Will We Ever Get A Monk Class?

Stx

A monk class would be cool. They are in elder scrolls lore and past games so I'm down.

dazee

I would like monk to be more of a skill line which does not use a weapon. it could have a passive which buffs your stats when your weapon slots are both empty.

EvilAutoTech

Before clicking on this thread, I had wondered why anyone would want a class that is afraid of heights, germs and milk.









Yeah, really tired right now.

TheRealCherokeee3

It would be awesome if we got a "Monk" class. I'd love seeing the obsessive compulsive class inching around in a trial trying to make sure everyone is perfectly spaced in a boss fight

Shantu

Monks? Who would want to play a monk?

dazee

Shantu wrote: »

Monks? Who would want to play a monk?

Monks are a cool concept to many people. remember that Jedi are basically sci fi space monks who use a weapon.

pod88kk

Lol I just got a mental image of Friar Tuck from Robin Hood kicking and punching the bosses in VAS+2

Hamish999

Monks hit things with their hands, werewolves hit things with their hands.
So just play a werewolf and head canon that werewolves are the monks of Hircine

UnseenCat

Khajiit would be perfect for an unarmed combat skill line / monk class... Claws, kicks, leaps, even tail-slaps...

YandereGirlfriend

There is room in ESO for basically two more class archetypes:

1. Spellsword

2. Monk/Bard/Pilgrim combo class

Spellsword is straightforward, it's what we all want with the one-hand-and-magic skill line that exists for NPCs but not for players and represents a clear callback to earlier TES classes and playstyles.

And whereas I cannot see a narrowly defined Monk being a new class, I do think that there's room for an unarmed (and unarmored?) fighting style combined with other Support-type roles, aka combining Monk with the old TES classes of Bard and Pilgrim as well.

You could have Monks choosing between either a melee DPS role or an off-healer buff and debuff specialist role that uses some kind of gimmick like spiritual power and auras/mantras/chanting.

StormeReigns

UnseenCat wrote: »

Khajiit would be perfect for an unarmed combat skill line / monk class... Claws, kicks, leaps, even tail-slaps...

Soon as I read this.. especially khajiit trying to "tail-slap" this came to mind.
https://youtu.be/IUf1SbW441U?t=131

Plus we all know, if you gonna tail slap, argonian tails are maid to lift that way.

TheShadowScout

Leiloni wrote: »

Have a skill line more focused on melee physical staff attacks...

...and THAT already would be a wepon skill line, and thus unsuitable for classes.

MEBengalsFan2001 wrote: »

I cannot see Bard or Monk coming along as a class in this game.

I would have to agree.

At most, I could see them as guild skill line, like the Psijic...
...a "bard" skill line dealing with speechcraft and perhaps some spellsongs and accompaning "musical instrument" weapon options...
...or a "martial artist" type skill line that gives support skills and passives for stamina characters... combined with some sort of "mystic punching" weapon skill line that would make for a decent "monk-ish" build option...

It could be done. And despite what some may rant about, it could fit into ESO lore - IF the powers that be want to go there.

dazee wrote: »

I would like monk to be more of a skill line which does not use a weapon. it could have a passive which buffs your stats when your weapon slots are both empty.

That is a possibility, but... its far more likely to work out if they make a "magic puncher" skill line, with some "mystic bandages" weapons, and let people throw magically enhanced punches - because in TES lore, there are no "cinematic martial arts" where people punch through armor on sheer stamina, the eso "mystic martial arts" would be combining stamina and magica and do most of the damage through magic, as the powers that be intended for the elder scrolls world.
(And people -have- been asking for some more melee-ish magica weapon options...)

Because historically, well, there is a reason why even the best martial artists went and picked up a weapon when stepping on a battlefirld, and not only because punching plate armor often results in broken fingerbones...
(BtW, the "battlefield martial arts" of the middle ages was... wrestling! Wrestle the guy in plate armor to the ground, then put a misericord through the gaps of the armor... well, or threaten to and take him prisoner, because most nobles that could afford fancy armor also were good for a nice ransom!)

Shantu wrote: »

Monks? Who would want to play a monk?

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

There is room in ESO for basically two more class archetypes:

1. Spellsword

2. Monk/Bard/Pilgrim combo class

Neither of those are -classes- in the sense as ESO uses them, but -builds-!

A "Spellsword" is nothing but a hybrid magica/stamina character, fighting equally with sword and sorcery. Which is possible in ESO... but... very, very suboptimal, sadly. (Bring back attribute softcaps! Make hybrid builds viable again!) - at best, this is a "one-handed and magic" type of new weapon skill line...

And a "monk" is a character that punches things for their combat flavor, a bard is a character that sings a lot of possibly magical songs (Hey, music is a language too, so what if they sing it instead of chant it?) and pilgrims... are just another type of religious character (which totally could be a templar sub-class someday... but that is a different discussion, to be had elsewhere...) Neither of those are classes per se, and they are not even any sort of "combo"... at best they are worth a skill line here and there.

idk

Only time will tell if we get a monk class.

Also, OP seems unfamiliar with tanking in ESO. Tank builds do not have skills that pull higher agro. The only reliable means for a tank to hold agro in ESO is with a taunt and it will stay like that for a long time. Not arguing as I am just pointing it out based on what OP said about a tank monk build.

As others have suggested, I see a monk as more of a skill line.

Bradyfjord

I would rather a skill line like the guild skills. There you could have a quest line to explain their outlook on things. Such as why their skills aren't more common.

Darkenarlol

i hope it won't happen. ever.

no need to bring to eso your kung-fu pandas from warcrapcraft


same to bards - there is not so many things as stupid as playing

some friggin' lute in the middle of the battle. leave it to korean mmos

StormeReigns

Darkenarlol wrote: »

same to bards - there is not so many things as stupid as playing

some friggin' lute in the middle of the battle.

Every one has their opinions, rare are opinions ever wrong. Yours is that rare occasion.

https://youtu.be/B2tjINqmx6A

YandereGirlfriend

TheShadowScout wrote: »

Leiloni wrote: »

Have a skill line more focused on melee physical staff attacks...

...and THAT already would be a wepon skill line, and thus unsuitable for classes.

MEBengalsFan2001 wrote: »

I cannot see Bard or Monk coming along as a class in this game.

I would have to agree.

At most, I could see them as guild skill line, like the Psijic...
...a "bard" skill line dealing with speechcraft and perhaps some spellsongs and accompaning "musical instrument" weapon options...
...or a "martial artist" type skill line that gives support skills and passives for stamina characters... combined with some sort of "mystic punching" weapon skill line that would make for a decent "monk-ish" build option...

It could be done. And despite what some may rant about, it could fit into ESO lore - IF the powers that be want to go there.

dazee wrote: »

I would like monk to be more of a skill line which does not use a weapon. it could have a passive which buffs your stats when your weapon slots are both empty.

That is a possibility, but... its far more likely to work out if they make a "magic puncher" skill line, with some "mystic bandages" weapons, and let people throw magically enhanced punches - because in TES lore, there are no "cinematic martial arts" where people punch through armor on sheer stamina, the eso "mystic martial arts" would be combining stamina and magica and do most of the damage through magic, as the powers that be intended for the elder scrolls world.
(And people -have- been asking for some more melee-ish magica weapon options...)

Because historically, well, there is a reason why even the best martial artists went and picked up a weapon when stepping on a battlefirld, and not only because punching plate armor often results in broken fingerbones...
(BtW, the "battlefield martial arts" of the middle ages was... wrestling! Wrestle the guy in plate armor to the ground, then put a misericord through the gaps of the armor... well, or threaten to and take him prisoner, because most nobles that could afford fancy armor also were good for a nice ransom!)

Shantu wrote: »

Monks? Who would want to play a monk?

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

There is room in ESO for basically two more class archetypes:

1. Spellsword

2. Monk/Bard/Pilgrim combo class

Neither of those are -classes- in the sense as ESO uses them, but -builds-!

A "Spellsword" is nothing but a hybrid magica/stamina character, fighting equally with sword and sorcery. Which is possible in ESO... but... very, very suboptimal, sadly. (Bring back attribute softcaps! Make hybrid builds viable again!) - at best, this is a "one-handed and magic" type of new weapon skill line...

And a "monk" is a character that punches things for their combat flavor, a bard is a character that sings a lot of possibly magical songs (Hey, music is a language too, so what if they sing it instead of chant it?) and pilgrims... are just another type of religious character (which totally could be a templar sub-class someday... but that is a different discussion, to be had elsewhere...) Neither of those are classes per se, and they are not even any sort of "combo"... at best they are worth a skill line here and there.

ESO's problem is that it doesn't actually use the established classes from the mainline TES games and choose instead to make these nonsensical mish-mash classes that are amalgams of the older ones:

Nightblade = Nightblade + Witchhunter + Assassin

Templar = Crusader + Healer

Dragonknight = Knight + Warrior

Sorcerer = Mage + Sorcerer (+ Barbarian)

Wardens and Necromancers have never been classes in the Elder Scrolls but are instead cribbed from other Western RPGs that feature them as archetypes (though Necromancers are basically just Sorcerers with a preference for raising the dead instead of Daedra).

A Spellsword IS a class from the mainline TES games, no different than Sorcerer or Warrior or Healer. Unlike those other classes though, ESO chose to pretend as though it didn't exist when they launched the game, which is why there are still giant holes left for new classes inspired by those from the mainline TES games.

So no, Spellsword is not a build, it is a class-in-waiting, same as Monk.

akdave0

I would think that we, as a community would want the classes we already have, to be balanced or fixed before thinking about new ones.

xaraan

Not a big "monks in Elder Scrolls" fan. At least monks in the sense of how we think of them in most RPGs.

Also, I don't see them adding an AoE taunt to the game, they've said countless times that it's not a direction they want to go and if they did, they'd be foolish to add it to only one class.

The fact you named weapons they could use just makes them another weapon class. And when you say uses stances - every class uses stances, fighting styles, techniques, etc. So a class that has to use these particular weapon types or fists only sounds more limiting than expansive.

They also are not going to design a heal line that is only magicka focused and a dps line only stam focused. That would not offer anything useful vs other builds.

The best use of something like this would be some sort of unarmed skill line with a half dozen new skills and ulti that everyone could learn. And maybe added because of some sort of Akaviri expansion years down the road because personally it's nothing I'm excited about.

As for what others are excited about - look to the reaction of a lot of players on necros - they would get some fans of a monk class or skill line, but for the most part, people would compare them to their own expectations and/or what they know of them from other games and complain about the way they ended up being implemented.

BomblePants

Hopefully not.... I’ve got visions of Mortal Kombat....

TigressCreed

Still confused with all these people wanting bards? Are you going to sing people to death and then execute them with your lyre by hitting them on the head? Sounds like the worst class to want

Deathlord92

If your monk tried punching a stamcro your knuckles would probably brake lmao then with one swing of the necro sword rip 😭

hacker725x

Monk class are good at
kata(japan sword)、martial art (attack skill)
body energy like chakura , chi (defence skill)
ritual dancer、singer、esraj player (support skill)

we saw lot of action and animation from elsweyr
i think it's cool.

Nord fist fighter
Redguard kata sword master
Khajiit cat fist *w*
Argonian singer...oh no!!!!!

snoozy

Veinblood1965 wrote: »

How about a Monk/Bard Hybrid? Everquest had them both.

Bonk!

yes please! I'm all for more classes!

Robo_Hobo

Monk is still my most anticipated future class for ESO, so hopefully. It was such a missed opportunity to not release it with Elsweyr instead of the Necromancer class due to the Khajiiti martial arts, but alas, maybe someday.

Scion_of_Yggdrasil

1mirg wrote: »

Considering that the classes we have now are imbalanced, i think adding a new class anytime soon is not a wise move. But i do understand where you are coming from and while i don't like Monks as a class in any game. I think having more classes is never a bad thing. But for now, i think they should just stick with what they already have and maybe add in a new race, since we haven't had one in like ever

Oooh a new race would be cool, but since Skyrim takes place most recently, and it only had the usual races of ES... the only race that might make sense is the Dwemer? Cant remember lore wise when they vanished, but its the only other race known in Tamriel (correct me if I'm wrong, anyone).

I need to brush up on Dwemer history/lore (used to be my favorite).

Tommy_The_Gun

New class means nerfs to base game classes, (to make new class more attractive and push new content), keep that in mind...

Scion_of_Yggdrasil

ghastley wrote: »

It would be better as a "unarmed" skill line.

Don't forget that a class is the permanent forgoing of all the other classes' skills. More classes means more commitment when you first roll the character, because the one thing that will never happen is class change.

I'd definitely be down for an Unarmed skill line.

Shoulder rush? charges forward and knocks target down
Spin kick? dmgs all nearby enemies
Uppercut? stuns target
Furry? several consecutive punches and kicks
Head Lock? Holds the target in place for X stam/sec.

Light attacks are punches
Heavy attacks are kicks

Ultimate... hm.... increases movement speed by X for X seconds, increases dmg, physical and spell resistance.... like a short super buff.

Would love to see some bar brawls lmao

Icaruzs

I don't think we have lore that suports monks in tamriel, or even bards (bards do exist but music magic ???)

Think about it, in the lore there's no province that have eastern ambientation for a monk.

Dark elfs? too busy being *** and worshipping daedra, High elfs? Too busy worshing their own ego and trying to build a perfect society.

Imperial ancient rome life style, Bretons medieval europe, Redguards africans in the desert dudes (egyptan like), Nords vikings and snow, Argonians inca culture+swamp, Elsweyr persian culture and orcs tribalism.

You see tamriel do not fit, the oriental style to introduce a monk. But akaviri do

The Ka Po' Tun, The Tsaesci and the Tang mo, apparently have rich eastern like culture. That you can check in the Tsaesci motifs that mimic feudal japan.

Maybe yokudan? but nothing in the lore tells about them fightining with their fist, and no evidence of that was showed in craglorn, bangkorai, hew's bane or the alikir desert (hammerfell areas in the game)

So you better wait an Akavir chapter that will take a long time (since they will try to dev oblivion after tamriel is done, pretty sure)

Klad

I have to admit a Khajiit monk named Thuder paws would be cool