Crown scammers!

Wrecking_Blow_Spam
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Beware that some people are pretending to sell crowns just to keep the gold and not send the goods...

Hello 😎 after a long time from this game and forums (1 and half year), I decided to play again recently with 1 of my friends pulling me back in.

Luckily I joined during the free trail period and had a blast in dragonhold, some vet dungeons and PvP! My love for the game was back but I only planned to play more casual and not spend on the game any irl money.

I saw a post selling crowns and long story short I had a spare 600kish total gold cash on game, for 550k I struck a deal for 5.5k crowns (summerset and dragonhold)... Fool on me because the guy scammed me so now I'm 550k light haha 😢
It's funny because I'm always so cautious of scammers etc, he showed screenshot of previous transaction and everything, I was originally just going to send 200k first for dragonhold, but I was impatient so sent the lot...

Anyway guys, just a warning to you this can happen (Xbox EU)
Edited by Wrecking_Blow_Spam on January 24, 2020 2:07AM
Xbox one EU
8 Flawless conquerors on all class specs (4 stam, 4 magicka)
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  • Wrecking_Blow_Spam
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    Sylvermynx wrote: »
    You hopefully kept screenies of convo? In any case, report it to ZOS. Good luck, sad to lose so much gold.

    I kept screenshots but didn't report it, even though it's a bad move to do that kind of thing, I don't think ZOS could do anything about it. It was about 90% of my total gold 😆
    Xbox one EU
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    Doesn't stand in red
  • Wrecking_Blow_Spam
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    Still try to put in a ticket, best case they'll help worse case they'll say there's nothing they can do, but at least they'll have the gt of the person scamming and if they are reported enough they .ay get banned. The crown scanners are huge on xbox na as well.

    That's a fair point, I'll report him. it's ashame we can't have a naming and shaming thread here just so we could put all scammers in a big pile together
    Xbox one EU
    8 Flawless conquerors on all class specs (4 stam, 4 magicka)
    Doesn't stand in red
  • Sylvermynx
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    If you were on PC I'd send you some gold, because no one should have to deal with this sort of "oh LORD I'm so broke". Really, report it. You might be surprised.
  • Wrecking_Blow_Spam
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    Sylvermynx wrote: »
    If you were on PC I'd send you some gold, because no one should have to deal with this sort of "oh LORD I'm so broke". Really, report it. You might be surprised.

    Ahh thanks man much appreciated 👍🙏 I've done it, will update if anything happens
    Xbox one EU
    8 Flawless conquerors on all class specs (4 stam, 4 magicka)
    Doesn't stand in red
  • Raisin
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    It's never a fun time getting scammed. I recommend recording your screen next time, as I've been told that's the best evidence you can give.
    That said, also check going rates for crowns. I dont know XBOX EU prices but if the rate is too good to be true that's also a sign to be careful.
    I'm bitter. Also hilarious.
  • r34lian
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    I also got scammed once so I reported with screenies after their generic response a week later they refunded the amount I lost not sure whether they banned that dude of not
  • Mancombe_Nosehair
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    I think zos stopped refunding gold after they updated the terms and conditions.
  • Iccotak
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    Never trust someone saying they are selling Crowns
  • Aelorin
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    The opposite is also true: Some people take the crowns, but never deliver the gold. I lost 3000 crowns that way.

    I reported that player, but never got a response from ZoS. That is now more then a month ago.

    The worst part is, that they even do not punish the scammers. You will not see any recompensation either. :-(

    Anyway: lesson learned: I will not do this ever again untill there is a secure way of exchanging crowns and gold.
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    Stealth is something.
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  • madman65
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    Report them to ESO and then roll the dice, which one do you think you`ll get lucky?
  • doomette
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    5500 crowns for 550k gold? Do I understand that correctly?

    I am surprised that nobody brought this but the deal itself was more than suspicious. Average price per Crown on PC/EU is 350, might find some good deals for 300. I know the price is a bit lower on let's say PC/NA and might be on other serves too, but I am more than sure that 100 gold per Crown is either a completely drunk player that logged in after a party and had no idea what is he doing or a scam.
    100:1 isn’t unheard of on XBox NA (not sure about EU). That’s usually the going rate in the guild I’m in unless a new batch of crown crates have just been released.
  • munchkinxx
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    doomette wrote: »
    5500 crowns for 550k gold? Do I understand that correctly?

    I am surprised that nobody brought this but the deal itself was more than suspicious. Average price per Crown on PC/EU is 350, might find some good deals for 300. I know the price is a bit lower on let's say PC/NA and might be on other serves too, but I am more than sure that 100 gold per Crown is either a completely drunk player that logged in after a party and had no idea what is he doing or a scam.
    100:1 isn’t unheard of on XBox NA (not sure about EU). That’s usually the going rate in the guild I’m in unless a new batch of crown crates have just been released.

    PS4 EU going rate is 100 to 135 per.

    The 100 is usually in guild member to member deals. I have 3 members I buy from regularly to feed my sad crate addiction and am charged a flat 120.
  • Kel
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    As there's no official system in ESO for this type of thing, the best way to not get scammed is to not participate.

    People have the freedom to be anonymous jerks online, saying and doing crazy *** they'd never do in real life.
    That anyone would put trust in anyone else they don't know in a online setting is absolutely crazy.
    A trade between long time guildies or friends is one thing...a complete stranger advertising in chat is another.
  • lillybit
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    doomette wrote: »
    5500 crowns for 550k gold? Do I understand that correctly?

    I am surprised that nobody brought this but the deal itself was more than suspicious. Average price per Crown on PC/EU is 350, might find some good deals for 300. I know the price is a bit lower on let's say PC/NA and might be on other serves too, but I am more than sure that 100 gold per Crown is either a completely drunk player that logged in after a party and had no idea what is he doing or a scam.
    100:1 isn’t unheard of on XBox NA (not sure about EU). That’s usually the going rate in the guild I’m in unless a new batch of crown crates have just been released.

    PS4 EU prices float between 100-150g per crown. I don't think prices have ever been as high as 350!
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  • Elsonso
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    Aelorin wrote: »
    The opposite is also true: Some people take the crowns, but never deliver the gold. I lost 3000 crowns that way.

    I reported that player, but never got a response from ZoS. That is now more then a month ago.

    Best to pretend that they have one, and only one, actual live customer service person who handles this for the entire game. Part time. On alternate Thursdays. They will probably get to you, but it may take a while.
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  • Olupajmibanan
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    Yeah, my appologies guys. I wasn't aware of PC EU being so much higher in terms of crown prices than other servers. You know, I am playing on PC EU, 350 is completely normal for me. When I find a deal for 300:1 I am happy as no one but still find it a suspicious deal. And now people here are talking about prices of 100-150 gold per crown which sounded like paradise to me.
  • gatekeeper13
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    If you want my advice, when you buy crowns with gold always ask them to gift you the crowns first and THEN pay them. Thats what I did and never got scammed.
  • doomette
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    Yeah, my appologies guys. I wasn't aware of PC EU being so much higher in terms of crown prices than other servers. You know, I am playing on PC EU, 350 is completely normal for me. When I find a deal for 300:1 I am happy as no one but still find it a suspicious deal. And now people here are talking about prices of 100-150 gold per crown which sounded like paradise to me.

    This is pure speculation on my part, but I imagine the price difference might be because gold is easier to acquire with the use of certain add ons, like the crafting writ one that makes doing them on multiple characters much more time-efficient (so jelly of that one). Of course not everyone uses those add-ons, but maybe enough do to make for a much richer economy in general?
  • KyleTheYounger
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    I think zos stopped refunding gold after they updated the terms and conditions.

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    This.

    ZoS (aka ZoS legal team) is both perceptive and intelligent enough not to entangle themselves with impatient gamers who have more money than common sense. I'm willing to bet the updated EULA/TOS renders the words "accountability" and "ZoS" as mutually exclusive concepts. :D

    It's bad enough when you get scammed irl over REAL and TANGIBLE assets from irl con artists. Who--if the monetary transaction was a high currency valuation--you may have most likely met in person prior to said transaction.

    Real life Ponzi schemers the likes of Madoff, who scammed 50 billion+ irl currency from the rich and duped Wall St.

    Sociopaths the likes of former billionaire CEO Elizabeth Holmes, who exploited thousands of terminally ill patients in order to scam billions from investors.

    Smaller time con men the likes of Billy McFarland who scammed hundreds of social media sheeple junkies with #FryeFestival. List is too long here...

    So as to WTH a player would ever think about using an UNINSURED entity the likes of ESO's player based economy, exchanging WORTHLESS DIGITAL CURRENCIES ---from A TOTAL STRANGER online --- whom they have zero ability to hold LEGALLY ACCOUNTABLE for said player based trade transaction??

    The logic of the "why" in all this will forever continue to elude me. :D
  • Easily_Lost
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    Sorry to hear about what happened.
    I have one question: Why not use mail with the COD option? Would that not work? Ok two questions.

    If the seller does not want to use mail, run far, far away.
    Just my 2 cents worth.
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  • zvavi
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    Sorry to hear about what happened.
    I have one question: Why not use mail with the COD option? Would that not work? Ok two questions.

    If the seller does not want to use mail, run far, far away.
    Just my 2 cents worth.

    Cant cod crown store items
  • Darkstorne
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    Iccotak wrote: »
    Never trust someone saying they are selling Crowns

    That's a bit extreme :smile: I sell Crowns on PC/EU at 150G/crown, and while I've made plenty of sales to random people I mostly advise anyone interested to do it through a guild. Varen's Legacy is a dedicated crown selling guild on PC/EU that I'm part of. The guild leader mandates a fair price and vets any sellers. There are plenty of other guilds doing a similar thing out there though.
    If you want my advice, when you buy crowns with gold always ask them to gift you the crowns first and THEN pay them. Thats what I did and never got scammed.

    Safer for you, but now us sellers can get scammed :tongue: And while you lose digital currency, we're losing Crowns we bought with real currency.
    Edited by Darkstorne on January 24, 2020 1:49PM
  • SpacemanSpiff1
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    that's a risk you take giving gold to a person you dont know.
  • Deathlord92
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    I never tried crowns or gold for crowns unless I know the person.
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