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Eso+ Sub Status (who has cancelled?)

Celephantsylvius_Bornasfinmo
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Hey folks,

I am curious to know how many of you have cancelled your Eso+ subscriptions in light of the crashes/lags/bugs and desynchs we have been experiencing now for over 2 months.
It is not to bait or troll, so please keep your wording polite and keep your discussions for other posts which relate to the matter(s).
I would like to get a general idea of how the player is feeling at the moment through this voting poll.

Freya

Eso+ Sub Status (who has cancelled?) 690 votes

I have cancelled my Eso+ subscription
38% 264 votes
I am considering cancelling my Eso+ subscritpion
21% 146 votes
I have not cancelled my Eso+ subscription and do not intend to
40% 280 votes
  • MurderMostFoul
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    BGs are the answer.
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  • Daffen
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    I dotn get to play that much lately and i look forward to playing the game, however the lag is annoying but i just switch campaign or do something else other than cyrodiil. I will wait and see if performance gets better in greymoor and decide if i want to cancel or not.
  • ArchMikem
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    >Claims is not bait.
    >Topic has always been a point of contention in forum.
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    Quest Objective: OMG Go Talk To That Kitty!
  • Elsonso
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    Canceling the subscription is a hollow gesture. You can cancel it and resubscribe without it even impacting your game.

    Allowing your ESO Plus to actually lapse, so you are no longer benefiting from ESO Plus, is the real benchmark.
    PC NA/EU: @Elsonso
    XBox EU/NA: @ElsonsoJannus
    X/Twitter: ElsonsoJannus
  • ArchMikem
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    Elsonso wrote: »
    Canceling the subscription is a hollow gesture. You can cancel it and resubscribe without it even impacting your game.

    Allowing your ESO Plus to actually lapse, so you are no longer benefiting from ESO Plus, is the real benchmark.

    It does immediately impact your game though. Immediately after being unsubscribed you're no longer allowed to add more items into your Craft Bag and your Bank space gets cut again. You don't lose any items that were already deposited in those, but you can't put more in.
    CP1,900+ Master Explorer - AvA One Star General - Console Peasant - The Clan
    Quest Objective: OMG Go Talk To That Kitty!
  • Elsonso
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Elsonso wrote: »
    Canceling the subscription is a hollow gesture. You can cancel it and resubscribe without it even impacting your game.

    Allowing your ESO Plus to actually lapse, so you are no longer benefiting from ESO Plus, is the real benchmark.

    It does immediately impact your game though. Immediately after being unsubscribed you're no longer allowed to add more items into your Craft Bag and your Bank space gets cut again. You don't lose any items that were already deposited in those, but you can't put more in.

    Since when? Is this some crazy console thing? Players have paid for the time and they should not be losing benefits until that time runs out.
    PC NA/EU: @Elsonso
    XBox EU/NA: @ElsonsoJannus
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  • Tigerseye
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    As I have stated previously, I am unlikely to cancel ESO+ (while still intending to continue playing), because the game is borderline unplayable, for me, anyway, even with it.

    I'm far more likely to just quit/take an unending break, if things get too untenable.
    Edited by Tigerseye on April 1, 2020 5:00PM
  • ArchMikem
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    Elsonso wrote: »
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Elsonso wrote: »
    Canceling the subscription is a hollow gesture. You can cancel it and resubscribe without it even impacting your game.

    Allowing your ESO Plus to actually lapse, so you are no longer benefiting from ESO Plus, is the real benchmark.

    It does immediately impact your game though. Immediately after being unsubscribed you're no longer allowed to add more items into your Craft Bag and your Bank space gets cut again. You don't lose any items that were already deposited in those, but you can't put more in.

    Since when? Is this some crazy console thing? Players have paid for the time and they should not be losing benefits until that time runs out.

    ....I haven't been unsubbed in a long while, I may be remembering wrong.
    CP1,900+ Master Explorer - AvA One Star General - Console Peasant - The Clan
    Quest Objective: OMG Go Talk To That Kitty!
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  • Kalik_Gold
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    ESO+
    Main: (PvP & PvE)
    Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar, the Vestige

    PvP:
    Aurik Siet'ka a Redguard Necromancer
    Cacique the Sage of Ius a Redguard Warden
    Jux Blackheart a Redguard Nightblade
    Goliath of Hammerfell a Redguard Dragonknight
    Kaotik Von Dae'mon a Redguard* Sorcerer

    PvP: (Specialty)
    Tyrus Septim an Imperial Lycan Sorcerer
    Tsar af-Bomba a Redguard Vampiric Nightblade
    Movárth Piquine a Nord Vampiric Necromancer
    Uri Ice-Heart the Twin a Nord Vampiric Warden

    PvE:
    Cinan Tharn an Imperial Dragonknight
    Bates Vesuius of Dawnstar an Imperial Dragonknight
    Herzog Zwei the Genesis an Akavari* Templar
    Tav'i at-Shinji a Redguard** Warden
    Lucky Hunch the Gambler - a Redguard Nightblade

    Leveling...
    Zenovia at-Tura a Redguard** Sorcerer
    Yesi af-Kalik a Redguard Templar
    Voa a Priest of Sep a Redguard* Necromancer
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    Passives of another race used. (RP)
    *Breton
    **Imperial




    __________________________Backstories:_________________________

    Ras Kalik the Vestige, a renown Redguard warrior; He has been blessed to save Tamriel from Molag Bal’s destructive Planemeld while reuniting the Five Companions. His further accomplishments after defeating Molag Bal, has been to stop the destruction of Morrowind, the Clockwork City, return order to the isle of Summerset and create a new king in Wrothgar and a queen in Elsywer. These events have made him a living legend and continue to lead him into new adventures throughout Tamriel, as well as into the hearts of many ladies including the Elf Queen, Aryenn. Over many years of adventurous travels, Ras Kalik had become a loner, until he re-visited his homeland of Alik'r.

    Alik'r and it's cities were overrun by the undead Ra-Netu and therefore he made an allegiance with Alik'r's own Ash'abah tribe. These Ash'abah with his help, cleansed the city of Sentinel in Alik'r desert and it's surrounding areas of the undead brought to life by the Withered Hand. After rescuing Sentinel from the undead zombies, King Fahara’jad’s personal bodyguard the Goliath of Hammerfell, who was given this name by Imperials in the region; was asked to assist the tribe after learning of the defeat of the Withered Hand to the Ash'abah. Kalik promised Goliath he would task him with fighting living enemies on the battlefield if he so desired. Goliath being a Yokudan warrior wields a massive sword in respect to the Ansei, a gift given by the Imperial, Cinan Tharn. Not many soldiers are able to wield double two handed weapons, but Goliath loves to get up and personal in a fight, so he also carries a giant maul, both weapons laced with magical flames.

    Jux Blackheart is a master thief that masquerades as a Bard at the Sisters of the Sands inn, with his younger sidekick Lucky Hunch for pilfering and gambling during this time. Jux was known to infiltrate any towns bank vault he came across and even delved into Ayelid ruins without detection. Kalik can vividly recall the night he met the famed thief. Jux found himself rummaging thru a slightly inebriated Kalik’s pocket for too long, on a full-mooned night and because of his greed and the glimmer of his golden armor in the moonlight. He lost his left pinky fingertip as a lesson! But in return, he gained a new friend, as it was his first time since a child being caught red-handed...

    Upon arrival back in the Alik'r after many moons of adventuring, Ras Kalik ventures to Bergama. Visiting The Winking Jackal, he runs into Jux Blackheart, who introduces him to the coin game Crowns vs Forebearers (Heads vs Tails) and Golden Dwemer (RBG).... Jux constantly takes gold from the unfortunate thru theft or gambling, his biggest gambling victim is actually his partner in crime known as Lucky Hunch the Gambler. Lucky doesn't mind losing any gold coins to Jux... as Jux saved him from Altmer slavers in Summerset, by stealing a key and sending him on a boat to the mainland years prior. Lucky spent years in slavery with Khajiits in Summerset and picked up the art of subterfuge, using illusion magic disguises and stealing there.

    Kaotik Von’Daemon an outcast, and a half-caste between a Breton mother and a Redguard father. Kaotik become a pariah due to his conjuration of Daedra pets. He was taught healing magic during his childhood years by his Breton mother. His father due to Redguard customs exiled him from the desert, sending him by wagon caravan to be a soldier in the war in Cyrodiil. He happened to meet Kalik while traveling from Alik'r, during this long caravan ride the caravan he was in was ambushed in Bangkorai by a group of bandits. Kalik by chance was also traveling thru this area on his Auridon Warhorse (which was bestowed to him by his friend, Darien Gautier). During this ambush, Kalik was able to rescue five hostages from the bandits. Kaotik was the first rescued, and Ras Kalik also recruited him to be in the Ash'abah tribe. These core Ash'abah tribesmen may never be seen together in travel as they partake in their own adventures but they always know what each other is doing; as they frequent a hideout in northern Bankorai. Their hideout an old Orc castle ruin, is kept watch by Nuzhimeh and she passes messages written between them, and frequently they also enjoy her company and her bed.

    The other men rescued were a Dunmer banker, an Imperial mercenary and two other soldiers, an Imperial and a Breton Knight, stating proudly he was an Akavir descendent. One of the Imperials, Cinan, claimed to be related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (One of Ras Kalik's mentors in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn was really Abnur's drunkard treasure hunting illegitimate son. He was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayleid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder of the two Imperials was Tyrus Septim a retired Imperial navy battle-mage (now a Lycan mercenary living in the city of Rimmen) and guard to the Tharn family. As much as Abnur Tharn hated his half-sister Euraxia, he dislikes his bas†ard son Cinan more. Tyrus now a ruffian and privateer had been paid by Abnur Tharn to watch over Cinan as much as possible. Cinan Tharn a drunkard, loves to drink at least a quarter barrel of Nord mead before he raids various delves and dungeons for relics to sell on the black market. Cinan also plans to one day, run an illegal gambling ring... which he thinks will net him more gold for his wares.

    The Dunmer captive shackled to the Imperials looked familiar to Kalik from his time in Morrowind.... and he recognized him as Tythis Andromo a House Telvanni slave-owner and banker from Vvardenfell. During a rough interrogation to Tythis, Ras Kalik learnt why the bandits accosted him. The racist Dunmer was providing slaves as soldiers for the Three Banner War. The bandits were trying to negotiate a lucrative ransom for Andromo and the Imperials.... Kalik did not need any of this gold and he could never set Tythis free as he did with the two Imperial soldiers. His past involvement with slavery and war crimes, made Kalik's blood boil. He chose not to execute Tythis, as he figured the worse punishment for this former rich and opulent slave owner, is to now be an imprisoned servant for Ras Kalik and the tribe.

    Herzog Zwei the Genesis a reknown Imperial/Akavirri battle-mage. His roots going back to Akavir through his mother’s bloodline. (His mother is descended from the Akaviri, through Versidue-Shae, and his Imperial father met her in Hakoshae, while traveling) Herzog earned the nickname "the Genesis" from his father as a child, as he was his mother's first born child, and last, as she tragically died in child-birth.

    Herzog was seeking to purchase an artifact from Cinan Tharn, before their capture and was meeting Tyrus while in Rimmen, who introduced him to Cinan. This artifact being the Ayelid artifact; the sword Sinweaver. After their rescue and the exchange of gold to Cinan for the sword he decided to slip away before Ras Kalik could question who he was, and why the Akavir descendant really wanted that sword. Herzog was headed to Nagastani — An Ayleid ruin in eastern Cyrodiil. He had read in scrolls that the Sword would give him magical powers to meet his mothers spirit, if he performed an Ayleid ritual at an old shrine hidden there. Equipped with the artifact sword, he was off to start his own adventure but Ras Kalik, did indeed notice the sword however and instead sent a letter to Jux Blackheart (whom also was interested in Ayleid treasures), to attempt to find Herzog and acquire the sword. (*Azani Blackheart in Elder Scroll's Oblivion is Jux's descendant some 747 years later)

    And so the Redguard, Imperial and Akaviri men parted ways ... While Ras Kalik went off to Elsweyr to encounter the latest threat to Tamriel, with Abnur Tharn and Sai Sahan - - DRAGONS!! Little did Ras Kalik know a few people were awaiting him in Senchal besides Sai. A necromancer survived his attack on the Withered Hand, while in Alik'r. The necromancer known as Auriek Siet'ka is also following him to the land of the Khajiits and Cacique the Sage of Ius a Shaman mystic who has become attuned spiritually with Tu'whacca (a Redguard God) and Ius (the Animal God), after being burned severely by the escaped dragons in Elsywer, is awaiting his arrival also. Aurik is a soldier of the Daggerfall Covenant that was introduced to necromancy while in the military, even though this magicka art is not spoken of openly by most of the Military leaders. He came to Alik'r and worked with the Withered Hand before Ras Kalik intervened on their plans. After the defeat of the Withered Hand, he aligned with the Worm Cult, and is constantly adapting and perfecting his necromantic arts.

    After his journey to Rimmen, Kalik heads south to Senchal, in the southern regions of Elyswer. This new adventure will also put him on a path to meet a strange Redguard man. The stranger which was infected with an untreated Peyrite disease and also was the exiled from the Order of the New Moon cult, due to his sickness. He originally joined the cult to worship Laatvulon, the green dragon, mistakenly thinking it was the Daedric prince Peyrite. This confused and suffering cultist is known as Tsar al-Bomba and he is on a path to spread the disease. He was originally infected in Orccrest while recruiting members there. Can Ras Kalik and the shaman Cacique cure this poor soul, only time will tell. Little does Tsar al-Bomba know, that his infection is tied to Vampirism, and eventually the desire for blood will take over his mind. Senchal also offers Kalik his latest love interest... Aeliah. Whom he fondly led thru battles with the Dragonguard.

    After the trek thru the heat, tropical and desert climate of Northern and Southern Elyswer, Ras Kalik heads north to the cold mountain range of Skyrim. His companion friend Lyris beckons for him with a letter sent by crow...

    Movárth Piquine - a former vampire hunter (now infected), within the Fighter's Guild (and a secretive necromancer) was in Skyrim working with the Morthaal Guard. On a patrol mission he was caught in Frewien's ice curse outside of Morthaal with the frozen undead. Movárth's vampiric infection kept him from becoming an undead minion to the curse. He was able to use necromantic ice-magic to encase himself safely until he was freed with Freiwen, when the Vestige Ras Kalik broke the curse.

    Uri Ice-Heart - brother of Urfon Ice-Heart. The twin sons of Atli and Oljourn Ice-Heart. The Ice-Heart family are originally from Markarth but now reside on the Jerall Mountain range near Cyrodiil, with their younger sister Araki. The twins had joined the Winterborn Reachmen while living in Markarth. Urfon pushed west to Orsinium with the Winterborn Clan, leaving his family behind. Uri stayed behind with his parents and sister to live in the family cabin for safety, avoiding the Vampire plague infiltrating the Reach. After news reaches him and he hears of Urfon's death... Uri leaves and heads home and is seeking vengeance. Meanwhile, his sister has also moved on to Windhelm to join the Fighter's guild. He will visit his sister, once before going to seek vengeance and she will craft him armor mixed with ice, called Stalhrim armor. Uri fearing death, after his brother's passing, falls victim to the convincing talk of Movárth at a Nordic tavern, and will also becomes a vampire.

    {time moves forward through the hour-glass}
    PS5/NA - Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar - Daggerfall Covenant • 1550+ Champion

  • Sailor_Palutena
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    I was going to cancel but forgot the renewal was today lol.

    I hate being dropped in DLC dungeons with fake roles/too low level/undergeared/anti-mechanics pugs and get stuck in a boss after half an hour in them.

    I don't (generally) mind such groups anywhere else but DLC dungeons. Since I mostly login for a quick random dungeon finder, it is very irritating. Not even the Crowns, extra bag, xp and money are compensating the hassle.

    Just put the option: Skip DLC dungeons! Warcraft HAVE an option to discard X dungeons/batlegrounds from a random finder.
  • Starlock
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    "We" have not been experiencing these things for 2+ months now. The problems do not impact all dimensions of the game equally. The only place I noticed this is when I did a trial last week for the first time in a long time, and the problems happened in only one of the two trials we did (Sunspire).
  • Kelces
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    Elsonso wrote: »
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Elsonso wrote: »
    Canceling the subscription is a hollow gesture. You can cancel it and resubscribe without it even impacting your game.

    Allowing your ESO Plus to actually lapse, so you are no longer benefiting from ESO Plus, is the real benchmark.

    It does immediately impact your game though. Immediately after being unsubscribed you're no longer allowed to add more items into your Craft Bag and your Bank space gets cut again. You don't lose any items that were already deposited in those, but you can't put more in.

    Since when? Is this some crazy console thing? Players have paid for the time and they should not be losing benefits until that time runs out.

    No, it's real. I can confirm this. My sub ran out a month ago, my crafting bag is accessible, just as described previously.
    You reveal yourself best in how you play.

    Kelces - Argonian Templar
    Farel Donvu - Dark Elf Sorcerer
    Navam Llervu - Dark Elf Dragonknight
    Aniseth - Wood Elf Warden
    Therediel - Wood Elf Templar
    Nilonwy - Wood Elf Nightblade
    Jurupari - Argonian Warden
    Kú-Chulainn - Argonian Sorcerer
    PC - EU
    For the Pact!
  • Toc de Malsvi
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    I canceled long before the past 2 months though.
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    Bosmer Dragon Knight Archer. XBox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)
    Bosmer Nightblade Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)
    Bosmer Sorcerer Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)
    Bosmer Warden Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)
    Templar's are evil..
  • redspecter23
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    I haven't cancelled and don't intend to right now, but I don't play pvp often. I suspect my response might be different if I did.
  • Dark_Lord_Kuro
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Elsonso wrote: »
    Canceling the subscription is a hollow gesture. You can cancel it and resubscribe without it even impacting your game.

    Allowing your ESO Plus to actually lapse, so you are no longer benefiting from ESO Plus, is the real benchmark.

    It does immediately impact your game though. Immediately after being unsubscribed you're no longer allowed to add more items into your Craft Bag and your Bank space gets cut again. You don't lose any items that were already deposited in those, but you can't put more in.

    No
    If you pais for 30 day(or any other time) and cancel in the middle you will still benefit from the perk until the end of the time you paid for
  • idk
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    Youyouz06 wrote: »
    I would like to get a general idea of how the player is feeling at the moment through this voting poll.

    The poll will not give you any idea of who has quit their sub or not. Those who never bought ESO+, those who still sub, and those who still frequent this forum even though they have not played the game in ages will still vote. People will choose answers to sway the poll thinking it has meaning when Zos has a much better poll that provides much more meaningful results.

    Edit: I forgot to add, the answer that "I am considering cancelling my Eso+ subscription" is really "I have not cancelled my Eso+ subscription and do not intend to" as people blow smoke on this all the time but until they actually cancel that sub it is meaningless.
    Edited by idk on April 1, 2020 6:18PM
  • Universe
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    I'm not subscribed to ESO Plus for a very long time now...
    The game was a lot better a year ago.
    Like day and night...
    Some videos I recorded for fun: Main character:
    PC EU main: Universe - AD magicka Sorcerer, Former Emperor, Grand Overlord, The Merciless, Trial Bosses Solo Champion
    Top alts: Genius(stamina/sagicka Dragonknight) The Force(stamina Nightblade) and other chars.
    PC NA main: The Magic - AD magicka Sorcerer
    Started playing ESO in beta & early access
    User_ID: Daedric_Prince
  • rfennell_ESO
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    I've been cancelled and not playing (except for once every other blue moon or so) for a while.

    Mostly because the constant changes have mutilated the play styles I'm familiar with.
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Elsonso wrote: »
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Elsonso wrote: »
    Canceling the subscription is a hollow gesture. You can cancel it and resubscribe without it even impacting your game.

    Allowing your ESO Plus to actually lapse, so you are no longer benefiting from ESO Plus, is the real benchmark.

    It does immediately impact your game though. Immediately after being unsubscribed you're no longer allowed to add more items into your Craft Bag and your Bank space gets cut again. You don't lose any items that were already deposited in those, but you can't put more in.

    Since when? Is this some crazy console thing? Players have paid for the time and they should not be losing benefits until that time runs out.

    ....I haven't been unsubbed in a long while, I may be remembering wrong.

    You are. You get to use any time you have remaining.
  • SmukkeHeks
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    Cancelled my sub half a year ago. During the mayhem. Don’t plan on resubbing.

    I played a total of four hours last week. Can’t find the motivation anymore
  • JumpmanLane
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    I've canceled mine. Got Greymoor refunded.
  • Everstorm
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    I mainly do single player stuff and have experienced very few issues. Sub runs out in two weeks but I will probably resub. Looking forward to fresh quest content.
  • bmnoble
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    I just sub for the year and forget about it, if I am not happy with the game when it comes time to renew around December, then I will make the decision then as to whether I will cancel or not.

    Still on the fence about getting the new chapter though.
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    This poll is anyway pointless, because people, who aren't subbed or never subbed in the first place can vote as well.
  • Deathlord92
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    Cancel my eso plus last year in October love the game but the performance in cyrodiil is awful.
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    I've cancelled my sub and my preorder several weeks ago. I really would like both, but not in this condition. Im really sad that its been almost 6 weeks and they havent even gotten it close to where I could accept resubbing and re-purchasing the expansion

  • JanTanhide
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    Elsonso wrote: »
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Elsonso wrote: »
    Canceling the subscription is a hollow gesture. You can cancel it and resubscribe without it even impacting your game.

    Allowing your ESO Plus to actually lapse, so you are no longer benefiting from ESO Plus, is the real benchmark.

    It does immediately impact your game though. Immediately after being unsubscribed you're no longer allowed to add more items into your Craft Bag and your Bank space gets cut again. You don't lose any items that were already deposited in those, but you can't put more in.

    Since when? Is this some crazy console thing? Players have paid for the time and they should not be losing benefits until that time runs out.

    You are correct. Your benefits stay active until the ESO Plus sub expires.
  • DaveMoeDee
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    I always cancel all renewing subs. There is no benefit to auto-renew. If a sub runs out and I need it again, I buy more.

    I don't usually keep my sub up year round because I'm not going to play a single game year round. No game releases enough content to be worth pay that much annually.

    One change though is that I haven't pre-ordered the next chapter. This has nothing to do with game performance. It is because I have fallen behind in playing new content. I am probably 80% done with the Elsweyr chapter and still haven't done the 3 DLC from last year. I did a 1 month sub yesterday to help with Jubilee loot. I'll try to finish off the rest of the content from last year in that month and then take a sub break for at least 6 months. I'll either buy the chapter on deep discount down the line or wait a year for it to appear in ESO+.
  • TheFM
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    Youyouz06 wrote: »
    Hey folks,

    I am curious to know how many of you have cancelled your Eso+ subscriptions in light of the crashes/lags/bugs and desynchs we have been experiencing now for over 2 months.
    It is not to bait or troll, so please keep your wording polite and keep your discussions for other posts which relate to the matter(s).
    I would like to get a general idea of how the player is feeling at the moment through this voting poll.

    Freya

    I have a 6 month sub that runs out in 2 months. Will not renew unless there is some serious work on performance and balance to the pay 2 win classes.
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