Ravenwatch PC EU

thatESOdude

ThePedge wrote: »

fernflower wrote: »

Maggusemm wrote: »

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and I would love to read comments of these blue guys if a dominion player went to the blues side and for example didn’t let DC setting up camps all evening(setting up camps is not forbidden by the game, isn't it?) just because HE THINKS that the covenant plays unfair for any reason

Meh. Roleplayer without his zerg online to PvDoor, what do you expect him to do?

Scrolls, like the scoring system, are stupid and only benefit the outnumbering faction. If they were only tied to scoring I would not care for them, but getting bonuses because you took all keeps at 3am, or 10am, is nonsense.

I hate it when any faction does it. If anything the reverse should be in place so playing on the faction with lower population gives bonuses, like the scoring one. But immediately disappears when populations are level.

Then again this laggy cesspit doesn't need any more calculations to handle.

But you are always around our AD LFG groups zerging people too... Why is he doing something wrong?

ThePedge

thatESOdude wrote: »

ThePedge wrote: »

fernflower wrote: »

Maggusemm wrote: »

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https://youtu.be/Pj5t2slkG6I

and I would love to read comments of these blue guys if a dominion player went to the blues side and for example didn’t let DC setting up camps all evening(setting up camps is not forbidden by the game, isn't it?) just because HE THINKS that the covenant plays unfair for any reason

Meh. Roleplayer without his zerg online to PvDoor, what do you expect him to do?

Scrolls, like the scoring system, are stupid and only benefit the outnumbering faction. If they were only tied to scoring I would not care for them, but getting bonuses because you took all keeps at 3am, or 10am, is nonsense.

I hate it when any faction does it. If anything the reverse should be in place so playing on the faction with lower population gives bonuses, like the scoring one. But immediately disappears when populations are level.

Then again this laggy cesspit doesn't need any more calculations to handle.

But you are always around our AD LFG groups zerging people too... Why is he doing something wrong?

Bait.

Jaxaxo

Bit of shameless self promote

https://youtu.be/N23F3ERyMbI

Imryll

Lybal wrote: »

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Why try to play the intended way when the intended way just doesn't work ?

Because, on balance, it's the most fun? Knowing that DC will paint the map blue after we log doesn't entirely erase the enjoyment of taking what we can, pulling others away from our home keeps by tagging theirs (whether or not we think we have a real shot at actually taking their keep), and otherwise having a short-term impact on the map.

The lack of truly motivating external rewards for faction loyalty cuts both ways. Some may feel if I can't control the outcome of the campaign, why not be a jerk. Others will do what they can in the moment to help their faction. As always, we're constantly choosing the sort of people we want to be (or perhaps can't help being).

I keep PvPing despite the lag, assorted bugs, and cheats, because AvAvA siege warfare interests me, and I because I like my guildies.

Gzorbditw

ThePedge wrote: »

Meh. Roleplayer without his zerg online to PvDoor

Angeleda confirmed zerger.

JamieAubrey

Is the Hammer bugged ?

Last 2 nights i've been on (1900-0000 ) there hasn't been a hammer spawn, usually happens around 9-10

Unless they spawned before I log on or after I log off

thatESOdude

Imryll wrote: »

Lybal wrote: »

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Why try to play the intended way when the intended way just doesn't work ?

Because, on balance, it's the most fun? Knowing that DC will paint the map blue after we log doesn't entirely erase the enjoyment of taking what we can, pulling others away from our home keeps by tagging theirs (whether or not we think we have a real shot at actually taking their keep), and otherwise having a short-term impact on the map.

The lack of truly motivating external rewards for faction loyalty cuts both ways. Some may feel if I can't control the outcome of the campaign, why not be a jerk. Others will do what they can in the moment to help their faction. As always, we're constantly choosing the sort of people we want to be (or perhaps can't help being).

I keep PvPing despite the lag, assorted bugs, and cheats, because AvAvA siege warfare interests me, and I because I like my guildies.

AD painting the map Yellow is fine? XD

Qbiken

Imagine being able to play in Ravenwatch after 2 PM......

Imryll

thatESOdude wrote: »

Imryll wrote: »

Lybal wrote: »

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Why try to play the intended way when the intended way just doesn't work ?

Because, on balance, it's the most fun? Knowing that DC will paint the map blue after we log doesn't entirely erase the enjoyment of taking what we can, pulling others away from our home keeps by tagging theirs (whether or not we think we have a real shot at actually taking their keep), and otherwise having a short-term impact on the map.

The lack of truly motivating external rewards for faction loyalty cuts both ways. Some may feel if I can't control the outcome of the campaign, why not be a jerk. Others will do what they can in the moment to help their faction. As always, we're constantly choosing the sort of people we want to be (or perhaps can't help being).

I keep PvPing despite the lag, assorted bugs, and cheats, because AvAvA siege warfare interests me, and I because I like my guildies.

AD painting the map Yellow is fine? XD

As fine as blues or reds painting it blue or red.

Actually, the most fun I've had recently in PvP was when DC and EP had taken all our castles and one of our scrolls, and we managed to hold onto Mnem and retake BM despite both other factions swarming behind our gates. When I log in (usually about 8-10 pm Euro time (2-4 pm my time), it's common for us to be down to one to three castles. Often we'll push back from that low, but there's definitely give and take, and yellows know all too well what it's like to fight hopelessly outnumbered. As I said, "on balance." I've yet to encounter any faction not prone to painting the map their color when they get the chance.

thatESOdude

Imryll wrote: »

thatESOdude wrote: »

Imryll wrote: »

Lybal wrote: »

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Why try to play the intended way when the intended way just doesn't work ?

Because, on balance, it's the most fun? Knowing that DC will paint the map blue after we log doesn't entirely erase the enjoyment of taking what we can, pulling others away from our home keeps by tagging theirs (whether or not we think we have a real shot at actually taking their keep), and otherwise having a short-term impact on the map.

The lack of truly motivating external rewards for faction loyalty cuts both ways. Some may feel if I can't control the outcome of the campaign, why not be a jerk. Others will do what they can in the moment to help their faction. As always, we're constantly choosing the sort of people we want to be (or perhaps can't help being).

I keep PvPing despite the lag, assorted bugs, and cheats, because AvAvA siege warfare interests me, and I because I like my guildies.

AD painting the map Yellow is fine? XD

As fine as blues or reds painting it blue or red.

Actually, the most fun I've had recently in PvP was when DC and EP had taken all our castles and one of our scrolls, and we managed to hold onto Mnem and retake BM despite both other factions swarming behind our gates. When I log in (usually about 8-10 pm Euro time (2-4 pm my time), it's common for us to be down to one to three castles. Often we'll push back from that low, but there's definitely give and take, and yellows know all too well what it's like to fight hopelessly outnumbered. As I said, "on balance." I've yet to encounter any faction not prone to painting the map their color when they get the chance.

Youve literally out of touch with reality though... AD log in the morning 2 bars vs 1... they haver a +1 advantage and cap ALL keeps and scrolls... when you log in it is primetime so there are even numbers... Then because AD have logged in ALL DAY, they log out first... Trust me, it is not "fighting hopelessly outnumbered"... That was 2 years ago with @Eevee ... now AD is literally the zerg alliance throughout the whole day... only eveninng it balances and then AD get pushed back BECAUSE they cant fight at all even with even numbers... And they get demoralized and log out hence you see them lose pop before DC XD

Psychopote

AD zergling, pvpdooring and trash-talking in chat all the morning. DC stealing scrolls, hammers, trolling and giving fake news in chat all the morning.
Seems that each faction play with the game rules that ZOS gave to us.
The faction lock won't probably come back on this campaign so....I think the best way to enjoy the game is to deal with that and to go ahead

Qbiken

Imagine what the map would look like if AD didn't get help from CP refugees coming to ravenwatch after they're done with their nightcapping on Gray Host

Not that it matters anyway because there's no point playing in Ravenwatch after 2 Pm due to performance issues

Imryll

Qbiken wrote: »

Imagine what the map would look like if AD didn't get help from CP refugees coming to ravenwatch after they're done with their nightcapping on Gray Host

Not that it matters anyway because there's no point playing in Ravenwatch after 2 Pm due to performance issues

Funny. I hear the same complaint about the other factions being bolstered by CP refugees on AD (at different times of day/phases of the campaign). Also about other faction players logging onto AD characters to do what they can to undermine the AD war effort. But if you are determined to embrace victimhood, I won't attempt to dissuade you.

Kadoin

Qbiken wrote: »

Imagine being able to play in Ravenwatch after 2 PM......

You can play, but it will be nothing like you could ever imagine...

Lattengrabscher

shameless self promote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=751wv2YknGU&t

DracoKaiser

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aN7VVGqZxM&feature=youtu.be

Xarc

it's balanced for DC having 2bars pop when AD & EP have full locked pop.
Because when DC have full pop, they get emp and scrolls, making other faction ragequit, and this during primetime.

Bergzorn

I'm not recording video, but let me also share a great afternoon of PvP with you in an old-fashioned text based way:

- log in around 3 pm UTC, map looks not all terrible, only one scroll missing, no AD emp
- port to Nikel in hope of some random skirmishes
- need to go afk at Glade due to work stuff for nearly an hour
- port to Nikel, ride to Roe in hope of some random skirmishes
- get snipe desynced and zerged hard, respawn at Nikel
- need to go afk again
- finally done with all rl stuff, Nikel still blue but Ash is red and needs to be retaken to prevent EP emp
- take a minute to scroll through the zone chat ramblings of a certain person, sadly no high-quality drama today
- ride towards Ash in hope for some major zerg surfing
- small skirmish on the way, notice skill delay is already more than one second
- log out around 5 pm UTC, since it's just not worth it with this performance

Will probably try again tomorrow, even tough I'm not sure why.

Tigor

Game is unplayable at primetime (19:00-22:00 CET) and therefore not giving a fair challenge in pvp.

Lattengrabscher

i would rather say from 17:00-24:00 its completly unplayable and before and after its kinda playable

red_emu

Actually even in prime time it's not as bad as it was a few weeks ago. I wouldn't call it smooth experience but they are doing something in the right direction. Who knows? Maybe a few more years and there will only be a little lag?

Bergzorn

red_emu wrote: »

Actually even in prime time it's not as bad as it was a few weeks ago.

Maybe, but then again, it was a real [snip] a few weeks ago. It's still bad enough to make me log out way before prime time.

Zerging and zerg surfing works relatively fine, but I can only enjoy that so many hours a day.

[Edited to remove Profanity]

JamieAubrey

Is ZS back but under a new name ? Saw Sanct/Hexies etc last night

Thraben

JamieAubrey wrote: »

Is ZS back but under a new name ? Saw Sanct/Hexies etc last night

ZS is AoE Rats.

Unfortunately, they seem to leave the server before 9:00 pm CET. The reds could really need a regular presence in Nikel.

Maggusemm

Game is unplayable due to lacking server capacity during prime hours. Lag, lag and lag and lag.

The campaign is not locked and can therefore not be called campaign any more with different factions. It is characterized by reloggers on all sides who manipulate low-pop bonus and then shift again, emperors who are bombers and are two hit kills in a normal fight but play all day long (do they even have a a life?) and therefore earn many points. Players that relog to steal scrolls to "protect" them. Guilds that relog with the wrong faction and attack the other faction - this all useless because its no real campaign any more. What do these people think? Do they think "their" faction wins? There are no factions, its not locked. I personally play all factions in this Campaign and its disgusting to see which behavior players have.

Other players with thousands of hours pvp experience farm cp 200 guys in Towers and then post Videos on YouTube. Its so ridiculous.

Why does ZOS assign points to a "Campaign" which is not locked? Makes no sense at all. Just log in and read zone chat, how poor …

But its good to get transmutation stones!

red_emu

Maggusemm wrote: »

Game is unplayable due to lacking server capacity during prime hours. Lag, lag and lag and lag.

The campaign is not locked and can therefore not be called campaign any more with different factions. It is characterized by reloggers on all sides who manipulate low-pop bonus and then shift again, emperors who are bombers and are two hit kills in a normal fight but play all day long (do they even have a a life?) and therefore earn many points. Players that relog to steal scrolls to "protect" them. Guilds that relog with the wrong faction and attack the other faction - this all useless because its no real campaign any more. What do these people think? Do they think "their" faction wins? There are no factions, its not locked. I personally play all factions in this Campaign and its disgusting to see which behavior players have.

Other players with thousands of hours pvp experience farm cp 200 guys in Towers and then post Videos on YouTube. Its so ridiculous.

Why does ZOS assign points to a "Campaign" which is not locked? Makes no sense at all. Just log in and read zone chat, how poor …

But its good to get transmutation stones!

I agree. No alliance lock is destroying this campaign. Last night DC pushed all the way to AD base camps with hammer and Warden zergs. 5 minutes later AD went from pop lock to 2 bars and DC went from 2 bars to pop lock.

I think that says it all...

Rianai

red_emu wrote: »

I think that says it all...

Yes. Remove hammer!

red_emu

Wow. Entire groups exploiting self res bug tonight. And they say *** are not cheaters 😑

red_emu

I will probably get all the trolls trying to bait me for this question but if you are willing to be constructive, I am curious:

Why nearly entire DC population is gate camping AD all day every day, yet letting EP retake half the map? Is it just to win the campaign (which would make sense, I guess) or are people really this greedy for AP they will share one kill between 30-40 players?

I would appreciate a constructive answer, please.

Rianai

Why don't you ask your fellow AD players? They certainly have to know ...