What the hell is up with dps?

mongoLC

Just did a dungeon wayrest 1 last boss 26k total dps use to do 32k easy by myself on my mage necro.
I admit mage necro is not my main but I use to pull 30-35k on this boss last patch.
Plus can't even sustain anymore.
This game is just stupid now. I guess its time to find another game. [removed comment]

Katahdin

Welcome to the nerfs yesterday's patch brought.

logarifmik

Can I have your stuff?

Casterial

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The issue is, instead of ZOS making a skill pool and flushing those skills to move they hard code everything, so instead of easy tuned bosses we get hard tuned bosses, what easier to tune? We are. So they nerf us instead of making pve harder.

russelmmendoza

Working as intended.

Welcome to nerfweyr.

Nerfware?

mongoLC

This is just insane. I mean 32k was just average dps i am running ZAN, burning spellweave, mothers sorrow, vma backbar this build basically.
https://alcasthq.com/eso-magicka-necromancer-build-pve/

Is less than 20k dps now the new average?

mongoLC

logarifmik wrote: »

Can I have your stuff?

LMAO not an I quit thread but looks like I will be sitting this patch out totally.

LeHarrt91

Even with the nerfs Necro should still pull good numbers, i would recommend refining your rotation.

akl77

ZOS succeeded in killing their own game, that’s all I can say.

mongoLC

LeHarrt91 wrote: »

Even with the nerfs Necro should still pull good numbers, i would recommend refining your rotation.

Yeah i'm sure I could do better on my mage nightblade or stam sorc but man this is going to ruin newer players. I never had a super great rotation on my mage necro but I could usually always pull good numbers you should be able to on any class with any gear when your 1641cp.

oddbasket

26k total group dps vs 32k personal dps is too large a difference and makes me think you're not making a fair comparison between 2 very different scenarios. You're comparing pug dungeons right? With varying levels of competency and group buffs?

Cirantille

I am not using any of the nerfed skills so why the sustain is still bad? What did I miss?

mongoLC

oddbasket wrote: »

26k total group dps vs 32k personal dps is too large a difference and makes me think you're not making a fair comparison between 2 very different scenarios. You're comparing pug dungeons right? With varying levels of competency and group buffs?

Yes I am.

So just the other day before the patch i have a combat parse from combat metrics of 32k on Allene Pellingare and proir to this patch i was always within 30-40k
today it was 16k the other guy did 10k dps first time back. I did adjust cp and skills.

Both pug groups. Running it cause I want something out of there.

Btw my aoe damage isn't nearly as far off its still good.

So basically I want to know am I the only one seeing this?

Heelie

dps went down by aprox 20%, not a huge issue overall, with an up to date rotation you can hit numbers in the low 70k's without much effort

LeHarrt91

Cirantille wrote: »

I am not using any of the nerfed skills so why the sustain is still bad? What did I miss?

Alot of the aoe ground placed DoTs had cost increases.

JanTanhide

Nerfed us hard is what happened.

ArchMikem

akl77 wrote: »

ZOS succeeded in killing their own game, that’s all I can say.

Succeeded implies a conclusion, a finality.

The game is not dead. At all.

Witar

It will tremble in agony and despair for a several years more till devs will figure a way to finally and irreversibly spoil everything we loved in it once.

tallenn

Also, check your build against the site again. Alcast has posted some changes to at least some of the builds (maybe all) updated for Dragonhold. Some parts of your build may need to be changed up a bit.

Vanos444

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Dots were nerfed to Oblivion.

Ozby

Where you been the last 5 weeks lol?

Haquor

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So you and 19 other people who agreed are leaving the game cause you completed content but your dps dropped by 19% on one boss? Desperate times.

Killing valkyn skoria with 15k dps used to be fun. Now its game breaking.

Cirantille

LeHarrt91 wrote: »

Cirantille wrote: »

I am not using any of the nerfed skills so why the sustain is still bad? What did I miss?

Alot of the aoe ground placed DoTs had cost increases.

Awesome

Just gonna stand there do heavy attack potato damages as expected I guess

And I see some people doing this already

FierceSam

Hey @mongoLC

Forgetting the DPS for a moment, what did you feel about the fight?

Was it more engaging having to deal with the mechanics? Do you feel better/worse when you defeated the boss?

I know I have had battles where everyone’s dps has been lower than usual, we’ve had to work harder and the sense of elation at the end when we won was so much better than if we’d simply burnt the boss.

And if you completed the dungeon does DPS actually matter?

mongoLC

FierceSam wrote: »

Hey @mongoLC

Forgetting the DPS for a moment, what did you feel about the fight?

Was it more engaging having to deal with the mechanics? Do you feel better/worse when you defeated the boss?

I know I have had battles where everyone’s dps has been lower than usual, we’ve had to work harder and the sense of elation at the end when we won was so much better than if we’d simply burnt the boss.

And if you completed the dungeon does DPS actually matter?

I didn't enjoy running out of resources even when I switched from Artaeum Pickled Fish Bowl to Witchmother’s Potent Brew. I'm not willing to run 4k regen and have 1.5 spell damage if that. My character is a breton figure I am just going to sit this *** show out. Login today reset all my skill points for free and not logon till next dlc and only if sustain is fixed.
Like a lot of other people I have had enough.

mongoLC

Haquor wrote: »

mongoLC wrote: »

Just did a dungeon wayrest 1 last boss 26k total dps use to do 32k easy by myself on my mage necro.
I admit mage necro is not my main but I use to pull 30-35k on this boss last patch.
Plus can't even sustain anymore.
This game is just stupid now. I guess its time to find another game. Need a new combat team!

So you and 19 other people who agreed are leaving the game cause you completed content but your dps dropped by 19% on one boss? Desperate times.

Killing valkyn skoria with 15k dps used to be fun. Now its game breaking.

For me it was about 50% drop in dps since I usually never hit less than 30k and I was hitting 16k the other guy 10k 26k was the total dps for 2 dps players. That's not acceptable.

TirantLoBlanch

FierceSam wrote: »

Hey @mongoLC

Forgetting the DPS for a moment, what did you feel about the fight?

Was it more engaging having to deal with the mechanics? Do you feel better/worse when you defeated the boss?

I know I have had battles where everyone’s dps has been lower than usual, we’ve had to work harder and the sense of elation at the end when we won was so much better than if we’d simply burnt the boss.

And if you completed the dungeon does DPS actually matter?

Your boss will be happy to know how easy is for you to transform to live with a half wage into a satisfiying challenge.
THe guy feels frustrated and stoled.
Go to an hospital to tell the amputated how happy they must be facing the new chalenges of a disabled life...

Galarthor

mongoLC wrote: »

LeHarrt91 wrote: »

Even with the nerfs Necro should still pull good numbers, i would recommend refining your rotation.

Yeah i'm sure I could do better on my mage nightblade or stam sorc but man this is going to ruin newer players. I never had a super great rotation on my mage necro but I could usually always pull good numbers you should be able to on any class with any gear when your 1641cp.

No it is not. People cleared those dungeons way before we had that insane upwards spiral for DPS in recent updates. You know, when DPS were around 30k to 40k instead of 100k to 110k. Dungeons never changed, but DPS tripled. That nerf was overdue, especially after the insane DoT dps we had with the previous update.

Gadamlub14_ESO

russelmmendoza wrote: »

Working as intended.

Welcome to nerfweyr.

Nerfware?

Nerfhold

starkerealm

Gadamlub14_ESO wrote: »

russelmmendoza wrote: »

Working as intended.

Welcome to nerfweyr.

Nerfware?

Nerfhold

Surfhold.

Hallothiel

TirantLoBlanch wrote: »

FierceSam wrote: »

Hey @mongoLC

Forgetting the DPS for a moment, what did you feel about the fight?

Was it more engaging having to deal with the mechanics? Do you feel better/worse when you defeated the boss?

I know I have had battles where everyone’s dps has been lower than usual, we’ve had to work harder and the sense of elation at the end when we won was so much better than if we’d simply burnt the boss.

And if you completed the dungeon does DPS actually matter?

Your boss will be happy to know how easy is for you to transform to live with a half wage into a satisfiying challenge.
THe guy feels frustrated and stoled.
Go to an hospital to tell the amputated how happy they must be facing the new chalenges of a disabled life...

Yeah because those two examples are so relevant & comparable to a character you play on a damn game apparently losing a bit of dps.

Ffs.