PvP Jumpers

Paidkilla
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I never really understood this, me and my friends have joked about it for years in gaming, all pvp based games have these players but it seems like Eso has always been notorious for it. Jumping while pvping. I just sat here watching about 5 duels by Undaunted and i kid you not all the ones that were slightly losing started jumping all over. Is this a frail ego, insecurity or just for fun? Anytime me and my friends pvp and the enemy starts jumping we like to assume their voice and start saying "it aint nothin, it aint nothin"! cracks me up, all this silly jumping. Does it make you better? Do i need to start?
  • xshatox
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    Free rolling.
  • Commancho
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    You would jump either if your three letters would be on fire.
  • NightSquirrel
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    It’s fun to jump.
    Edited by NightSquirrel on March 13, 2020 7:41AM
  • relentless_turnip
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    It just makes you slightly harder to hit... especially for a caster melee range.
    I jump like a madman if i'm playing magsorc :lol:
  • Raisin
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    Bouncing sparks joy.
  • Paidkilla
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    I try to picture a real battle of old with warriors jumping all over.
  • THEDKEXPERIENCE
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    It costs 0 resources to jump. It’s no different then roll dodging except it’s free. If it works just once it’s a good idea, and for the record, it works ALOT.

    Ever wonder how to get out of a Zerg on Zerg fire fight with very low resources? A lot of it involves random vertical jumping when everyone else is moving laterally.

    Edit - in a 1 on 1 fight it’s probably pointless. In a massive fight where people are fighting you at range it’s helpful. If I can get you to miss just 1 arrow that otherwise would have landed it can be enough to get my other resources back and regroup. It’s not just ESO. In any game with ranged attacks it’s a good idea. I’m certainly not gonna stand still if I’m about to get sniped.
    Edited by THEDKEXPERIENCE on March 13, 2020 8:16AM
  • Cirantille
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    Because it looks funny and I am having joy playing the game I like :)
    Edited by Cirantille on March 13, 2020 8:16AM
  • MartiniDaniels
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    Paidkilla wrote: »
    I try to picture a real battle of old with warriors jumping all over.

    Ahem. Look at any martial arts - majority of them have elements of jumping. You don't need to go in anything exotic - just look at boxing.
    And ESO is not some medieval knight tournament simulator. It is fantasy game with fantasy abilities and in which every player wields magicka of some sort. Jumping in proper moments gives advantage, determining those moments is element of player's skill.
  • MartiniDaniels
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    Here you go, high lelel sword fight IRL, by professionals. They don't jump in one place of course, but they jump during defensive or offensive moves. And that guy which was most jumpy managed 1v2 pretty easily while that one which was less mobile was unable to 1v2 at all.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUIoMreBQa0
  • daemonios
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    Targeting in ESO is a pile of manure - raise your hand if you've ever hit a critter with an ultimate, even though your reticle was clearly on a baddie and it was outlined in red, or if you've ever been pointing at a baddie and had a staff light attack shoot backwards over your shoulder at some target that the game somehow determined you should hit instead.

    Bunny hopping (not the exploit, just moving around doing normal jumps) makes you much harder to hit, in part due to the sloppy targeting mechanics, and especially so in the case of targeted ranged skills, which seem to look for any opportunity not to go off, or hit anything other than your intended target.
  • OlumoGarbag
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    I always jump right before: gapclosers, line of sight channels, ranged light attacks or skills on uneven ground. In alot of cases jumping right before you use any ranged skill gives you a clear line of sight and you hit your target. It is almost impossible to land natures grasp without jumping before due to laggy traveling for example.
    This is mostly for open world pvp since bgs have more or less flat ground anyways.
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  • merevie
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    ..also helps your brain calculate the lag without having to count or use addons
  • ku5h
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    Paidkilla wrote: »
    I try to picture a real battle of old with warriors jumping all over.

    Ahem. Look at any martial arts - majority of them have elements of jumping. You don't need to go in anything exotic - just look at boxing.

    Not a great example. Trained boxing for couple of years and i can tell you, if both of my feet went for the ground once during a sparring or a match i wouldn't hear the end of it for at least a month. Jumping in boxing is asking to be knocked on your ass.
  • Zer0_CooL
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    Some (game pad users) use jump to make up for the movability loss when barswapping (left thumb leaves stick to press arrow).
  • Minyassa
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    Flubber!
  • MaxJrFTW
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    If you get stunned mid air and you break cc before you land, your character won't get stunned at all because you skip the stun animation.

    In a game like WoW people hop around because it's fun, but in ESO there's an actual benefit.

    I think you do get stunned mid air but you don't get locked down because you're still moving in the air. Something like that.
    Edited by MaxJrFTW on March 13, 2020 10:41AM
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  • Syrusthevirus187
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    How do you swap bars without jumping? If you don't jump you have to leave your character frozen while your left thumb moves from stick to pad and back. Jumping feels more natural.
  • daemonios
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    How do you swap bars without jumping? If you don't jump you have to leave your character frozen while your left thumb moves from stick to pad and back. Jumping feels more natural.

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  • Donny_Vito
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    In a duel, it's pointless. Any good dueler already has you tab-targeted so you jumping does absolutely nothing except make you have to hit more keys. In big fights where you're most likely being targeted by name/recognition, it's more useful.
  • BisDasBlutGefriert
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    Because they played too much fortnite
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  • GeorgeBlack
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    Whatever helps them sleep at n...,
    ...on the floor
    Edited by GeorgeBlack on March 13, 2020 11:29AM
  • oxygen_thief
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    Donny_Vito wrote: »
    In a duel, it's pointless. Any good dueler already has you tab-targeted so you jumping does absolutely nothing except make you have to hit more keys. In big fights where you're most likely being targeted by name/recognition, it's more useful.
    tab-targeted? does it work? it feels like a highlighting to me.
  • 5cript
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    I used to do it way back, but dont anymore.
    It helped me target players better is what I recall. Especially on uneven terrain.
    And I feel like I actually had more range, but take that with a grain of salt.
  • Puzzlenuts
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    Jumping means your a force to be reckoned with ;)
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  • JKorr
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    How do you swap bars without jumping? If you don't jump you have to leave your character frozen while your left thumb moves from stick to pad and back. Jumping feels more natural.

    Even though I don't pvp, I do know that using a keyboard, with wasd and the spacebar as your settings, means your thumb is already resting on the spacebar, and doesn't have to do anything other than press down......
  • xinecallaw
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    The reason why people jump is:
    a) can make them harder to hit for players with targeting issues
    b) allows you to cover more distance when using skills, particularly blocking, than when on the ground walking
    c) if your in a group it can let other people know your in trouble
    d) can make it easier to target players that are behind another player
  • vamp_emily
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    I think Jumping is just a silent form of player taunting.

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  • Nyladreas
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    Paidkilla wrote: »
    I never really understood this, me and my friends have joked about it for years in gaming, all pvp based games have these players but it seems like Eso has always been notorious for it. Jumping while pvping. I just sat here watching about 5 duels by Undaunted and i kid you not all the ones that were slightly losing started jumping all over. Is this a frail ego, insecurity or just for fun? Anytime me and my friends pvp and the enemy starts jumping we like to assume their voice and start saying "it aint nothin, it aint nothin"! cracks me up, all this silly jumping. Does it make you better? Do i need to start?

    Actually i have no idea what the bunny hopping/jumping even serves... So far every single person I ever fought that went and done that, hindered themselves and actually let me win a whole lot easier. Especially if they went down a slope. When you get CC'd mid-jump or otherwise movement affected it actually grants your opponent another second or two to finish you off. Hitting 15k-20k relentless never felt better.

    It's hilarious when these people think hopping will help them be more defensive, while in reality they get entirely screwed by it. The only time i've ever seen success in hopping was when the person hopped off a cliff in cyro and dunked straight into a river... Yeah I didn't kill them... The slaughterfish did though! :joy: He then sent me a juicy hate tell and I almost broke my chair from laughing like a maniac.
    Edited by Nyladreas on March 13, 2020 2:25PM
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