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Snipe needs to be reworked or removed.
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I am not such a great pvp player, but with dragonhold patch I am literally seeing this skill abused so much. Focused aim or lethal arrow morph doesn't matter they are both a plague to use a decent word.
In battlegrounds is becoming way more popular each day passing and to be honest is pretty sad seeing 5stars players using is a lot, and many told me: "complain with ESO after they gutted dizzyswing, not with me".
In my death recaps especially in battlegrounds there is 90% of the time at least one Snipe morph from 5k to 9k even having almost 30k resists and full impen.
Many other times the skill causes insane desyncs and in my death recap there are 5 Snipes for 6k damage each for a total of 30k damage happened in literally 2 seconds even tho the skill have a cast time.
Another thing is the weird projectile that ignores LoS like 50% of the times.
It happens way more frequently to be behind a wall in LoS and still receiving 2 Snipe hits, it's just stupid.
What could be good changes?
Removing it completely from the game is maybe my first option and I surely won't miss it.
What you guys think?
In battlegrounds is becoming way more popular each day passing and to be honest is pretty sad seeing 5stars players using is a lot, and many told me: "complain with ESO after they gutted dizzyswing, not with me".
In my death recaps especially in battlegrounds there is 90% of the time at least one Snipe morph from 5k to 9k even having almost 30k resists and full impen.
Many other times the skill causes insane desyncs and in my death recap there are 5 Snipes for 6k damage each for a total of 30k damage happened in literally 2 seconds even tho the skill have a cast time.
Another thing is the weird projectile that ignores LoS like 50% of the times.
It happens way more frequently to be behind a wall in LoS and still receiving 2 Snipe hits, it's just stupid.
What could be good changes?
Removing it completely from the game is maybe my first option and I surely won't miss it.
What you guys think?
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MusCanus✭✭✭✭✭
In BGs there is a Snipe morph in my death recap 10% of the time. I guess you got the rest of them. Maybe you shouldn't try catching all those arrows with your knee?In my death recaps especially in battlegrounds there is 90% of the time at least one Snipe morph from 5k to 9k even having almost 30k resists and full impen.15 -
Abyssmol✭✭✭✭✭One minute ago death recap 5 lethal arrow within two seconds. Yeah this is great pvp...6
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Abyssmol✭✭✭✭✭
In BGs there is a Snipe morph in my death recap 10% of the time. I guess you got the rest of them. Maybe you shouldn't try catching all those arrows with your knee?In my death recaps especially in battlegrounds there is 90% of the time at least one Snipe morph from 5k to 9k even having almost 30k resists and full impen.
Or maybe you should play ESO and not hide and seek...7 -
IlCanis_LupuslI✭✭✭✭✭Range reduction, and damage increase. Agreed that way the snipestacking bows who stand 20m behind me their healer will actually stand infront of me and actually do more then 10k dps
[Edit to remove bait]Edited by [Deleted User] on December 20, 2019 9:05PM
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In BGs there is a Snipe morph in my death recap 10% of the time. I guess you got the rest of them. Maybe you shouldn't try catching all those arrows with your knee?In my death recaps especially in battlegrounds there is 90% of the time at least one Snipe morph from 5k to 9k even having almost 30k resists and full impen.
When an ability has 35 and 40 meters range and in a game mode where you should play objectives and where not always there is LoS possibility (even tho half the times the skill ignore walls and LoS anyway) it's hard not to catch one arrow.
I guess you are very lucky indeed.
Half of nightblades in bgs run Snipe.
Of course there are completely noob players who dies in 2 skills if you get close to them, but the majority can abuse it to a broken point.
Snipe right now is a 35/40 meters dizzyswing.1 -
Luede✭✭✭✭✭only prob with snipe ist the desync in many cases. but if u often get hit with a snipe in a bg u play so low tier that ur problem isnt snipe. i play medium armor and die to other things 95% of the time.
In Cyrodiil it can be a pain in the ass, but normaly the player that uses this skill die in a few seconds.Edited by Luede on December 20, 2019 12:40PM4 -
jadarock✭✭✭✭✭One minute ago death recap 5 lethal arrow within two seconds. Yeah this is great pvp...
Are you on xbox na?
If so you appreciated snipe last night near the sej well...
I sniped all your opponents dead when they were 3v1ing you ....
Then used an emote on their 4th who didnt jump in before you and I continued on our way to sej lol
Honestly if it didnt desync it wouldn't even be an issue2 -
jadarock✭✭✭✭✭only prob with snipe ist the desync in many cases. but if u often get hit with a snipe in a bg u play so low tier that ur problem isnt snipe. i play medium armor and die to other things 95% of the time.
In Cyrodiil it can be a pain in the ass, but normaly the player that uses this skill die in a few seconds.
And yes I can be deleted in 1or 2 globals...Edited by jadarock on December 20, 2019 1:29PM0 -
PapaWeeb✭✭✭✭only prob with snipe ist the desync in many cases. but if u often get hit with a snipe in a bg u play so low tier that ur problem isnt snipe. i play medium armor and die to other things 95% of the time.
In Cyrodiil it can be a pain in the ass, but normaly the player that uses this skill die in a few seconds.
Agreed. Desync buginess is the only problem. Dying to snipes is generally a L2P issuePC EU9 -
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✭only prob with snipe ist the desync in many cases. but if u often get hit with a snipe in a bg u play so low tier that ur problem isnt snipe. i play medium armor and die to other things 95% of the time.
In Cyrodiil it can be a pain in the ass, but normaly the player that uses this skill die in a few seconds.
Agreed. Desync buginess is the only problem. Dying to snipes is generally a L2P issue
That's a contradiction.5 -
jadarock✭✭✭✭✭only prob with snipe ist the desync in many cases. but if u often get hit with a snipe in a bg u play so low tier that ur problem isnt snipe. i play medium armor and die to other things 95% of the time.
In Cyrodiil it can be a pain in the ass, but normaly the player that uses this skill die in a few seconds.
Agreed. Desync buginess is the only problem. Dying to snipes is generally a L2P issue
That's a contradiction.
You know exactly what Weeb meant along with anyone else who's played longer than 6 months in pvp7 -
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✭✭It's a 40 meter spammable burst. It's not about whether it's op or not. It's just horribly designed.2 -
ThePhantomThorn✭✭✭✭tbh most gankers including myself hate using snipe.
there used to be the onslaught gank and the bow heavy ganks. but all have been removed. if zos adds other ways to gank removing snipe would be fine.
and ever heard of dodge roll?
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notvenousdrake✭✭✭There was a clip of someone getting desynced by a sniper they revived at a keep and got desynced as soon as they got up snipe needs to go
[Edit to remove bait]Edited by [Deleted User] on December 20, 2019 9:04PM2 -
ThePhantomThorn✭✭✭✭notvenousdrake wrote: »There was a clip of someone getting desynced by a sniper they revived at a keep and got desynced as soon as they got up snipe needs to go
Desynced.
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
in other words they died to lag.
NERF LAGEdited by [Deleted User] on December 20, 2019 9:04PM8 -
BaiterOfZergs✭✭✭✭✭Outside of the desync snipe is a mediocre skill.Zerg of House Smallscale, First of his name, wielder of Volendrung, battleground hero, Cyrodiil butcher, the swifft footed, OG of the Templars and first pvpers, defender of scrolls and baiter of zergs.6 -
JinxxND✭✭✭✭Honestly I think more issues with this skill are due to lag, so fix performance and then we won't have these issues. That being said I think the skill right now is fine after they nerfed the original damage and the 10 seconds major defile, I personally wouldn't use it as the cast time is a turn off for me and usually once on top of a snipe spammer aside from people like dark shady they all die instantly cause there are tons of counters to it and it's 90% associated with bad builds. I think if anything the whole stun from stealth should be looked at but damage wise and with its current cast time I think there are more then enough counter play measures WHEN the servers aren't lagging. Complaining to about dying to a snipe spammer that hides behind the healer is the same thing as complaining to dying to a magsorc with a healer just a stamina option available to all classesEdited by JinxxND on December 20, 2019 5:59PMPC NA -
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Abyssmol✭✭✭✭✭One minute ago death recap 5 lethal arrow within two seconds. Yeah this is great pvp...
Are you on xbox na?
If so you appreciated snipe last night near the sej well...
I sniped all your opponents dead when they were 3v1ing you ....
Then used an emote on their 4th who didnt jump in before you and I continued on our way to sej lol
Honestly if it didnt desync it wouldn't even be an issue
Damn and I thought it was all me... lol thanks for the help😁0 -
jadarock✭✭✭✭✭One minute ago death recap 5 lethal arrow within two seconds. Yeah this is great pvp...
Are you on xbox na?
If so you appreciated snipe last night near the sej well...
I sniped all your opponents dead when they were 3v1ing you ....
Then used an emote on their 4th who didnt jump in before you and I continued on our way to sej lol
Honestly if it didnt desync it wouldn't even be an issue
Damn and I thought it was all me... lol thanks for the help😁
I couldnt believe they just stood there in the middle of the field and took bombs to the dome piece lol Didnt look to los or even come find me near the tree smh
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✭✭ThePhantomThorn wrote: »tbh most gankers including myself hate using snipe.
there used to be the onslaught gank and the bow heavy ganks. but all have been removed. if zos adds other ways to gank removing snipe would be fine.
and ever heard of dodge roll?
Full heavy + PI, LA, ambush?Sarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
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ThePhantomThorn✭✭✭✭ThePhantomThorn wrote: »tbh most gankers including myself hate using snipe.
there used to be the onslaught gank and the bow heavy ganks. but all have been removed. if zos adds other ways to gank removing snipe would be fine.
and ever heard of dodge roll?
Full heavy + PI, LA, ambush?
does that still work?0 -
Xvorg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭ThePhantomThorn wrote: »ThePhantomThorn wrote: »tbh most gankers including myself hate using snipe.
there used to be the onslaught gank and the bow heavy ganks. but all have been removed. if zos adds other ways to gank removing snipe would be fine.
and ever heard of dodge roll?
Full heavy + PI, LA, ambush?
does that still work?
IDK... it has been eons since I played a stamblade ganker.
Last week I was thinking about FGs trap + snipe + silver leashSarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
I was born with the wrong sign
In the wrong house
With the wrong ascendancy
I took the wrong road
That led to the wrong tendencies
I was in the wrong place at the wrong time
For the wrong reason and the wrong rhyme
On the wrong day of the wrong week
Used the wrong method with the wrong technique0 -
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✭I never see this skill used anymore. We haven’t had snipe complaints on the forum for months, L2P or get buff3 -
jadarock✭✭✭✭✭ThePhantomThorn wrote: »ThePhantomThorn wrote: »tbh most gankers including myself hate using snipe.
there used to be the onslaught gank and the bow heavy ganks. but all have been removed. if zos adds other ways to gank removing snipe would be fine.
and ever heard of dodge roll?
Full heavy + PI, LA, ambush?
does that still work?
IDK... it has been eons since I played a stamblade ganker.
Last week I was thinking about FGs trap + snipe + silver leash
Snipe + heavy +leash is pretty strong my problem with ambush is that it always places me behind the opponent so I cant immediately follow up.
If I could follow up properly I would straight up delete leet players...
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azjuwelz✭✭✭✭Seriously they nerfed snipe a few patches back, they've nerfed nightblades several times this year. Snipe is fine--it's a cheesy skill that most accomplished nightblades don't even use. Lag is not fine.
I agree: NERF LAG!
(and there are nbs in battlegrounds? I NEVER see any of those any more!)Xbox-NA
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Tommy_The_Gun✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I just want to point something out.
Snipe was nefed and nerfed and nerfed multiple times.
At this point I am gonna dare to say: It is the de-syncs. It always were health de-syncs, not necessary a skill...Edited by Tommy_The_Gun on December 20, 2019 9:39PM5 -
TheBonesXXX✭✭✭✭✭
✭Snipe builds only pugstomp, no decent player dies to most sniper builds.
Archery is one of the harder playstyles in the game.11