ZOS behaves like a spoiled and offended child when faced with criticism and opts for censorship

Siohwenoeht

GhostofDatthaw wrote: »

Siohwenoeht wrote: »

Yuffie91 wrote: »

Sort of goes against freedom of speech imo

There is no guarantee of free speech on a privately owned forum, website, business etc.

The 1st amendment only guarantees that the government will not infringe on your freedom of speech.

Not quite true, but we signed tos

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/04/27/politics/first-amendment-explainer-trnd/index.html&ved=2ahUKEwjV3cisuLTlAhUQP60KHfvTBr8QFjAKegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw1ZOaKR3B-77267RIJvgzc2&ampcf=1

No, it does in fact work this way regardless of a TOS. Just as a steakhouse owner has the right to throw you out or ban you for staging a vegan protest in their restaurant. As @Huyen pointed out, the rules in the EU are different, but here in the States, businesses have leave to restrict almost any speech unless it is protected, which is small in scope.

lagrue

Harrdarrzarr wrote: »

His remark "post constructive feedback dev can use for a real change" was obviously placed regarding the "does zos even care" forum thread? It has nothing to do with any previous thread.

What is the result that you have in mind when creating this thread, or what result would the person have had in mind when creating the "does ZOS even care post" thread?

Bitching about something for the sake of bitching is not constructive.

This might blow your mind... but criticism is not invalid just because it's non-constructive.

I don't know what's wrong with this generation of humans that people seem to believe they're infallible to criticism unless the person criticizing them is also spoonfeeding them a solution.

ZOS repeatedly over the last 4 years or whatever it's been, constantly putting stuff in PTS that gets criticized by huge quantities of players - both constructively and non-constructively... and they always go live with it anyway - time and time again. Clearly they aren't responsive to constructive feedback as it is. I don't think there's every been a single instance of ANY PTS where players said to ZOS "this is bad, please don't do this" and they actually listened. PTS is a joke because of it.

There comes a point where asking people to be constructive is a form of diffusion of responsibility. ZOS has been at this point for years.

If I want to say to somebody "Your product is bad" - that is NOT an invalid statement. It's not my job to tell them how to make it better... it's THEIR'S.

A_Silverius

Can confirm, they also do it when criticism threads get too long.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/459007/wood-elf-bosmer-losing-stealth-passive-an-open-letter/p1
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/415511/dissapointed-that-nocturnal-looks-like-a-budget-cosplayer/p1
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/422207/should-nocturnals-character-model-be-updated/p1
All locked.

FierceSam

lagrue wrote: »

Harrdarrzarr wrote: »

His remark "post constructive feedback dev can use for a real change" was obviously placed regarding the "does zos even care" forum thread? It has nothing to do with any previous thread.

What is the result that you have in mind when creating this thread, or what result would the person have had in mind when creating the "does ZOS even care post" thread?

Bitching about something for the sake of bitching is not constructive.

This might blow your mind... but criticism is not invalid just because it's non-constructive.

I don't know what's wrong with this generation of humans that people seem to believe they're infallible to criticism unless the person criticizing them is also spoonfeeding them a solution.

ZOS deserves the negative criticism they get. We don't owe them constructive responses.

ZOS repeatedly over the last 4 years or whatever it's been, constantly putting stuff in PTS that gets criticized and going live with it - time and time again. Clearly they aren't responsive to constructive feedback as it is.

I mean just stop a second and think. Why does it need to be constructive? If I got drunk out of my mind right now, went driving and caused some accidents - would you be giving me "constructive" criticism - or the duly earned non-constructive criticism. This is just one example of 100s of 1000s of real life scenarios where constructive criticism is not warranted.

There comes a point where asking people to be constructive is a form of diffusion of responsibility. ZOS has been at this point for years.

If I want to say to somebody "Your product is bad" - that is NOT an invalid statement. It's not my job to tell them how to make it better... it's THEIR'S.

Yes, but if you want them to listen, it really helps if you are constructive about it.

Very few people have been able to change my mind/opinion/behaviour by being rude and unconstructive. Because my default position will be to ignore or dismiss them because of their attitude. Many people have been able to change my mind/opinion/behaviour by being productive about it. I would imagine that each of us is similar.

If what you want is for ZOS to change something, the best way to achieve that is to make a coherent case for it. You can do that without being ranty, angry or ‘unconstructive’. You can do that without even telling ZOS how bad they are and how right you are.

Alternatively, if you want to shout and scream like a petulant 2 year-old, you can do that too, only don’t expect anyone to take you seriously and occasionally expect to get sent to your room to cool down,

Vanos444

Lol! What did you expect?! This game was rigged from the start. Just look at FO76 Bethesda latest post...
Also, if you feel that way then it's time to quite ESO for good. Many have already left with their bs patches and implementation.

JD2013

Being petulant and attacking the devs on a personal level is never okay.

Constructive criticism is the right way to go about things. When will people here learn? You will get locked when you scream like a petulant, spoiled child, and then act like you are the victim.

D0PAMINE

The devs likely hate us due to threads like this one over the years.

daedalusAI

lagrue wrote: »

Harrdarrzarr wrote: »

His remark "post constructive feedback dev can use for a real change" was obviously placed regarding the "does zos even care" forum thread? It has nothing to do with any previous thread.

What is the result that you have in mind when creating this thread, or what result would the person have had in mind when creating the "does ZOS even care post" thread?

Bitching about something for the sake of bitching is not constructive.

This might blow your mind... but criticism is not invalid just because it's non-constructive.

I don't know what's wrong with this generation of humans that people seem to believe they're infallible to criticism unless the person criticizing them is also spoonfeeding them a solution.

ZOS repeatedly over the last 4 years or whatever it's been, constantly putting stuff in PTS that gets criticized by huge quantities of players - both constructively and non-constructively... and they always go live with it anyway - time and time again. Clearly they aren't responsive to constructive feedback as it is. I don't think there's every been a single instance of ANY PTS where players said to ZOS "this is bad, please don't do this" and they actually listened. PTS is a joke because of it.

There comes a point where asking people to be constructive is a form of diffusion of responsibility. ZOS has been at this point for years.

If I want to say to somebody "Your product is bad" - that is NOT an invalid statement. It's not my job to tell them how to make it better... it's THEIR'S.

I was expecting no one to argue that point, so thanks.

The "be constructive" part is mostly used as a cheap excuse to not listen to criticism/deflect it:
Me: "ZOS you clearly couldn't be bothered to adjust the DoT scaling of U23 due to PTS feedback and went live with it anyway and just now with U24 it went the opposite direction.
ZOS: "Be constructive".

daedalusAI

FierceSam wrote: »

lagrue wrote: »

Harrdarrzarr wrote: »

His remark "post constructive feedback dev can use for a real change" was obviously placed regarding the "does zos even care" forum thread? It has nothing to do with any previous thread.

What is the result that you have in mind when creating this thread, or what result would the person have had in mind when creating the "does ZOS even care post" thread?

Bitching about something for the sake of bitching is not constructive.

This might blow your mind... but criticism is not invalid just because it's non-constructive.

I don't know what's wrong with this generation of humans that people seem to believe they're infallible to criticism unless the person criticizing them is also spoonfeeding them a solution.

ZOS deserves the negative criticism they get. We don't owe them constructive responses.

ZOS repeatedly over the last 4 years or whatever it's been, constantly putting stuff in PTS that gets criticized and going live with it - time and time again. Clearly they aren't responsive to constructive feedback as it is.

I mean just stop a second and think. Why does it need to be constructive? If I got drunk out of my mind right now, went driving and caused some accidents - would you be giving me "constructive" criticism - or the duly earned non-constructive criticism. This is just one example of 100s of 1000s of real life scenarios where constructive criticism is not warranted.

There comes a point where asking people to be constructive is a form of diffusion of responsibility. ZOS has been at this point for years.

If I want to say to somebody "Your product is bad" - that is NOT an invalid statement. It's not my job to tell them how to make it better... it's THEIR'S.

Yes, but if you want them to listen, it really helps if you are constructive about it.

Very few people have been able to change my mind/opinion/behaviour by being rude and unconstructive. Because my default position will be to ignore or dismiss them because of their attitude. Many people have been able to change my mind/opinion/behaviour by being productive about it. I would imagine that each of us is similar.

If what you want is for ZOS to change something, the best way to achieve that is to make a coherent case for it. You can do that without being ranty, angry or ‘unconstructive’. You can do that without even telling ZOS how bad they are and how right you are.

Alternatively, if you want to shout and scream like a petulant 2 year-old, you can do that too, only don’t expect anyone to take you seriously and occasionally expect to get sent to your room to cool down,

Constructive feedback was proven to not change a thing, so you and other people harping on about "be constructive" is what: a desperate attempt to deny the reality that ZOS couldn't care less, even when the post/thread is based on a logically sound argument supported by evidence?

Btw: you and others keep on harping about "being constructive" and yet you didn't even define that term or provide a case in which you deem the opinion constructive.

The way you use it heavily implies constructive = only if the receiving party tolerates/accepts it, and if not it's unconstructive e.g.
Me: "You died due to standing in bad"
You: "That's unconstructive".

daedalusAI

JD2013 wrote: »

Being petulant and attacking the devs on a personal level is never okay.

Constructive criticism is the right way to go about things. When will people here learn? You will get locked when you scream like a petulant, spoiled child, and then act like you are the victim.

The burden of proof is on you:

• Where's the "being petulant" part?
• What's "attacking the devs"?

You sound like you didn't even read the thread I linked in my OP and yet felt compelled to post.

Do you feel "attacked" if I criticize e.g. your contribution to a project?

I almost forgot: you're rather "unconstructive" by using such a broad stroke without any precision and without any example.

Ohh the irony.

albesca

lagrue wrote: »

If I want to say to somebody "Your product is bad" - that is NOT an invalid statement. It's not my job to tell them how to make it better... it's THEIR'S.

That depends: if you say that because the game freezes, lags, crashes or whatever you are right, though telling that in a respectful manner is obviously better than throwing remarks about the developers' skills; if you say that because ultimates have a cast time or because bosmer have no bonus to stealth that really means "I don't like your product" and, while being a legitimate opinion, nobody is forced to do anything about that, not even yourself: you can go on playing a game that has some aspects you don't enjoy

Sebar80

FierceSam wrote: »

lagrue wrote: »

Harrdarrzarr wrote: »

His remark "post constructive feedback dev can use for a real change" was obviously placed regarding the "does zos even care" forum thread? It has nothing to do with any previous thread.

What is the result that you have in mind when creating this thread, or what result would the person have had in mind when creating the "does ZOS even care post" thread?

Bitching about something for the sake of bitching is not constructive.

This might blow your mind... but criticism is not invalid just because it's non-constructive.

I don't know what's wrong with this generation of humans that people seem to believe they're infallible to criticism unless the person criticizing them is also spoonfeeding them a solution.

ZOS deserves the negative criticism they get. We don't owe them constructive responses.

ZOS repeatedly over the last 4 years or whatever it's been, constantly putting stuff in PTS that gets criticized and going live with it - time and time again. Clearly they aren't responsive to constructive feedback as it is.

I mean just stop a second and think. Why does it need to be constructive? If I got drunk out of my mind right now, went driving and caused some accidents - would you be giving me "constructive" criticism - or the duly earned non-constructive criticism. This is just one example of 100s of 1000s of real life scenarios where constructive criticism is not warranted.

There comes a point where asking people to be constructive is a form of diffusion of responsibility. ZOS has been at this point for years.

If I want to say to somebody "Your product is bad" - that is NOT an invalid statement. It's not my job to tell them how to make it better... it's THEIR'S.

Yes, but if you want them to listen, it really helps if you are constructive about it.

Very few people have been able to change my mind/opinion/behaviour by being rude and unconstructive. Because my default position will be to ignore or dismiss them because of their attitude. Many people have been able to change my mind/opinion/behaviour by being productive about it. I would imagine that each of us is similar.

If what you want is for ZOS to change something, the best way to achieve that is to make a coherent case for it. You can do that without being ranty, angry or ‘unconstructive’. You can do that without even telling ZOS how bad they are and how right you are.

Alternatively, if you want to shout and scream like a petulant 2 year-old, you can do that too, only don’t expect anyone to take you seriously and occasionally expect to get sent to your room to cool down,

I can see only one petulant 2 year old in this discussion spouting same nonsense over and over.

Reality is ZOS time and time again said themselvs they need to better communicate. There were mutliple attempts by community to help, class representatives program is prime example. A lot of effort by community with no or very little impact on actual changes, many reps left because of it. One was so desperate that leaked patch notes well knowing what consequences would be. The only time ZOS reconsidered their position was on shield cast time and not because of "constructive, calm" discussion but becuasr there was a lot of uproar. They partialy reversed the changes despite the fanboys like you cheering for them in the forums.

The only ones realy behaving like 2 years olds are the developers and people like you covering their ears and repeating "i cant hear you".

Pride goes before destruction and arrogance before a fall.

ZOS developers and some on this forums are to proud and arrogant to even consider that people who sinked houndreds or even thousands of hours in this game may know better.

SmukkeHeks

My comment in the bosmer thread was deleted. No profanities, no foul language, none of that. My comment was a wondering if the combat team made progress based on the lore. Because it seems not.

Sure, I said it seems as if the combat team tried very hard to make this a pewpewpew game. It’s a personal opinion, very much based on the first section - progress in a game with this kind of history should be based on it.

Right?

drkfrontiers

Oh my God can you stop complaining already and go find another game.

If you don't like the game or the apprach taken with it, then it is in your power to do something else.

Why we have to have this song and dance every single time there's a change..

The only constant is change. Get use to it, and when you enter the real world as an adult you will be much more prone to being agile and able to adapt. (I am assuming that you are still an adolescent because frankly an adult would not get this strung out over a game.)

Joxer61

russelmmendoza wrote: »

Their forum, their game.

Accept it, move on.

Que sera sera.

whatever will be will be...the future is ours to see......Que sera sera.

maddiniiLuna

I must say there is indeed a lot of closed topics were I couldn't understand the decision to close it.

This however is perfectly fine with me. Dev's are only people and they can make mistakes. Obviously a lot of things are a lot of broken right now, especially in pvp. In pve I was able to simply adapt the rotation and sets and still have more then enough dps for the hm vet trials.

daedalusAI

drkfrontiers wrote: »

Oh my God can you stop complaining already and go find another game.

If you don't like the game or the apprach taken with it, then it is in your power to do something else.

Why we have to have this song and dance every single time there's a change..

The only constant is change. Get use to it, and when you enter the real world as an adult you will be much more prone to being agile and able to adapt. (I am assuming that you are still an adolescent because frankly an adult would not get this strung out over a game.)

I tried, but ZOS like so many other companies don't care one bit about feedback or criticism - they rather smother/prevent it.

Who is this "we" you're using?

The self-proclaimed "adult" is telling another adult to "stop complaining" by posting in a thread the "adult" clearly doesn't care one bit about.

Do you also use this stance when e.g. the car mechanic does a pathetic job repairing your car? "An adult wouldn't get this strung out over a car".

anitajoneb17_ESO

daedalusAI wrote: »

The burden of proof is on you:

• Where's the "being petulant" part?
• What's "attacking the devs"?

It's hard to conceive, but could it be that you are genuinely not aware of your own rudeness ?

daedalusAI

Sebar80 wrote: »

FierceSam wrote: »

lagrue wrote: »

Harrdarrzarr wrote: »

His remark "post constructive feedback dev can use for a real change" was obviously placed regarding the "does zos even care" forum thread? It has nothing to do with any previous thread.

What is the result that you have in mind when creating this thread, or what result would the person have had in mind when creating the "does ZOS even care post" thread?

Bitching about something for the sake of bitching is not constructive.

This might blow your mind... but criticism is not invalid just because it's non-constructive.

I don't know what's wrong with this generation of humans that people seem to believe they're infallible to criticism unless the person criticizing them is also spoonfeeding them a solution.

ZOS deserves the negative criticism they get. We don't owe them constructive responses.

ZOS repeatedly over the last 4 years or whatever it's been, constantly putting stuff in PTS that gets criticized and going live with it - time and time again. Clearly they aren't responsive to constructive feedback as it is.

I mean just stop a second and think. Why does it need to be constructive? If I got drunk out of my mind right now, went driving and caused some accidents - would you be giving me "constructive" criticism - or the duly earned non-constructive criticism. This is just one example of 100s of 1000s of real life scenarios where constructive criticism is not warranted.

There comes a point where asking people to be constructive is a form of diffusion of responsibility. ZOS has been at this point for years.

If I want to say to somebody "Your product is bad" - that is NOT an invalid statement. It's not my job to tell them how to make it better... it's THEIR'S.

Yes, but if you want them to listen, it really helps if you are constructive about it.

Very few people have been able to change my mind/opinion/behaviour by being rude and unconstructive. Because my default position will be to ignore or dismiss them because of their attitude. Many people have been able to change my mind/opinion/behaviour by being productive about it. I would imagine that each of us is similar.

If what you want is for ZOS to change something, the best way to achieve that is to make a coherent case for it. You can do that without being ranty, angry or ‘unconstructive’. You can do that without even telling ZOS how bad they are and how right you are.

Alternatively, if you want to shout and scream like a petulant 2 year-old, you can do that too, only don’t expect anyone to take you seriously and occasionally expect to get sent to your room to cool down,

I can see only one petulant 2 year old in this discussion spouting same nonsense over and over.

Reality is ZOS time and time again said themselvs they need to better communicate. There were mutliple attempts by community to help, class representatives program is prime example. A lot of effort by community with no or very little impact on actual changes, many reps left because of it. One was so desperate that leaked patch notes well knowing what consequences would be. The only time ZOS reconsidered their position was on shield cast time and not because of "constructive, calm" discussion but becuasr there was a lot of uproar. They partialy reversed the changes despite the fanboys like you cheering for them in the forums.

The only ones realy behaving like 2 years olds are the developers and people like you covering their ears and repeating "i cant hear you".

Pride goes before destruction and arrogance before a fall.

ZOS developers and some on this forums are to proud and arrogant to even consider that people who sinked houndreds or even thousands of hours in this game may know better.

I'm almost surprised to see a few people capable of critical thinking on these forums among all the "be constructive and ZOS might listen" who just refuse to examine that very claim they're constantly uttering.

daedalusAI

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

daedalusAI wrote: »

The burden of proof is on you:

• Where's the "being petulant" part?
• What's "attacking the devs"?

It's hard to conceive, but could it be that you are genuinely not aware of your own rudeness ?

What is it with people like you who throw words around without being precise or providing examples?

Point me towards my "rudeness", or do you refer to my outspoken and critical attitude?

GhostofDatthaw

Siohwenoeht wrote: »

GhostofDatthaw wrote: »

Siohwenoeht wrote: »

Yuffie91 wrote: »

Sort of goes against freedom of speech imo

There is no guarantee of free speech on a privately owned forum, website, business etc.

The 1st amendment only guarantees that the government will not infringe on your freedom of speech.

Not quite true, but we signed tos

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/04/27/politics/first-amendment-explainer-trnd/index.html&ved=2ahUKEwjV3cisuLTlAhUQP60KHfvTBr8QFjAKegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw1ZOaKR3B-77267RIJvgzc2&ampcf=1

No, it does in fact work this way regardless of a TOS. Just as a steakhouse owner has the right to throw you out or ban you for staging a vegan protest in their restaurant. As @Huyen pointed out, the rules in the EU are different, but here in the States, businesses have leave to restrict almost any speech unless it is protected, which is small in scope.

@Siohwenoeht
Yeah but it still depends on what the speech is I mean there is slander which you can get sued over. Point I'm trying to make is we signed a tos to agree to play a game by thier rules. Buisness in the US have thier constitutional protection and freedom of speech as well as the individual has free speech and its own protection. These two things can be in conflict, our views and the games views, it's why they stick a rating on it and make us sign a tos. It legal protects thier rights to do what they want.

Tandor

daedalusAI wrote: »

Are you sure you want to pay for a game run by such a company?

Yes I am thanks, on two accounts.

The company produces a decent game that runs well for me and with regular additions and improvements. They sometimes make changes that impact more on some players than others, well that's what happens in any multiplayer online game. I'm glad the game isn't static, with no changes, as that would lead to "OMG the devs aren't doing anything, it's in maintenance mode" whines. All of that, together with employing moderators who keep the forum clear of petty and immature nonsense and whose job is not to engage in dialogue with players is all that I look for in an online game. I agree that the developers could converse a bit more with the players, but then the tone of the average forum thread is such that I well understand why they choose not to.

Malmai

They just want cash and silence.

Yuffie91

Ah well. This will be locked soon

anitajoneb17_ESO

daedalusAI wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

daedalusAI wrote: »

The burden of proof is on you:

• Where's the "being petulant" part?
• What's "attacking the devs"?

It's hard to conceive, but could it be that you are genuinely not aware of your own rudeness ?

What is it with people like you who throw words around without being precise or providing examples?

Point me towards my "rudeness", or do you refer to my outspoken and critical attitude?

Every single one of your posts in this thread is an example. Including this one. Even the title is rude. You think calling people "spoiled children" isn't rude ?

You're simply rude, and it seems you don't realize it.

daedalusAI

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

daedalusAI wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

daedalusAI wrote: »

The burden of proof is on you:

• Where's the "being petulant" part?
• What's "attacking the devs"?

It's hard to conceive, but could it be that you are genuinely not aware of your own rudeness ?

What is it with people like you who throw words around without being precise or providing examples?

Point me towards my "rudeness", or do you refer to my outspoken and critical attitude?

Every single one of your posts in this thread is an example. Including this one. Even the title is rude. You think calling people "spoiled children" isn't rude ?

You're simply rude, and it seems you don't realize it.

To recap:

• You calling me rude without any explanation in your first post seems to be fine with your moral compass of "rudeness"
• Me asking you where my supposed "rudeness" is as you just threw that word around with no example is rude according to your compass
• The spoiled children part is debatable, but ZOS behaves like a spoiled child when faced with criticism, so calling them that is fine with me

Intriguing that just within 2 posts you judge me according to your moral compass of "rudeness" as rude while being totally fine if you're rude by calling me rude without any explanations.

I do enjoy a proper hypocrite.

And another thing: you post in a thread with a topic you clearly couldn't care less about just to tell the OP he's "rude" according to your moral compass?

Why are you even in here then?

NotaDaedraWorshipper

A rude thread about the locking of a thread which was mainly about rude whining and people acting like bozos, and you call it criticism? Well this is going to be locked soon aswell. Talking about banning and locking is a no-no.
Yet again I get the feeling that some people on the internet doesn't understand what criticism means nor free speech when they start rant about that.

There are loads of discussions on this forum filled with criticism that are not locked, because they are properly criticising things without personal attacks and baiting.

daedalusAI

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

A rude thread about the locking of a thread which was mainly about rude whining and people acting like bozos, and you call it criticism? Well this is going to be locked soon aswell. Talking about banning and locking is a no-no.
Yet again I get the feeling that some people on the internet doesn't understand what criticism means nor free speech when they start rant about that.

There are loads of discussions on this forum filled with criticism that are not locked, because they are properly criticising things without personal attacks and baiting.

I'm having a field day here.

Where's the "rude" part?
Where's the "rude whining" part?
Where and how are people acting like "bozos"?

I hope you got the irony about "not understanding what criticism means nor free speech" when just one sentence above you discredited everything with a single broad stroke as "rude" and "whining".

Every heard of falsification?
The thread in my OP got locked, contained proper criticism without personal attacks -> I refuted your point.

Joxer61

daedalusAI wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

daedalusAI wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

daedalusAI wrote: »

The burden of proof is on you:

• Where's the "being petulant" part?
• What's "attacking the devs"?

It's hard to conceive, but could it be that you are genuinely not aware of your own rudeness ?

What is it with people like you who throw words around without being precise or providing examples?

Point me towards my "rudeness", or do you refer to my outspoken and critical attitude?

Every single one of your posts in this thread is an example. Including this one. Even the title is rude. You think calling people "spoiled children" isn't rude ?

You're simply rude, and it seems you don't realize it.

To recap:

• You calling me rude without any explanation in your first post seems to be fine with your moral compass of "rudeness"
• Me asking you where my supposed "rudeness" is as you just threw that word around with no example is rude according to your compass
• The spoiled children part is debatable, but ZOS behaves like a spoiled child when faced with criticism, so calling them that is fine with me

Intriguing that just within 2 posts you judge me according to your moral compass of "rudeness" as rude while being totally fine if you're rude by calling me rude without any explanations.

I do enjoy a proper hypocrite.

And another thing: you post in a thread with a topic you clearly couldn't care less about just to tell the OP he's "rude" according to your moral compass?

Why are you even in here then?

say rude again….lol. :P

Tryxus

Joxer61 wrote: »

daedalusAI wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

daedalusAI wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

daedalusAI wrote: »

The burden of proof is on you:

• Where's the "being petulant" part?
• What's "attacking the devs"?

It's hard to conceive, but could it be that you are genuinely not aware of your own rudeness ?

What is it with people like you who throw words around without being precise or providing examples?

Point me towards my "rudeness", or do you refer to my outspoken and critical attitude?

Every single one of your posts in this thread is an example. Including this one. Even the title is rude. You think calling people "spoiled children" isn't rude ?

You're simply rude, and it seems you don't realize it.

To recap:

• You calling me rude without any explanation in your first post seems to be fine with your moral compass of "rudeness"
• Me asking you where my supposed "rudeness" is as you just threw that word around with no example is rude according to your compass
• The spoiled children part is debatable, but ZOS behaves like a spoiled child when faced with criticism, so calling them that is fine with me

Intriguing that just within 2 posts you judge me according to your moral compass of "rudeness" as rude while being totally fine if you're rude by calling me rude without any explanations.

I do enjoy a proper hypocrite.

And another thing: you post in a thread with a topic you clearly couldn't care less about just to tell the OP he's "rude" according to your moral compass?

Why are you even in here then?

say rude again….lol. :P