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Remove premades from trials
Gaggin
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Great job on removing premades from bgs, it was really killing the competition. Now let's expand to other parts of the game. Remove grouping in trials! It's not fair that all the good players who like playing together dominate the leaderboards as such. By making trials solo queue in the group finder we can finally have an even playing field! Who's with me?
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BaiterOfZergs✭✭✭✭✭Think we both know that’s entirely different but since we’re on the topic allow solo queues for trials...Zerg of House Smallscale, First of his name, wielder of Volendrung, battleground hero, Cyrodiil butcher, the swifft footed, OG of the Templars and first pvpers, defender of scrolls and baiter of zergs.35 -
ArchMikem✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Someone thinks they're being funny.CP2,000 Master Explorer - AvA One Star General - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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xXMeowMeowXx✭✭✭✭✭
✭Why not just give feedback and ask for a premade bgs mode?
I agree. It was a lazy decision on Zos's part and confusing because it is a social game.
They could of done this much better. I really loved doing bgs with my bf and guildies.
First pushing away long time players and now friends....
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Gaggin✭✭✭✭CeroSerotonin wrote: »This idea is stupid lol
No it's brilliant! Heck, they shouldn't allow grouping in cyro either, that would solve the 'ball group' problem once and for all.
Remember, this is a single player MMO...4 -
Gaggin✭✭✭✭That's actually a pretty good representation of these forums... or overland content...2
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Mettaricana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭How bout premade grouping for bgs and random grouping to balance that out.
And scaling trials that scale in difficulty to number of players min to queue 6 so for 12 person its current 12 person but reduce boss and adds health by a certain amount per less players to compensate. so for once we dont have to juggle 12 players all blaming eachother for failed runs and or get stuck standing in craglorn because we cant find that 2nd healer or tank or last dps.0 -
Gaggin✭✭✭✭They won't do 2 queues for bgs cus the population isn't big enough, the wait times would be horrible.
So instead they're making people who wanna play together go do different content, which is gonna shrink the population and make wait times terrible...3 -
khajiitNPC✭✭✭✭✭I’m fine with it — me and my friends have been dominating most BGs, so it’ll be fun to play against them. Not a big issue. Social aspect is still there just not with those you’re familiar with.
I do with they would consider separate game modes for BG tho.2 -
Stebarnz✭✭✭✭✭
✭I agree, removing the premades from bg's was an essential move and random queues will make it more exciting and fair as a result.
After all if you wanna pvp as a group you can go into cyro. win, win!4 -
Gaggin✭✭✭✭Let's make the whole game an 'even playing field', if Hodor wants to those top scores and world first, they need to do with a random grp of craglorn pugs...5
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Gravord✭✭✭✭✭
If you want to, or dungeon or pretty much any pve content.
No no, dungeons and trials only random q solo. You can group up only overland bosses. Would you like to basic thing of grouping with your friends and guild mates be taken away from you? In so called multiplayer game?0 -
ForzaRammer✭✭✭✭✭
✭Too bad op you don't want to play on even field?
The issue with premade bg is your opponent is often not premade, that create unfairness.
This issue clearly don't apply to pve, who care about how 'environment' cares.9 -
Stebarnz✭✭✭✭✭
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If you want to, or dungeon or pretty much any pve content.
No no, dungeons and trials only random q solo. You can group up only overland bosses. Would you like to basic thing of grouping with your friends and guild mates be taken away from you? In so called multiplayer game?
I random q solo for a lot of dungeons.
Its weird to compare pve and pvp content, one has to be fair or the competition and therefore point of doing it is gone, the other is so easy it doesn't really matter if you are pre made or not.
If you were people who ran in a premade in bg's and 'pwnd noobs' all day, what did you think was going to happen? Now you have to learn to be better player that's all.Edited by Stebarnz on January 21, 2020 12:48AM7 -
Gravord✭✭✭✭✭ForzaRammer wrote: »Too bad op you don't want to play on even field?
The issue with premade bg is your opponent is often not premade, that create unfairness.
This issue clearly don't apply to pve, who care about how 'environment' cares.
Too bad baddies are too lazy to organize groups themselves and rather demand others be forbidden to do so.4 -
Gaggin✭✭✭✭I solo queue like 90percent of the time, but sometimes I like to play with friends. Is it so hard to for people to fiend 3 friends in this game?
Just think of the so-called 'noobs' getting pwned, they can't team up with stronger players to learn to pvp, those players will probably not wanna even try now, I'll still be killing them other and over.1 -
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✭✭✭✭xXMeowMeowXx wrote: »Why not just give feedback and ask for a premade bgs mode?
I agree. It was a lazy decision on Zos's part and confusing because it is a social game.
They could of done this much better. I really loved doing bgs with my bf and guildies.
First pushing away long time players and now friends....
Kind of agree, but premade groups were destroying bgs for folk who q'd solo.
Faction locks did similar for a lot of folk in cyro, including me.5 -
Gaggin✭✭✭✭You know what bg guilds like to do? They get together and form up 3 groups of 12 to play against each other because they enjoy the competition. Believe it or not, no one likes steamrolling noobs who clearly aren't good at the game over and over.4
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svartorn✭✭✭✭✭
✭I cannot for the life of me figure out why ZOS removed group queue for BGs.
I'd really like to see some rationale for that.4 -
Gaggin✭✭✭✭Are the other 8 people unable to group up and get on comms as well? Isn't that what mmos are all about?3
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Mr_Walker✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭You know what bg guilds like to do? They get together and form up 3 groups of 12 to play against each other because they enjoy the competition. Believe it or not, no one likes steamrolling noobs who clearly aren't good at the game over and over.
Given the number of people who were doing this, obviously not "no one".
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Stebarnz✭✭✭✭✭
✭Are the other 8 people unable to group up and get on comms as well? Isn't that what mmos are all about?
Only way to get around this is to have 2 separate q's which they wont do, its been one way for ages lets try the other and see what happens.
Alternatively bg's continue to be crap. ZOS have taken action which I give em credit for.
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Kilcosu✭✭✭that'd be pretty dope to have a group finder for a 12 man trials... since there isn't that option currently. sure you might end up with potato dps or fake tank healers but that's easily rectified by kicking them and with the power of social networking with 11 other people with potentially 5 guilds and 500 members in those guilds.... finding a replacement tank, healer, dps could go smoother than say a 4 man dungeon.
so bring on solo queue TRIALS0 -
EnemyOfDaState✭✭✭✭I solo que and regularly get *** on by premade groups and I still can’t figure out why they would change it, if I cared about not getting destroyed I would form a group. Now it is just going to take me longer to get a solo que.2 -
Stebarnz✭✭✭✭✭
✭EnemyOfDaState wrote: »I solo que and regularly get *** on by premade groups and I still can’t figure out why they would change it, if I cared about not getting destroyed I would form a group. Now it is just going to take me longer to get a solo que.
Why it take longer? I know a lot of people who will come back to bg's now the cheese is gone.
Plus each game has a higher chance of being fair so your wait time for a good game will be reduced.3
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