Would you buy SP/coop ESO?

Kombinator

Dusk_Coven wrote: »

Too many things are designed to require a massive number of people to overcome the low drop rates, so some online presence would really still be required unless they wanted to just blanket multiply drops by a fat factor. Which would likely screw up too many things. But going through everything to individually tweak would probably take too long.

Other than that, yes, solo capability would be great.

Well the point of modding is the ability to alter the game the way you desire? You think drop rates too low? Mod it to 100%. You think, that combat takes too long? Increase damage dealt. You want it hardcore "dark souls style"? Increase damage taken too.

Kombinator

RefLiberty wrote: »

Nope.
I play this game because it is a MMO.
For single player purposes and goodies from Nexus mods, I'll play TES 6 when it is released.
I don't get this thread really.
Although it would be good for TES 6 to support maybe so you can quest with friend or two, like Borderlands is, it it is not something that i expect from TES series.

When i play Skyrim i always want to go beyond the perimeter. Get into Cyrodiil, and become emperor. Explore High-Rock. Help the Redguards in Hammerfell against the Thalmor, or go to the Summerset Isles, and kick the Thalmor's a** at their home.

ESO is a different timeframe, but it has a HUGE map. Far bigger, than Skyrim.

Depending on player there could be 2 reason to buy it.
1. Avoid lagg.
2. Modding support.

Sephyr

No. A thousand times no. Changing the game to fix lag issues isn't fixing the issues, it's just covering them up.

Ri_Khan

Buy?! LOL

At the rate thing's have been going, it's more likely Zenimax Media Inc. will never see another penny from me again.

Danikat

Kombinator wrote: »

Danikat wrote: »

I do play single-player RPGs, including the TES series and I'm playing to get TES 6 when it comes out.

I also play ESO solo a lot of the time, because my free time is pretty erratic so I can't commit to playing with a regular group. Since the majority of the game is playable solo and the bits which aren't usually don't connect directly to the story I don't see any reason to buy it again just to be able to play those parts solo as well.

Play those parts solo, and Skyrim scale modding.

Yes, I understand what you're suggesting. As I said the first time I don't think it's worth buying the game again to do that.

If it was a free alternate mode to the existing game then maybe I'd play it occasionally, but I would not pay for that option.

Reverb

I don’t know that I would. Maybe for $20 as a character based adventure game, but what keeps me coming back to eso requires other players. Pvp, trials, dungeons, the trading economy, and my communities in game are what I enjoy most. Take those away and eso would sit in the library like all the other SP titles I never go back to after finishing.

idk

Of course not. I would not want Zos to take time and money away from ESO to make a single-player game. It would be a waste of both. If Zos thought it would be worth the investment they would have already taken such steps.

Olauron

If it does not need logging in and be online, then I will definitely buy it. This is especially true in case of shutting servers down.

Kiralyn2000

ArchMikem wrote: »

Singleplayer ESO opens the door to modding, and that means nude body replacers.

Das goot.

And armor replacers that remove all the hip flaps!

(and most of the rest of the armor )


edit: that said... apart from people who run private servers of old MMOs, I don't think anything like this has ever happened. Part of the issue is that the only time a company would do this is when their game is finally closing down... which means that it's past the point of making money, so why spend more on making the game offline/standalone?

Twenty0zTsunami

thissocalledflower wrote: »

I would prefer a single player elder scrolls. no doubt about it. this mmorpg crap is for the birds. I cut my teeth on solo game playing in my youth and it's what i prefer and why i choose to play. All this social crap can go and i wont miss it one bit.

you realize you make the choice to play MMOs? There are literally hundreds of modern single player experiences out there.

If this is for the birds, why are you here? Are you a bird? No? Then this isn't for you. Go away?

Kiralyn2000

Twenty0zTsunami wrote: »

If this is for the birds, why are you here? Are you a bird? No? Then this isn't for you. Go away?

They could like the setting, storylines, exploration, classes, non-group combat & game mechanics, crafting, art direction, costumes & motifs, music, etc... and not the social aspect.



I mean, you can't have missed all the people playing this - and other - MMOs 99% solo, can you? And all the solo content that MMO makers produce for them? It can't be a surprise to you that a lot of people do this. (not that I support the OP's idea. But 'there's lots of solo players in MMOs' isn't anything new or surprising. Heck, I've played MMOs almost entirely solo for like 15 years now. WoW, ESO, STO, SWtOR, Secret World, TERA, City of Heroes, Neverwinter...)

rpa

I might buy Elder Scrolls Offline if it comes on sale at GOG but really do not see point of getting any more online single player games.

AhPook_Is_Here

most single player games have better combat systems.

exeeter702

I play this game exclusively because it's an mmo, not because I'm desperate for some kind of TES fix.

The orginal Morrowind is engrained into my dna and is in my list of most influential games to my lifelong hobby of gaming.

But this game being set in the TES universe is now and has always only ever been window dressing and nostalgia ticks for me. If I wanted to play a single player TES game I would do just that.

Nerouyn

thissocalledflower wrote: »

I would prefer a single player elder scrolls. no doubt about it. this mmorpg crap is for the birds. I cut my teeth on solo game playing in my youth and it's what i prefer and why i choose to play. All this social crap can go and i wont miss it one bit.

Once upon a time I enjoyed the social crap in MMOs, but like with so many things, ESO took it to a very dark place.

Everything about ESO's design is intended to irritate you into joining a guild.

Too many crafting mats? Join a guild and with at least 10 members, get access to the guild bank. That was the pre crafting bag solution.

Want to sell anything? Gotta join a guild.

Doing daily quests? You can do up to 6 of each in each zone daily, but can personally only pick up 1 yourself. Meaning you have to loiter in the zone and hope random strangers feel like sharing, or JOIN A GUILD!!!! Or take a month to finish those quest "achievements".

It's all so horribly manipulative and also just horrible.

GW2 which launched a few years earlier was praised up the wazoo for ease of access to open world group content. You just rock up and join in. EVERYONE loved that. Did ESO try to emulate their success?

Of course not!

Nerouyn

I think this is a stupid question on two fronts.

First, everyone in this forum has already spent at least some money on this game and possibly quite a lot.

And they've probably played and replayed the content many times.

You wouldn't expect them to be keen to shell out more to play the same game again, even with the possibilities of modding. And these are people who were already willing enough to look past ESO's many and varied sins which make it not a TES game.

Second, there's the business.

ZO has traded on Morrowind / Oblivion / Skyrim's good reputation, darkly. Lots of shady crap going right back to launch with eg. Imperials being a paid extra.

I suspect that many current players are like me and really don't appreciate that crap, but also don't have any better alternative. And having invested a lot of time and money in this game, continue to tolerate it.

But I won't even try Blades. I know how the company operates their online games and am not going down that road with them again.

Same for Fallout 76. Even it weren't another example of an MMO conversion stripping the single player game of it's delicious freedom of character development, I wouldn't want to buy in.

These are the very real costs of doing business darkly. You might be able to trade in goodwill - that's an accounting term which represents the real dollar value of positive feelings customers have about a business - for a quick buck now, but it's a finite property and you can exhaust it.

indigorune

No, a SP version of ESO seems pointless. I play ESO on my own all the time. I like that I have the option to play SP or switch it up and play with others. IMO the game would feel empty and boring if it was exclusively SP or even SP with co-op option.