Official Discussion Thread for "Learn About the Performance Improvements & Free Pet With U25"

ZOS_SarahHecker

This is the official discussion thread for "Learn About the Performance Improvements & Free Pet Coming with the Patching Overhaul" blog article.

Learn about what makes Update 25 and the Patching Overhaul so important and the special pet we’re giving away in thanks!

January1171

Can we get an explanation why there is an event right in the middle of this period?

Tommy_The_Gun

I have even better question...
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/streamers
(scroll the bottom calendar, to 02/24 - Launch Day - Harrowstorm (STREAM TEAM))
So let me put it this way...
...There are twitch streams with Drops Enabled in the 1st day of the "game re-donload" thing. What do we gonna watch ? Streamers downloading the game or what ?!

mav1234

Ahh Update 25, the one in which bgs became solo queue only. Wonder if we'll ever see group or duo queues again...

redgreensunset

January1171 wrote: »

Can we get an explanation why there is an event right in the middle of this period?

Yeah in the middle of an event? Brilliant timing /s And since the event tickets are now pure rng if you get them or not... this is just an absolutely ingenious decision.

idk

I am not one for pets but it is a nice gesture.

nightstrike

January1171 wrote: »

Can we get an explanation why there is an event right in the middle of this period?

Please ensure that this question is answered during the stream.

ZOS_GinaBruno

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

I have even better question...
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/streamers
(scroll the bottom calendar, to 02/24 - Launch Day - Harrowstorm (STREAM TEAM))
So let me put it this way...
...There are twitch streams with Drops Enabled in the 1st day of the "game re-donload" thing. What do we gonna watch ? Streamers downloading the game or what ?!

The Drops don't start until that evening at 7pm EST, so there should be time for some of them to download by that time. If we're seeing that the majority haven't downloaded at that point, we can move the Drops out a bit to accommodate.

Pyr0xyrecuprotite

redgreensunset wrote: »

January1171 wrote: »

Can we get an explanation why there is an event right in the middle of this period?

Yeah in the middle of an event? Brilliant timing /s And since the event tickets are now pure rng if you get them or not... this is just an absolutely ingenious decision.

The event tickets are NOT pure RNG. Pretty much any mob that you kill in Murkmire will drop your event tickets, if it's the first murkmire stuff you have killed that day (since the daily reset at 2am EST). The important requirements are:

1. check your inventory currency tab FIRST before going into Murkmire, and spend tickets at the Impressario if you have 10 or more event tickets. You won't get any tickets at all if you already have 12.
2. Turn autoloot and consolidate mob loot on, and loot everything
3. make sure that you loot the boss or trash mob bodies (reminder that only the top highest 12 damage dealers get loot from bosses, so you may have to kill stuff until you DO get loot)

January1171

In another post it was stated that it's a chance, not guaranteed @Pyr0xyrecuprotite

ZOS_SarahHecker wrote: »

Hey all, just to clarify a few points on Event Tickets before the start of the event:

All three tickets drop at once (rather than one at a time.) Even though there is only a chance for them to drop, that chance is quite high for basic enemies and even higher for World & Delve Bosses. That being said, you might want to turn on auto loot before the event to make sure you're grabbing everything.

trackdemon5512

@ZOS_GinaBruno can we get some clarification for console if it’s better/necessary to manually delete the game from the hard drive before reinstall OR if the update process will simply overwrite everything that is currently there? Also, if both of those two processes are viable would there be any advantages in terms of system performance/order with just going for a full clean reinstall after a deletion?

redgreensunset

Pyr0xyrecuprotite wrote: »

redgreensunset wrote: »

January1171 wrote: »

Can we get an explanation why there is an event right in the middle of this period?

Yeah in the middle of an event? Brilliant timing /s And since the event tickets are now pure rng if you get them or not... this is just an absolutely ingenious decision.

The event tickets are NOT pure RNG. Pretty much any mob that you kill in Murkmire will drop your event tickets, if it's the first murkmire stuff you have killed that day (since the daily reset at 2am EST). The important requirements are:

1. check your inventory currency tab FIRST before going into Murkmire, and spend tickets at the Impressario if you have 10 or more event tickets. You won't get any tickets at all if you already have 12.
2. Turn autoloot and consolidate mob loot on, and loot everything
3. make sure that you loot the boss or trash mob bodies (reminder that only the top highest 12 damage dealers get loot from bosses, so you may have to kill stuff until you DO get loot)

Except it is. RNG decides solely whether or not a kill gives you tickets or not. It is pure RNG if you get tickets that kill or even that day. I know their "high chance of dropping" thanks.

This decision is pure idiocy, to let RNG decide if you get tickets or not and they know how damn unpopular this was in Dragonrise and how much it bugged out exactly because of the looting mechanism especially with WBs, so I'm impressed with anyone up enough their arse to defend it.

I don't have auto loot on and I will NEVER have it, it's a thoroughly annoying feature imo. Trying to force it on players like this is another idiotic move.

Nah, they can shove this event.

bri5

trackdemon5512 wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno can we get some clarification for console if it’s better/necessary to manually delete the game from the hard drive before reinstall OR if the update process will simply overwrite everything that is currently there? Also, if both of those two processes are viable would there be any advantages in terms of system performance/order with just going for a full clean reinstall after a deletion?

After this download will I still need to use my disc?

Octopuss

Hmm, I've been thinking - will this data optimization even make ANY loading times difference for people playing the game off a SSD? (that's like 70%+ in this time and age I'd say)

James-Wayne

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

I have even better question...
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/streamers
(scroll the bottom calendar, to 02/24 - Launch Day - Harrowstorm (STREAM TEAM))
So let me put it this way...
...There are twitch streams with Drops Enabled in the 1st day of the "game re-donload" thing. What do we gonna watch ? Streamers downloading the game or what ?!

On PTS I had mine downloaded in a hour of PTS going live so it shouldn't take too long to download and I'm on a 50/50 Fibre connection from Australia.

wolfie1.0.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

I have even better question...
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/streamers
(scroll the bottom calendar, to 02/24 - Launch Day - Harrowstorm (STREAM TEAM))
So let me put it this way...
...There are twitch streams with Drops Enabled in the 1st day of the "game re-donload" thing. What do we gonna watch ? Streamers downloading the game or what ?!

The Drops don't start until that evening at 7pm EST, so there should be time for some of them to download by that time. If we're seeing that the majority haven't downloaded at that point, we can move the Drops out a bit to accommodate.

Do we have any general idea as to when we can start downloading the new client? I would hate to start the process and find out I have to redo it.

Dusk_Coven

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

...There are twitch streams with Drops Enabled in the 1st day of the "game re-donload" thing. What do we gonna watch ? Streamers downloading the game or what ?!

Watch them play a better game than ESO maybe.

Hamfast

Ok, Ok, so my dial-up is slow and spotty and you are only allowing 2 weeks for the download and then to be able to get the pet... let alone the Murkmire event...

Octopuss

Dialup? Where do you live? Some alternative universe?

Buddy_Bradley

Octopuss wrote: »

Hmm, I've been thinking - will this data optimization even make ANY loading times difference for people playing the game off a SSD? (that's like 70%+ in this time and age I'd say)

/cries in 2013 spec machine

Susan_Sto

@ZOS_GinaBruno, will Steam users be able to download the update via the launcher like normal, or are we going to have to re-download the game via Steam itself?

Octopuss

Buddy_Bradley wrote: »

Octopuss wrote: »

Hmm, I've been thinking - will this data optimization even make ANY loading times difference for people playing the game off a SSD? (that's like 70%+ in this time and age I'd say)

/cries in 2013 spec machine

Of course there are some unhappy people out there (actually I do have a PC from 2012 myself, but I got me a SSD and my life quality increased immensely). I'm just curious whether SSDs will see any meaningful improvements. I doubt it though.

CaffeinatedMayhem

YAY Red torchbug pet!

Hallothiel

bri5 wrote: »

trackdemon5512 wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno can we get some clarification for console if it’s better/necessary to manually delete the game from the hard drive before reinstall OR if the update process will simply overwrite everything that is currently there? Also, if both of those two processes are viable would there be any advantages in terms of system performance/order with just going for a full clean reinstall after a deletion?

After this download will I still need to use my disc?

@ZOS_GinaBruno
@ZOS_JessicaFolsom

An clarification on all these points for console would really be appreciated (PS4)

ZOS_SarahHecker

@Hallothiel you will still need a disk to play the game after this update if you currently use a disk to launch it.

As far as uninstalling first, there is no need for you to do anything manually. The patch is like any other update and should write over your previous version of the game.

bri5

ZOS_SarahHecker wrote: »

@Hallothiel you will still need a disk to play the game after this update if you currently use a disk to launch it.

As far as uninstalling first, there is no need for you to do anything manually. The patch is like any other update and should write over your previous version of the game.

What would I need to do in order to not use a disc anymore?

marius_buys

@ZOS_SarahHecker

Please confirm for clarity sake:
MAINTENANCE 7am-5pm UTC
DOWNLOAD GAME 5pm UTC
STREAM 12pm UTC

Myfanwy

Could you please confirm if all our skill points will be reset with this patch?

Thanks!
Myf

ManwithBeard9

Myfanwy wrote: »

Could you please confirm if all our skill points will be reset with this patch?

Thanks!
Myf

There's no reason for them to be reset. If they do anything about skills resets, the respec shrines will b e discounted.

ihtizar

@ZOS_GinaBruno should i re-download the steam version? because i don't want old version and new version to take space in the hard drive. if i download from steam again this should solve the problem of not having 2 copies of the same files

Mofasa

It wasn't that bad, it only took me 2 hours to update the game with this patch.