Animation Cancelling the most important issue?

phermitgb
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So, I have opinions about animation cancelling. In ESO, in other games, etc. So do you...probably. I say this, because whenever the subject of animation cancelling comes up, people seem to come out in unexpectedly large numbers to voice their passionate opinions. So, regardless of my personal stance on A/C, I'm wondering, how important is animation cancelling as a subject/talking point to the general community of ESO, and thought I'd try to craft a poll that might give us (and possibly devs) some light on just what kind of priority animation cancelling should be for ESO going forward.
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Animation Cancelling the most important issue? 294 votes

ANIMATION CANCELLING IS THE MOST IMPORTANT SUBJECT EVER!!!
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Animation cancelling is the most important discussion priority of ESO
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Animation cancelling needs to be a high priority discussion for ESO
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Animation cancelling should be just as important as all the other ESO features
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Animation cancelling should be a low priority discussion for ESO
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Would you all kindly please shut the hell up about animation cancelling!?
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Other, and the reason for having an "other" option is important enough that I'll explain why...
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  • idk
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    The poll seems messed up.

    What is the difference between the first two choices? Nothing really. All the answers are pretty meaningless at that. Everyone chooses if they want to partake in a thread about AC or not and to what degree. The poll answers are pretty meaningless and mostly only talk about discussions.

    Edit: I will point out there was a recent thread with a poll, and many before it, that were much better worded for giving feedback to Zos. The most recent one was overwhelmingly Pro-AC by a huge margin.
    Edited by idk on January 30, 2020 12:20AM
  • xxthir13enxx
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    Would you all kindly please shut the hell up about animation cancelling!?
    If only we could AniCancel AnimationsCancelling threads....
  • TequilaFire
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    Would you all kindly please shut the hell up about animation cancelling!?
    It is that time of year again.
  • Paramedicus
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    Animation cancelling needs to be a high priority discussion for ESO
    I think that exploitation of server's hamsters are more important issue.
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  • Sylvermynx
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    Other, and the reason for having an "other" option is important enough that I'll explain why...
    I don't have an opinion on it at all. If I happen to AC, it's quite likely accidental due to my mega ping not making stuff like that very usable for me.
  • kargen27
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    Animation cancelling should be a low priority discussion for ESO
    It is in the game and it seems to be working so leave it alone.
    and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."
  • IndianaJames7
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    You poll isnt very clear to me... I enjoy ac and would be extremely disappointed if they were to remove it (to the point of likely quitting if they flat removed it) but since my views align with its current implementation, I don’t think there is anything important that needs to be changed or discussed here.
  • Iskiab
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    Animation cancelling should be a low priority discussion for ESO
    Low priority, the issue is moreso some animations are too long. They should speed up the long ones so they all fall within the GCD so there’s no need to discuss anything.
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  • Vietfox
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    ANIMATION CANCELLING IS THE MOST IMPORTANT SUBJECT EVER!!!
    Right after performance
  • Thevampirenight
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    Posted this in the blizzard thread but will post it here too.

    Well even if it was intended or not at the beginning doesn't matter but Zenimax decided to make it a feature. Likely do to the coding and maybe because they didn't see the harm. Unintended feature. Given they said they are not fixing the running on a horse while riding on a horse bug. They consider it that a feature as well or their own Easter egg. The fact is they have worked around and even made skills work better with animation canceling. Like the new classes from what I'm understanding. Zenimax isn't Blizzard they are two different companies. They have found ways to balance around the concept of animation canceling.
    So what others might consider a bug or a exploit with animation canceling others consider a feature and I do think the devs themselves if they play the game have used it. So this argument about it should go away really doesn't have any merit if Zenimax calls it a feature its a feature. Even if it was at first unintended if they say its okay and maybe a cool feature of the game and thus became a feature of the game. Sometimes happy accidents do happen. That is what the Animation canceling is in Eso. Plus anyone might have accidentally done it if they did a light attack followed up by a skill ability. So even those against it might have animation canceled.

    Another term for it could be ability weaving, Weaving abilties and attacks together to cast them faster.
    Its a feature and people should get over treating like its not because clearly to them it is. Its not going to change. Nor would they spend the resources into fixing it when they clearly work abilties to work better with it and try to keep it like it is with even the new shield changes they have coming. So they are working with it they are not getting rid of it. Why you might ask, because its a Feature.
    Edited by Thevampirenight on January 30, 2020 12:36AM
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  • AgaTheGreat
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    Would you all kindly please shut the hell up about animation cancelling!?
    I'm tired of these BS animation cancelling and weaving topics.

    AC is here to stay, people need to deal with it. 😒
    Edited by AgaTheGreat on January 30, 2020 12:20AM
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  • RefLiberty
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    Animation cancelling is the most important discussion priority of ESO
    I'm to lazy to cancellation anything, thus the vote result.

    What kind of buffoonery is animation canceling anyway, that should't be in the game, press the freaking 1-5 buttons and watch the arms waving, I don't want to cancel anything, ti is too much work.

    If I want to cancel stuff I would get myself a job in Immigration office, or the bank loan requests department. ( :# )

    That's too much work.
    Cancel animation canceling please.

    Edited by RefLiberty on January 30, 2020 12:23AM
  • Siohwenoeht
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    Would you all kindly please shut the hell up about animation cancelling!?
    It is that time of year again.

    Is it ever not that time of year /smh
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  • Iccotak
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    Would you all kindly please shut the hell up about animation cancelling!?
    There are so many other things that need to be prioritized first
  • yRaven
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    Would you all kindly please shut the hell up about animation cancelling!?
    No, let me destroy potato DPS
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  • Ri_Khan
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    Animation cancelling needs to be a high priority discussion for ESO
    From someone who really enjoys fast paced action and takes full advantage of AC, I refuse to believe that there isn"t a solution to fix the jankyness AND not butcher the flow of combat at the same time.
  • VaranisArano
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    Animation Canceling threads are to Combat what Global Auction House threads are to the Economy.

    A grand old dead horse beating party.
  • Tai-Chi
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    Other, and the reason for having an "other" option is important enough that I'll explain why...

    Animation Cancelling can be likened to the ultimate, defining "EUREKA" moment of ESO, that changed the course of combat to new heights of game-play.

    Like all Eureka moments, it came about purely by chance and that is the beauty of it. The Devs. were wise enough to realise this and announced that Animation Cancelling is here to stay.

    What is there to discuss about it? Animation Cancelling was meant to be. It is Karma. o:)



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  • starkerealm
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    Would you all kindly please shut the hell up about animation cancelling!?
    Posted this in the blizzard thread but will post it here too.

    Well even if it was intended or not at the beginning doesn't matter but Zenimax decided to make it a feature. Likely do to the coding and maybe because they didn't see the harm.

    ZOS asked the community back in the day. They decided to keep animation canceling around, because the community liked it, by an overwhelming margin.

    At the time, it would have been fairly easy to fix it. Now, less so. They certainly know how to fix it.

    This was a choice.

    Now, did the community understand what animation canceling would do? Maybe not.
  • Hoolielulu
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    I need a good old-fashioned thread about how dead npcs in towns is sickening.
  • Starlock
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    Animation cancelling should be just as important as all the other ESO features
    Animation canceling in of itself isn’t the issue. It’s in-game visuals not matching what happens.
  • Nemesis7884
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    Animation cancelling needs to be a high priority discussion for ESO
    id put it on the same level as balancing and class identity as it is essentially a piece of the same pie that needs to be looked at holistically
  • Unseelie
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    Would you all kindly please shut the hell up about animation cancelling!?
    Starlock wrote: »
    Animation canceling in of itself isn’t the issue. It’s in-game visuals not matching what happens.

    Isn't that kind of the side effect of canceling animation? The game can only respond so fast. Even some FGC engines have trouble and I am pretty sure that those have lower latency than an MMO
  • Jayroo
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    Other, and the reason for having an "other" option is important enough that I'll explain why...
    When you make threads like this, people tend to *** their pants and cry.

    Just leave the dps *** alone lol
    Edited by Jayroo on January 30, 2020 2:13AM
  • Juhasow
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    Would you all kindly please shut the hell up about animation cancelling!?
    The most important issue is that people jump to conversation about it without even knowing fully what it is and how it works in ESO and their only argument is "because it was a bug" which is no argument at all.
  • phermitgb
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    Animation cancelling needs to be a high priority discussion for ESO
    idk wrote: »
    The poll seems messed up.

    What is the difference between the first two choices? Nothing really. All the answers are pretty meaningless at that. Everyone chooses if they want to partake in a thread about AC or not and to what degree. The poll answers are pretty meaningless and mostly only talk about discussions.

    Edit: I will point out there was a recent thread with a poll, and many before it, that were much better worded for giving feedback to Zos. The most recent one was overwhelmingly Pro-AC by a huge margin.

    The difference between the first two choices is partially comedic, partially serious - it's the difference between animation cancelling is the most important subject ever (as in for every game, every movie, any place where the issue might apply - IE the concept of animation cancelling being so important that it transcends any one particular game), and animation cancelling being the most important subject FOR ESO - as in, other games, who cares about animation cancelling - but for ESO alone, AC is the most important thing we can argue about

    I did distinguish the second choice from the first by adding ESO as a subject limiter, but if you assumed that the poll was relevant only to ESO, that point could be lost.

    The poll answers DO only talk about discussions, because that is what the poll was about. The poll was not about whether or not you supported AC or not - it's just about how important it is (in your mind) to talk about vs other ESO topics.
    "There is no correct resolution; It's a test of character."
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  • barney2525
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    Other, and the reason for having an "other" option is important enough that I'll explain why...
    The Lack of Penguins in this game MUST be addressed !


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  • xXMeowMeowXx
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    Would you all kindly please shut the hell up about animation cancelling!?
    Meh....I need more caffeinated beverages and more @SantieClaws posts till work ends.


    ‘Random Memes’ should be a poll option.

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    Edited by xXMeowMeowXx on January 30, 2020 3:00AM
  • pod88kk
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    Without animation cancelling combat feels clunky(eg. Cast times on ultis) and slow
  • Destyran
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    It’s really not hard to do swap bars after pressing a skill or press skill after light attack
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