Can we please lower the filesize?

Rizz_the_Filthy_Dino

Zenimax, can you please for the love of all that is holy lower the filesize from 125+ gigs to like 60 or 70? I know some people will rationalize that the game is complex, etc etc etc; however, 125+ gb really is a lot lol. I cannot update the game right now on my little 256GB HDD and have removed all other games on my SSD, as well as a ton of other files.

I have been using WinDirStat to try and figure out where a lot of the space is on my computer being taken up and a found out a lot of the files I have are essential. Instead of the user deleting everything on his or her machine, could you guys just lower the file size? I know for a fact the dang language files are downloaded and are like 10GB a piece or something, and we download 3 or so of them. I always delete all the language files other than the English one; however, with this new update, I can't even patch the game lol.

Gwahiir

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/513470/how-to-update-on-an-ssd-with-only-50gb-free-space

This method should help you

Pyr0xyrecuprotite

As with ANY other software you might install, ESO requires space for the initial installable downloaded file, PLUS temporary file space used for unpacking the installable, PLUS the final game folder. The temporary files don't get deleted until the new version has been installed successfully, for fairly obvious reasons. So yes, it's kinda challenging to install if your disk is low on space.

Rizz_the_Filthy_Dino

I uninstalled the game originally thinking they were doing something with the filesize. Everyone in the ESO community has been talking about how Zenimax was about to lower the size of the game, so I just removed it incase the launcher or something corrupted my files or whatever by removing/compressing files.

Octopuss

Why is it so difficult to delete the entire game and just start fresh installation? With this update it's exactly the same as updating, only without any problems if you do the former.

Rizz_the_Filthy_Dino

Octopuss wrote: »

Why is it so difficult to delete the entire game and just start fresh installation? With this update it's exactly the same as updating, only without any problems if you do the former.

Wrong, it's not the exact same. They did not reduce filesize, the game requires 125GB to download or update. I know this because I did delete the entire game.

SydneyGrey

You'll have to delete the game off your computer and re-download it again.

Pyvos

Rizz_the_Filthy_Dino wrote: »

Octopuss wrote: »

Why is it so difficult to delete the entire game and just start fresh installation? With this update it's exactly the same as updating, only without any problems if you do the former.

Wrong, it's not the exact same. They did not reduce filesize, the game requires 125GB to download or update. I know this because I did delete the entire game.

With compacting (via CompactGUI) set to XPRESS 8K, mine is 66.7GB on live compared to 83.1GB on PTS (before the update 25 landed on it). My download was even less because of existing assets that were kept or shuffled. There is indeed a difference.

Rizz_the_Filthy_Dino

Pyvos wrote: »

Rizz_the_Filthy_Dino wrote: »

Octopuss wrote: »

Why is it so difficult to delete the entire game and just start fresh installation? With this update it's exactly the same as updating, only without any problems if you do the former.

Wrong, it's not the exact same. They did not reduce filesize, the game requires 125GB to download or update. I know this because I did delete the entire game.

With compacting (via CompactGUI) set to XPRESS 8K, mine is 66.7GB on live compared to 83.1GB on PTS (before the update 25 landed on it). My download was even less because of existing assets that were kept or shuffled. There is indeed a difference.

I uninstalled the game and it was forcing me to have at minimum 125GB, just saying what the launcher told me.

Kaspar

Pretty annoying they made it require just slightly larger than the popular 120GB SSD size. Like they couldn't have made it require just slightly smaller. Now i need to either go out and buy a bigger SSD or drag out an old HDD, format it, download, download again, copy it, repair it, and hope it works. What a PITA!

Maybe I'll bother re-installing it someday.

Alinhbo_Tyaka

I expect the download to be around 60GB - 70GB and the new installed client is 66.7GB (I didn't pay attention to the download size). It doesn't surprise me the game needs 125GB to perform the install as work files, etc aren't removed until the installation is complete.

woe

My game went from 99.7GB to 84.1GB after the new install.

Curious_Death

i care only about performance.. for me game can be 500 gb just wanna see smooth fps when doing cyro pvp or HM trial

thissocalledflower

Maybe someone forgot to update the file size requirements on the new download....?

Rizz_the_Filthy_Dino

Curious_Death wrote: »

i care only about performance.. for me game can be 500 gb just wanna see smooth fps when doing cyro pvp or HM trial

That's all well and good, but when people refuse to reinstall because they can't, that affects who you're PvPing with and doing trails with. Like two posts up, one guy straight up walked away from the game because it was too big to play lol.

BloodMagicLord

"lower the filesize from 125+ gigs to like 60 or 70?"
I don't think it's reasonable for them to cut their game in half because of a few people playing on potatoes.
There are definitely aspects of the game that need optimizing but people who complain about file size aren't making a reasonable request in my opinion.

M_Volsung

daim

If you have a tiny SSD

move stuff to bigger HDD
make symlink
update
remove symlink
move back to SSD
(+remove the extra language files if you have them and dont need them).

easy.

merevie

Had this issue. 2 seconds to resolve.

Removed game by installing using my computer's program uninstall system - not Steam's. 1 sec

Went to Steam and pressed Download on ESO -1 sec

(Saved screenies first)

We all made the assumption they would begin the process by uninstalling the game - it seemed to be implied in their communications. 125GB is what it told me also.

daim

Oh and one more tip. Dont use Steam to download the game, use the original ;P

Katahdin

Time to update and add a bigger drive.

Odd thing is the ESO folder on my computer before the update was 62GB so I don't know where the 125 is coming from?

twev

Katahdin wrote: »

Time to update and add a bigger drive.

Odd thing is the ESO folder on my computer before the update was 62GB so I don't know where the 125 is coming from?

Check to see what extra stuffs you have in the folder?

sParkSnare

FWIW this non-Steam user had no problems updating with much less than 125 GB free. I have a 500 GB SSD, and had 61.4 GB free space before updating. Started the ESO Launcher and the update started downloading. Roughly 3 hours later the update completed and I'm playing U25. I now have 79.8 GB free.

Katahdin

twev wrote: »

Katahdin wrote: »

Time to update and add a bigger drive.

Odd thing is the ESO folder on my computer before the update was 62GB so I don't know where the 125 is coming from?

Check to see what extra stuffs you have in the folder?

It was the entire eso folder where the game is installed except for the user settings, addons and screenshot files that are placed under documents. The entire game took up 62 GB, but the launcher is requiring 125 for some people for some reason. I'm fine. I have more than enough space available on my 500GB game drive.

I specifically checked the size of the folder when I was among sure I had enough space for the new download and backing up user files.

I do not know what the new install size is as I have not been home since the update finished

barney2525

Just curious - how old is your computer?

I bought a new one less than a year ago just for gaming and ran into your issue. When I checked the system, for some idiotic reason, windows changed the partitioning sizes. Used to be C drive was huge and D was small, primarily for restore issues.

My new computer the C drive partition is small and the D drive is huge. Which sux because now I can't simply load games using the quick install option - which targets your C drive. I have to manually change the install location to D drive.

Might be worth checking

daemonios

BloodMagicLord wrote: »

"lower the filesize from 125+ gigs to like 60 or 70?"
I don't think it's reasonable for them to cut their game in half because of a few people playing on potatoes.
There are definitely aspects of the game that need optimizing but people who complain about file size aren't making a reasonable request in my opinion.

Do you even English? Nobody is asking ZOS to cut their game in half. The fact is that their requiring the equivalent of an entry-level SSD just to begin the process of downloading the game, when in the end of requires just over half that.

Katahdin wrote: »

Time to update and add a bigger drive.

Odd thing is the ESO folder on my computer before the update was 62GB so I don't know where the 125 is coming from?

Ah yes. The customer is always guilty of not owning a big enough, powerful enough machine. I'm guessing where you're from either HDDs/SSDs grow in trees, or you can easily afford them. I can too, by the way. Not that I'd spend any more money for the sole sake of ESO.

ganzaeso

make sure your launcher is not trying to update PTS and Live at the same time. Combined those values would add up to ~120 GB

Katahdin

daemonios wrote: »

BloodMagicLord wrote: »

"lower the filesize from 125+ gigs to like 60 or 70?"
I don't think it's reasonable for them to cut their game in half because of a few people playing on potatoes.
There are definitely aspects of the game that need optimizing but people who complain about file size aren't making a reasonable request in my opinion.

Do you even English? Nobody is asking ZOS to cut their game in half. The fact is that their requiring the equivalent of an entry-level SSD just to begin the process of downloading the game, when in the end of requires just over half that.

Katahdin wrote: »

Time to update and add a bigger drive.

Odd thing is the ESO folder on my computer before the update was 62GB so I don't know where the 125 is coming from?

Ah yes. The customer is always guilty of not owning a big enough, powerful enough machine. I'm guessing where you're from either HDDs/SSDs grow in trees, or you can easily afford them. I can too, by the way. Not that I'd spend any more money for the sole sake of ESO.

If you actually read my entire post besides just the first line, I stated it was odd the launcher wanted 125 GB instead of 60.

Every game has minimum specs required to play. If the game is 60 GB, you can't expect it to fit on a 50GB drive or a drive the does not have enough space available after the OS and other necessary programs are installed.

ESO requires more space than solitaire or tetris, and you can't put 5.5 gallons of dog poo in a 5 gallon bucket

So yes, it is up to the user to have a machine capable of running the game.
It is not ZoS's problem if the computer has too small of a hard drive.

If the computer is a desktop, right now an internal Western Digital 500 GB hard drive can be purchased for $25 on Amazon which is less than what most people pay for one month of Internet service. An external one us $40. If that is out if your reach, perhaps you should be doing something other than gaming with your time because you can't even afford the Internet service.

daemonios

Katahdin wrote: »

daemonios wrote: »

BloodMagicLord wrote: »

"lower the filesize from 125+ gigs to like 60 or 70?"
I don't think it's reasonable for them to cut their game in half because of a few people playing on potatoes.
There are definitely aspects of the game that need optimizing but people who complain about file size aren't making a reasonable request in my opinion.

Do you even English? Nobody is asking ZOS to cut their game in half. The fact is that their requiring the equivalent of an entry-level SSD just to begin the process of downloading the game, when in the end of requires just over half that.

Katahdin wrote: »

Time to update and add a bigger drive.

Odd thing is the ESO folder on my computer before the update was 62GB so I don't know where the 125 is coming from?

Ah yes. The customer is always guilty of not owning a big enough, powerful enough machine. I'm guessing where you're from either HDDs/SSDs grow in trees, or you can easily afford them. I can too, by the way. Not that I'd spend any more money for the sole sake of ESO.

Every game has minimum specs required to play. If the game is 60 GB, you can't expect it to fit on a 50GB drive or a drive the does not have enough space available after the OS and other necessary programs are installed.

ESO requires more space than solitaire or tetris, and you can't put 5.5 gallons of dog poo in a 5 gallon bucket

So yes, it is up to the user to have a machine capable of running the game.
It is not ZoS's problem if the computer has too small of a hard drive.

Right now a Western Digital 500 GB hard drive can be purchased for $25 on Amazon which is less than what most people pay for one month of Internet service. If that is out if your reach, perhaps you should be doing something other than gaming with your time.

Again for those who don't seem to get it: ESO requires 66 up to around 85gb, but in order to install it you need 125gb free. I don't know of any game with similar requirements. Also, this isn't about me, as I've stated several times before. Finally, expecting players to pay for inefficiency is only going to get us more of the same mentality: if it doesn't run well, throw more resources at it, and crucify whoever dares bring up the subject of optimization.

ArchMikem

Just uninstall then reinstall instead of trying to update.

Katahdin

daemonios wrote: »

Katahdin wrote: »

daemonios wrote: »

BloodMagicLord wrote: »

"lower the filesize from 125+ gigs to like 60 or 70?"
I don't think it's reasonable for them to cut their game in half because of a few people playing on potatoes.
There are definitely aspects of the game that need optimizing but people who complain about file size aren't making a reasonable request in my opinion.

Do you even English? Nobody is asking ZOS to cut their game in half. The fact is that their requiring the equivalent of an entry-level SSD just to begin the process of downloading the game, when in the end of requires just over half that.

Katahdin wrote: »

Time to update and add a bigger drive.

Odd thing is the ESO folder on my computer before the update was 62GB so I don't know where the 125 is coming from?

Ah yes. The customer is always guilty of not owning a big enough, powerful enough machine. I'm guessing where you're from either HDDs/SSDs grow in trees, or you can easily afford them. I can too, by the way. Not that I'd spend any more money for the sole sake of ESO.

Every game has minimum specs required to play. If the game is 60 GB, you can't expect it to fit on a 50GB drive or a drive the does not have enough space available after the OS and other necessary programs are installed.

ESO requires more space than solitaire or tetris, and you can't put 5.5 gallons of dog poo in a 5 gallon bucket

So yes, it is up to the user to have a machine capable of running the game.
It is not ZoS's problem if the computer has too small of a hard drive.

Right now a Western Digital 500 GB hard drive can be purchased for $25 on Amazon which is less than what most people pay for one month of Internet service. If that is out if your reach, perhaps you should be doing something other than gaming with your time.

Again for those who don't seem to get it: ESO requires 66 up to around 85gb, but in order to install it you need 125gb free. I don't know of any game with similar requirements. Also, this isn't about me, as I've stated several times before. Finally, expecting players to pay for inefficiency is only going to get us more of the same mentality: if it doesn't run well, throw more resources at it, and crucify whoever dares bring up the subject of optimization.

If you read my entire first post instead of just the first sentence, I said that I don't know why the launcher is asking for 125 GB when the game is 60.

Unless, as another poster suggested it is trying to download the game and the PTS.
they usually don't do both at the same time though so I doubt it.

Regardless, 250GB is very small for what most gaming machines use these days.