync needs addressing in the worst way but please don't call for a 75% damage reduction of the only spammable for any weapon line. Some people play PvE as well you know.

Now show me a pve build where snipe is used? Go on i'm all ears.
It is used anywhere but bowtards desyncers and gankers, if they fix the desync they can leave the skill as it is, or even boost damage by 100% as long as it doesn't desync my dang health, if they can't, gut it to being not usable anymore, and for sure i won't miss it at all.

Literally every bow/bow pve build? You are just embarrassing yourself by your "knowledge" you gained from reading few threads and watching your fav streamer

Yeah bow/bow builds which maybe are maybe played by 5% of the population because the meta is dw/bow or 2h/bow.
It is usually a beginner build to start off dps and I don't see any endgame pvers run bow/bow.

And you know there is something called Battle Spirit, they could nerf the damage on pvp only and you keep your *** so loved skill for pve.

RandomKodiak

I guess the record times in vAS hard mode last year where it was all bow/bow toons on dps mean "Nobody" end game uses bow/bow? You have obviously made up your mind that you know better than everyone else and it won't be changed. I wish you well in your PvP and actually do hope they fix Cyro issues, but not at the expense of my PvE enjoyment.

ganzaeso

There is nothing wrong with Bow. I've been reading the patch notes and experimenting on PTS and as a bow user I'm considering switching to 2 Hander.

GRXRG

RandomKodiak wrote: »

I guess the record times in vAS hard mode last year where it was all bow/bow toons on dps mean "Nobody" end game uses bow/bow? You have obviously made up your mind that you know better than everyone else and it won't be changed. I wish you well in your PvP and actually do hope they fix Cyro issues, but not at the expense of my PvE enjoyment.

So what? Because you can play your bow/bow build is it okay that it desyncs my health every single game i am facing a [snip] snipe user? It contributes on making the gamemode i like the most unplayable.

[snip], so if for once you cannot play a skill anymore what will happen? Everyone die? No, people will find another skill to use and adapt. But i am tired of having to face that skill over and over and have my health desynced, and same for Elemental weapon used with Overloads, which is a big problem too.

[Edit for Baiting and Misinformation.]

Atherakhia

The argument that bow should be nerfed because of server side syncing issues is absurd. The arguments that it could be overpowered in PvP scenarios are valid. But poor coding and poor server performance aren't a reason to nerf something. We go down that road we'll all be playing as Xs and Os in no time.

JobooAGS

GRXRG wrote: »

SodanTok wrote: »

GRXRG wrote: »

RandomKodiak wrote: »

@GRXRG If they cannot fix desync just reduce damage by 75%, so even if desyncs who cares, people will stop using it and we will have one less skill that desyncs.

Yeah great just kill off a whole weapon skill line to make your life better. Great Idea so I guess when people say since they can't fix Cyro lag and they should just get rid of PvP you don't have an issue with that? I agree the snipe desync needs addressing in the worst way but please don't call for a 75% damage reduction of the only spammable for any weapon line. Some people play PvE as well you know.

Now show me a pve build where snipe is used? Go on i'm all ears.
It is used anywhere but bowtards desyncers and gankers, if they fix the desync they can leave the skill as it is, or even boost damage by 100% as long as it doesn't desync my dang health, if they can't, gut it to being not usable anymore, and for sure i won't miss it at all.

Literally every bow/bow pve build? You are just embarrassing yourself by your "knowledge" you gained from reading few threads and watching your fav streamer

Yeah bow/bow builds which maybe are maybe played by 5% of the population because the meta is dw/bow or 2h/bow.
It is usually a beginner build to start off dps and I don't see any endgame pvers run bow/bow.

And you know there is something called Battle Spirit, they could nerf the damage on pvp only and you keep your *** so loved skill for pve.

You do realize that for some bosses in VSS and all of VAS (Even VCR to an extent) bow/bow is meta for stam?

PS, Id love for snipe and rapid fire to change places with some obvious adjustments, snipe in its current state is unhealthy for the game.

TheHsN

With the new 8k+ weapon Damage i would like to see what is going to happen really about this. We will wait 3 months more to make Zos notice and fix...

I write it here...

See you after 3 months

Ezorus

How about nerfing Jabs, Leap first and comet first since those skill lines and class have other options to pick from. And leave the only useable bow skill alone