+80 k dps how ?

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  • codierussell
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    Everyone who thinks that you need to "cheat" or say that you can't get those kind of buffs in actual content are just lying to themselves to feel better. You can watch videos with combat metrics of groups where dps are hitting these numbers in content. For it only being in optimized groups is only somewhat true. The resistance debuffs should be in every group. If there isn't a torugs 2h crusher, major/minor fracture and breach your group is missing something since these are easy to get. If you don't have 100% uptime on combat prayer then healers need to work on their rotation. Most groups even go above and beyond the buffs on a trial dummy, things like martial knowledge and zens are used in a lot of endgame groups.

    The same is said with sets. To simply say a build is not viable because it uses "cheese" sets is crazy. Liko has a video on youtube were he keeps full stacks of siroria up during a vas+2. Clearly not just a parse set. Of course he is one of the best dps in the game and progs probably shouldn't be doing it but to write off a set entirely like that is crazy.

    At the end of the day ask questions and learn, that is how you get better. Simply saying people are cheating or chalking it up to something else is irresponsible. Grow up and practice like the rest of us did.
  • Czekoludek
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    I understand the game mechs quite well. As OP said, I'm max CP and can copy the exact gear, CP setup, everything from a video of someone hitting 80k+ and still can only reach 36k max. I saw someone in zone chat talking about how they can bind their entire rotation to one key, so all they got is one button and sit back while their rotation is played out flawlessly for them. That's cheating imo. I also think target dummies should stun the attacker or something every once in a while because real dungeon/trial bosses just don't stand there while getting attacked.

    Do it in reaal raid environment and you will die faster then you could say "macros are bad". It's nit hard to hit 80k on trial dummy with most of the classes, hitting 90k+ requires specific class and really good skills.
  • Conduit0
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    L2Pissue wrote: »
    I'm here to clarify that these builds are useless for the average player or even the experienced player, as the optimal raids on pc eu for example are 4-5 groups, the rest try to mimic them with same builds but end up wiping indifenitely.
    end game raiding in ESO is devastated by guilds trying to min/max instead of actually ditching some damage in order to favor the survival of other group members

    Oh the sweet sweet irony of this post combined with that name. What you're saying is complete and utter nonsense, the standard raid builds put out by people like Alcast/Liko/etc are more than survivable enough if you're even halfway competent. If you're getting hit for more damage than these builds can survive it's because you screwed up royally and you're going to die no matter how much dps you give up in exchange for more survival.
  • Kalante
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    Atronach dummy and cheesing your skills are the only way to get 70k+ dps on a magicka nb. Two unrealistic scenarios.

    A. You will never have all buffs running 100% of the time on a real trial.

    B. The skill bar used on a attronach dummy is not realistic in real settings. By settings I mean trial mechanics. Example, cheesing.

    C. Atronach dummy parses are stupid and fake.

    6m test dummy is the only real way to test a class. It shows what the classes are capable off. If a class cant sustain by itself or if they are lacking damage. The atronach dummy elimates all of those issues but it doesnt mean that they are still not there. If everyone had 100% buff how wondeful would that be. Everyone working together but realistically thats just not true. That is why new players find it so hard to do group content and get into trials because there are these fake expactations and unrealistic numbers/scenario unless you are in an elite trials team.
    Edited by Kalante on February 23, 2020 5:06AM
  • BackStabeth
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    Test your DPS on the dummy type that will give you the correct information for the content you are doing.

    People will say and claim all kinds of wild, crazy things. It does not matter. If someone brags about the DPS hitting a dummy, well they probably are looking for validation or to boost their ego, who cares honestly. Their DPS does not matter, it's your own DPS that matters, and specifically in regards to the content you are doing.

    Tweak your build, use metrics or other tools so that when you change around your point distribution, armor/weapons/jewelry you can compare.

    Watching YouTube content providers might give you pointers, it certainly couldn't hurt, but ultimately your game play style in comparison to the gear you are testing will be different than guides written or on YouTube. You very well might do far more significant damage and be more of a real contribution doing 30k DPS on a trial dummy, than someone who does 60k DPS on a trial dummy. There are times you will do significantly more actual damage than people who can do far more DPS on a dummy than you, and are higher CP.

    Remember, hitting on a dummy is for your benefit alone, you don't need to brag to anyone about it or compare your DPS to anyone else, it's a guide, a test, a way to measure your play style, point distribution and gear so you can improve. And also remember, those who brag are doing so because they want you to think of them a specific way. Personally, when I see these things in chat I just put the person on ignore, I think that type of behavior is distasteful and personally, I would prefer to make people wonder than to remove all doubt.
  • BeamsForDemacia
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    post starts good, ppl give real help, half page further …. MACROS, best excuse for ppl that are too incompetent and lazy to practice Rotation or Change their *** Setup xD , but yeah These endgame Player are cheating so hard on their Trial dummy with op Sustain and buffs and its very useful to bind ur Rotation to 1 key if u have to switch Targets /bock/dodge
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  • BeamsForDemacia
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    and in no world someone who deals 30k on the Trial dummy can be a better contribution than someone who deals 60k (unless he is not dead more than 50 percent of the time)
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  • mocap
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    trial dummy gives you 50% boost, afaik. Though i don't know is it true this days, cuz i never saw 60k parse on 3k dummy.
  • thorwyn
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    Trial dummy parses are like a benchmark. It's a test setup for what you can achieve under optimal conditions, i.e. standing still, getting 100% buffs and sustain uptime. Whatever you score on a trial dummy, the goal is to get as close to this as possible under raid conditions. That's the purpose of those dummies and nothing more.
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  • AgaTheGreat
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    Neoealth wrote: »

    This. They are kind of cheating. Allows you to use unlimited synergy buffs. Gives you back resources as well of course.

    This is just a good testing environment with every class getting the same buffs. It helps comparing dps accross classes. It's just a tool, just like ESO logs. With ESO logs being superior when it comes to refining your uptimes and so on. Trial dummy helps you get muscle memory that you can later use in a real encounter. It's not cheating.
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  • robpr
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    The whole point of parsing is not to simulate the trial environment (that's impossible, unless you invite the whole raid to your house and smash the Dwarven Centurion dummy), but to practice rotation, speed and uptimes in standardized environment showing the absolute ceiling what you can do.
    Using the trial dummy allows to compare with others and get quick advices without checking what classes have certain buffs and debuffs and what not.

    I repeat again, DUMMIES ARE NOT TO REPLICATE ACTUAL RAID BOSS! There are a lot of additional variables, adds, non-100% uptimes, movement, mechanics, amount of synergies(there are more in raid that one per 20s)
  • Asys
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    Stebarnz wrote: »

    No, I can pull 50+ 6mil and 80+ trial, its really not that hard when you understand the game mechs.

    can you post a video with 50+ 6mil and 80+ trial? thx
    I need TP for my ***!
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  • Neoealth
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    This is just a good testing environment with every class getting the same buffs. It helps comparing dps accross classes. It's just a tool, just like ESO logs. With ESO logs being superior when it comes to refining your uptimes and so on. Trial dummy helps you get muscle memory that you can later use in a real encounter. It's not cheating.

    I know, that's why I said it's "Kind of" like cheating. I was not saying it's actual cheating. Just in the sense that you get buffs and crazy sustain, unlike a regular dummy. That's all I meant.
  • JanTanhide
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    As others have posted the Trial dummy helps immensely.

    If I may suggest something: Don't worry about super high DPS on the Trial dummy. Sure, it looks impressive and all that but can that person who achieved that number stay alive and do that kind of damage in hard core Vet dungeons? Especially the DLC dungeons? (Not Trials where there are potentially four buff/support players)

    I've seen some "glamorous" Streamers tout how much damage they do on the dummy and one day one of those streamers ran Vet Scalecaller Peak with other Streamers. It was an interesting time for sure.

    That glorious Streamer got hammered over and over and died more times than a noob in his/her first dungeon. I could hear his frustration at being humiliated by his own boasting.

    36K is more than I usually get and my goal is to stay alive and beat the dungeons.
  • codierussell
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    @JanTanhide That may be true that there are streamers that don't know anything (some mainstream ones too), but not all streamers are like that. The main ones know what they are doing and prove it by completing the hardest achievements in the game.

    Take th3asiangod for example. Great content creator and has amazing videos that help everyone in the community. He follows the meta in most of his builds, and runs them in hard content. I bring him up because he literally has videos of his group running the hardest trials, hits those numbers and has a video of himself hitting 80k where he set it up to prove endgame players don't use macros.

    I also use meta builds and I have all 4 man achievements except unchained, completed all vet trails and only have a couple hard modes left. I also hit 80k. Just because you hit hard doesn't mean you can't survive during content.
  • Runefang
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    JanTanhide wrote: »
    As others have posted the Trial dummy helps immensely.

    If I may suggest something: Don't worry about super high DPS on the Trial dummy. Sure, it looks impressive and all that but can that person who achieved that number stay alive and do that kind of damage in hard core Vet dungeons? Especially the DLC dungeons? (Not Trials where there are potentially four buff/support players)

    I've seen some "glamorous" Streamers tout how much damage they do on the dummy and one day one of those streamers ran Vet Scalecaller Peak with other Streamers. It was an interesting time for sure.

    That glorious Streamer got hammered over and over and died more times than a noob in his/her first dungeon. I could hear his frustration at being humiliated by his own boasting.

    36K is more than I usually get and my goal is to stay alive and beat the dungeons.

    The old “sure but can they actually clear content” chestnut. I was waiting for that one.

    Yes there are exceptions where high dummy dps players are bad just like there are a few players who deal (relatively) low dummy dps but still are decent in real content. But the number of exceptions are very low.
  • gatekeeper13
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    Achieving a high dps in a trial dummy doesnt mean it will be transfered in the dungeon or trial. In a trial dummy, you get buffs you may not get from your group and also you stay still. In trial/dungeon, you dont stay still, especially when there are AoEs you have to evade.

    The reason why the trial dummy and every dummy are a great help is because they help you practice and improve your rotation.

    I started from doing 15k dps, went to 20k dps, then to 28k dps, now I do 40k dps and I hope I can get it even higher some day. All that came by practice against dummies.
  • codierussell
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    Achieving a high dps in a trial dummy doesnt mean it will be transfered in the dungeon or trial. In a trial dummy, you get buffs you may not get from your group and also you stay still. In trial/dungeon, you dont stay still, especially when there are AoEs you have to evade.

    All three vss fights you basically stand still. vhof first, third and final boss you stand still. vcr for the most part are standing still. All craglorn trials you stand still. vmol first boss you stand still.

    Believe it or not you actually stand still on a lot of trial fights. Even more so when you are able to dps through mechanics. vmol twins and vhof triplets actually get easier if you can stand still and put out crazy high dps.

  • santhoranb16_ESO
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    Just remember what dummys are for: For practicing and to compare DPS.
    For that are dummys great and compare same dummys to achieve somewhat compareable results.

    But keep in mind for yourself, that these trial dummy parses are not real dps for most, in dungeons its not even possible (not enough players to buff everything and keep 100% uptime) and in trials its only in high end trials guilds that truly watch their buffs to reach the full set of em.
    Edited by santhoranb16_ESO on February 23, 2020 9:36PM
  • Stebarnz
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    Asys wrote: »

    can you post a video with 50+ 6mil and 80+ trial? thx

    No, but there are many many many out there, its not a hard thing to do, new players have an excuse they are learning, max cp players have no excuse, I don't have a video card nor do I have the inclination, but GL.
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    weaving+animation cancel
  • Runefang
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    kindred wrote: »
    weaving+animation cancel

    Plus BiS gear, excellent rotation knowledge and tons of practice.
  • Kalik_Gold
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    Stebarnz wrote: »

    No, I can pull 50+ 6mil and 80+ trial, its really not that hard when you understand the game mechs.

    How much on 3mil?
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    Ras Kalik the Vestige, a renown Redguard warrior; He has been blessed to save Tamriel from Molag Bal’s destructive Planemeld while reuniting the Five Companions. His further accomplishments after defeating Molag Bal, has been to stop the destruction of Morrowind, the Clockwork City, return order to the isle of Summerset and create a new king in Wrothgar and a queen in Elsywer. These events have made him a living legend and continue to lead him into new adventures throughout Tamriel, as well as into the hearts of many ladies including the Elf Queen, Aryenn. Over many years of adventurous travels, Ras Kalik had become a loner, until he re-visited his homeland of Alik'r.

    Alik'r and it's cities were overrun by the undead Ra-Netu and therefore he made an allegiance with Alik'r's own Ash'abah tribe. These Ash'abah with his help, cleansed the city of Sentinel in Alik'r desert and it's surrounding areas of the undead brought to life by the Withered Hand. After rescuing Sentinel from the undead zombies, King Fahara’jad’s personal bodyguard the Goliath of Hammerfell, who was given this name by Imperials in the region; was asked to assist the tribe after learning of the defeat of the Withered Hand to the Ash'abah. Kalik promised Goliath he would task him with fighting living enemies on the battlefield if he so desired. Goliath being a Yokudan warrior wields a massive sword in respect to the Ansei, a gift given by the Imperial, Cinan Tharn. Not many soldiers are able to wield double two handed weapons, but Goliath loves to get up and personal in a fight, so he also carries a giant maul, both weapons laced with magical flames.

    Jux Blackheart is a master thief that masquerades as a Bard at the Sisters of the Sands inn, with his younger sidekick Lucky Hunch for pilfering and gambling during this time. Jux was known to infiltrate any towns bank vault he came across and even delved into Ayelid ruins without detection. Kalik can vividly recall the night he met the famed thief. Jux found himself rummaging thru a slightly inebriated Kalik’s pocket for too long, on a full-mooned night and because of his greed and the glimmer of his golden armor in the moonlight. He lost his left pinky fingertip as a lesson! But in return, he gained a new friend, as it was his first time since a child being caught red-handed...

    Upon arrival back in the Alik'r after many moons of adventuring, Ras Kalik ventures to Bergama. Visiting The Winking Jackal, he runs into Jux Blackheart, who introduces him to the coin game Crowns vs Forebearers (Heads vs Tails) and Golden Dwemer (RBG).... Jux constantly takes gold from the unfortunate thru theft or gambling, his biggest gambling victim is actually his partner in crime known as Lucky Hunch the Gambler. Lucky doesn't mind losing any gold coins to Jux... as Jux saved him from Altmer slavers in Summerset, by stealing a key and sending him on a boat to the mainland years prior. Lucky spent years in slavery with Khajiits in Summerset and picked up the art of subterfuge, using illusion magic disguises and stealing there.

    Kaotik Von’Daemon an outcast, and a half-caste between a Breton mother and a Redguard father. Kaotik become a pariah due to his conjuration of Daedra pets. He was taught healing magic during his childhood years by his Breton mother. His father due to Redguard customs exiled him from the desert, sending him by wagon caravan to be a soldier in the war in Cyrodiil. He happened to meet Kalik while traveling from Alik'r, during this long caravan ride the caravan he was in was ambushed in Bangkorai by a group of bandits. Kalik by chance was also traveling thru this area on his Auridon Warhorse (which was bestowed to him by his friend, Darien Gautier). During this ambush, Kalik was able to rescue five hostages from the bandits. Kaotik was the first rescued, and Ras Kalik also recruited him to be in the Ash'abah tribe. These core Ash'abah tribesmen may never be seen together in travel as they partake in their own adventures but they always know what each other is doing; as they frequent a hideout in northern Bankorai. Their hideout an old Orc castle ruin, is kept watch by Nuzhimeh and she passes messages written between them, and frequently they also enjoy her company and her bed.

    The other men rescued were a Dunmer banker, an Imperial mercenary and two other soldiers, an Imperial and a Breton Knight, stating proudly he was an Akavir descendent. One of the Imperials, Cinan, claimed to be related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (One of Ras Kalik's mentors in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn was really Abnur's drunkard treasure hunting illegitimate son. He was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayleid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder of the two Imperials was Tyrus Septim a retired Imperial navy battle-mage (now a Lycan mercenary living in the city of Rimmen) and guard to the Tharn family. As much as Abnur Tharn hated his half-sister Euraxia, he dislikes his bas†ard son Cinan more. Tyrus now a ruffian and privateer had been paid by Abnur Tharn to watch over Cinan as much as possible. Cinan Tharn a drunkard, loves to drink at least a quarter barrel of Nord mead before he raids various delves and dungeons for relics to sell on the black market. Cinan also plans to one day, run an illegal gambling ring... which he thinks will net him more gold for his wares.

    The Dunmer captive shackled to the Imperials looked familiar to Kalik from his time in Morrowind.... and he recognized him as Tythis Andromo a House Telvanni slave-owner and banker from Vvardenfell. During a rough interrogation to Tythis, Ras Kalik learnt why the bandits accosted him. The racist Dunmer was providing slaves as soldiers for the Three Banner War. The bandits were trying to negotiate a lucrative ransom for Andromo and the Imperials.... Kalik did not need any of this gold and he could never set Tythis free as he did with the two Imperial soldiers. His past involvement with slavery and war crimes, made Kalik's blood boil. He chose not to execute Tythis, as he figured the worse punishment for this former rich and opulent slave owner, is to now be an imprisoned servant for Ras Kalik and the tribe.

    Herzog Zwei the Genesis a reknown Imperial/Akavirri battle-mage. His roots going back to Akavir through his mother’s bloodline. (His mother is descended from the Akaviri, through Versidue-Shae, and his Imperial father met her in Hakoshae, while traveling) Herzog earned the nickname "the Genesis" from his father as a child, as he was his mother's first born child, and last, as she tragically died in child-birth.

    Herzog was seeking to purchase an artifact from Cinan Tharn, before their capture and was meeting Tyrus while in Rimmen, who introduced him to Cinan. This artifact being the Ayelid artifact; the sword Sinweaver. After their rescue and the exchange of gold to Cinan for the sword he decided to slip away before Ras Kalik could question who he was, and why the Akavir descendant really wanted that sword. Herzog was headed to Nagastani — An Ayleid ruin in eastern Cyrodiil. He had read in scrolls that the Sword would give him magical powers to meet his mothers spirit, if he performed an Ayleid ritual at an old shrine hidden there. Equipped with the artifact sword, he was off to start his own adventure but Ras Kalik, did indeed notice the sword however and instead sent a letter to Jux Blackheart (whom also was interested in Ayleid treasures), to attempt to find Herzog and acquire the sword. (*Azani Blackheart in Elder Scroll's Oblivion is Jux's descendant some 747 years later)

    And so the Redguard, Imperial and Akaviri men parted ways ... While Ras Kalik went off to Elsweyr to encounter the latest threat to Tamriel, with Abnur Tharn and Sai Sahan - - DRAGONS!! Little did Ras Kalik know a few people were awaiting him in Senchal besides Sai. A necromancer survived his attack on the Withered Hand, while in Alik'r. The necromancer known as Auriek Siet'ka is also following him to the land of the Khajiits and Cacique the Sage of Ius a Shaman mystic who has become attuned spiritually with Tu'whacca (a Redguard God) and Ius (the Animal God), after being burned severely by the escaped dragons in Elsywer, is awaiting his arrival also. Aurik is a soldier of the Daggerfall Covenant that was introduced to necromancy while in the military, even though this magicka art is not spoken of openly by most of the Military leaders. He came to Alik'r and worked with the Withered Hand before Ras Kalik intervened on their plans. After the defeat of the Withered Hand, he aligned with the Worm Cult, and is constantly adapting and perfecting his necromantic arts.

    After his journey to Rimmen, Kalik heads south to Senchal, in the southern regions of Elyswer. This new adventure will also put him on a path to meet a strange Redguard man. The stranger which was infected with an untreated Peyrite disease and also was the exiled from the Order of the New Moon cult, due to his sickness. He originally joined the cult to worship Laatvulon, the green dragon, mistakenly thinking it was the Daedric prince Peyrite. This confused and suffering cultist is known as Tsar al-Bomba and he is on a path to spread the disease. He was originally infected in Orccrest while recruiting members there. Can Ras Kalik and the shaman Cacique cure this poor soul, only time will tell. Little does Tsar al-Bomba know, that his infection is tied to Vampirism, and eventually the desire for blood will take over his mind. Senchal also offers Kalik his latest love interest... Aeliah. Whom he fondly led thru battles with the Dragonguard.

    After the trek thru the heat, tropical and desert climate of Northern and Southern Elyswer, Ras Kalik heads north to the cold mountain range of Skyrim. His companion friend Lyris beckons for him with a letter sent by crow...

    Movárth Piquine - a former vampire hunter (now infected), within the Fighter's Guild (and a secretive necromancer) was in Skyrim working with the Morthaal Guard. On a patrol mission he was caught in Frewien's ice curse outside of Morthaal with the frozen undead. Movárth's vampiric infection kept him from becoming an undead minion to the curse. He was able to use necromantic ice-magic to encase himself safely until he was freed with Freiwen, when the Vestige Ras Kalik broke the curse.

    Uri Ice-Heart - brother of Urfon Ice-Heart. The twin sons of Atli and Oljourn Ice-Heart. The Ice-Heart family are originally from Markarth but now reside on the Jerall Mountain range near Cyrodiil, with their younger sister Araki. The twins had joined the Winterborn Reachmen while living in Markarth. Urfon pushed west to Orsinium with the Winterborn Clan, leaving his family behind. Uri stayed behind with his parents and sister to live in the family cabin for safety, avoiding the Vampire plague infiltrating the Reach. After news reaches him and he hears of Urfon's death... Uri leaves and heads home and is seeking vengeance. Meanwhile, his sister has also moved on to Windhelm to join the Fighter's guild. He will visit his sister, once before going to seek vengeance and she will craft him armor mixed with ice, called Stalhrim armor. Uri fearing death, after his brother's passing, falls victim to the convincing talk of Movárth at a Nordic tavern, and will also becomes a vampire.

    {time moves forward through the hour-glass}
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  • Heelie
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    parsing is really down to 3 things

    Correct gear. You don’t need the absolute best in slot, but having full legendary gear, and sets that compliment each other is a good start.

    correct CP. A lot of people tend to run very wrong CP, often stacked into one or two trees. Make sure you spread out CP a lot, because they’re front loaded which means that there are heavy diminishing returns the more point you put into a single slot.

    Correct rotation. Rotations in the absolute end game include things such as bash weaving, which can be hard to perform. Bust mostly the correct rotation that will lead you beyond the 70k+ mark is: Weaving + tracking dots. if you can successfully weave between every attack as well as maintain your dots properly you will reach 70k+ in a few tries.


    Try an Alcast build, he's the only big content creator that does optimized builds. Liko has the absolute bis on his channel. But that gear can be very hard to obtain for some people, the rotations that he use can be very hard to replicate as well. 92k+ is the ceiling at the moment depending on your RNG
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  • IlCanis_LupuslI
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    Noctus wrote: »
    im seeing some videos in youtube with people reaching 80 k dps on dummies. i personally hit 36 k with maxed out everything. how is this possible. im using spellstrat and new moon + zaan. tripple resource enchants on armor. infused on mainhand staff. playing magnb. im using atronarch mundus otherwise regen feels to low. i have 2k magicka regen. i use arcane traits on jewelry.
    spell pen 11 k and crit 52 % chance. spellpower unbuffed 3 k.

    pls only constructive posts

    https://i.ibb.co/4pWhP35/dps.png

    I'm at 78.2k on my khajiit magsorc with mothers/sioria /zaan.
    Triple bloodthirsty on jewelry precice inferno staff.
    I use a static rotation because I'm on console and my rotation is far from perfect.
    The 80k is on the 21 mill raid buffed dummy with parsing food.
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  • ZoM_Head
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    Noctus wrote: »
    im seeing some videos in youtube with people reaching 80 k dps on dummies. i personally hit 36 k with maxed out everything. how is this possible. im using spellstrat and new moon + zaan. tripple resource enchants on armor. infused on mainhand staff. playing magnb. im using atronarch mundus otherwise regen feels to low. i have 2k magicka regen. i use arcane traits on jewelry.
    spell pen 11 k and crit 52 % chance. spellpower unbuffed 3 k.

    pls only constructive posts

    https://i.ibb.co/4pWhP35/dps.png

    My best with a magicka Sorc and 2 pets was a total of 70K dps, i see 90-100K in the beginning due to ultimate(s) but the only things holding me back is the game/server performance.

    My character always likes to pause a second or two before a cast actually happens, heck sometimes even after pressing a skill numerous times, no cast is performed.

    Despite an expensive high end gaming PC and 50 ping, it is just the card i was dealt with in ESO and just have to accept it.

    But yes, being very quick, ani cancelling, weaving etc is a major role in this game, be it end game high DPS PvE or AvA (which is another joke all together for me).

    Let us see what today's patch will bring.
    mDKs still need a lot of love!
  • danara
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    If you don't have 100% uptime on combat prayer then healers need to work on their rotation.

    I agreed with everything you said, except this.

    If your healers can provide at leats 70% of combat prayer they are good. Combat prayer last 8s, if you put at least 1 seconde to refreshed it you cant get more than 88%, and saying that healers have a "rotation" clearly show that you dont know what you are talking about !

    We healers, dont have only combat prayer to use, i dare you to play zen + mk, to manage your CP uptime, your dots uptime, your mk uptime, and also your stamina pool at the same time, i didnt say it is impossible but quiet hard.

    I dont think i am a bad healer, i alone can achieve in general between 92 and 96% of prayer (on a solo healer vSS) but saying that meeeeh, i dont know why it tickled me :') sorry <3

    But as i said ! i agrree with 100% of what you said, that this situation is easy to get on trials, and that most of the times we get a better situation than on dummy (more synnergies....)
  • Septimus_Magna
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    Noctus wrote: »
    im seeing some videos in youtube with people reaching 80 k dps on dummies. i personally hit 36 k with maxed out everything. how is this possible. im using spellstrat and new moon + zaan. tripple resource enchants on armor. infused on mainhand staff. playing magnb. im using atronarch mundus otherwise regen feels to low. i have 2k magicka regen. i use arcane traits on jewelry.
    spell pen 11 k and crit 52 % chance. spellpower unbuffed 3 k.

    pls only constructive posts

    https://i.ibb.co/4pWhP35/dps.png

    Like others have said its on the raid dummy that gives all the buffs. Personally I think 36k dps self-buffed is a really good point to start from, especially with some of your build choices.

    One thing that stands out is that you use NMA but have to run the Atronach mundus to sustain your rotation. Compared to Julianos (which is not the best set) you trade 451-300=151 spell dmg for a mundus stone. The Apprentice mundus (which is not the best mundus) already gives 238 spell dmg so its not the best trade-off. For magicka dps setups you're better off running Mother's Sorrow, False God and the Shadow mundus. Most people also run precise on the front bar weapon and infused on the back bar to increase the buff of the weapon/spell dmg enchant.

    Spell strat is strong in single target fights but the downside is that its basically useless for AoE dps. Depending on the fight I would switch this for Mothers Sorrow.
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  • VDoom1
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    How people get such insane damage has always been a puzzle for me. I struggle to get 20-30k on a normal dummy, so I'm like what?? o.O I prefer going on my main who is a tank anyways. Still, I'd like to have a good DD.

    As others have said, the recipe to 40k damage or higher is a mix of things. CP set up, skills, rotation and gold gear. Gold gear can be tricky to get, my best DD is wearing purple/epic gear. As well as practice, a great deal of practice. Especially with light attack weaving which I'm working on myself. It is definitely not easy to master animation cancelling with light attacks and all that. Going as a DD isn't very easy, not if you wanna do a lot of damage.
    Edited by VDoom1 on February 24, 2020 8:42AM
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