Dragonhold, anything for endgame Community?

Artorias24

Hello,

So with dragonhold we get a new overland Zone. Thats it.

Compared to the Last Q4 DLCs thats not much.... With clockwork we get Asylum Trial and with Murkmire we got Blackrose Prison for our endgame PvE Community. And also new and intresting ability altering weapons. Why not this patch? You only give us a zone for Overland questing and some world bosses that get nuked by all the players around.

Even the new sets are Overland drops or crafted and can be sold. Why should i buy dragonhold? A lot of players we're quite hyped for the new weapons cause they change important and heavily used skill. (At least they should cause they are the only ones left that dont have an weapon attached to it). Wich are Momentum, Snipe, ele drain, flying dagger, reverb and the one from resto i dont remember.

The value of DLCs are kinda going Downhill, dont you think?

pod88kk

A swift kick in the ***

Delparis

Nothing just a quest story you'll probably finish in 2 days

mcagatayg

I feel for you. I dunno if i should buy it, sets looks nice but i can buy it from stores or ask someone else to craft prob.

Rungar

Delparis wrote: »

Nothing just a quest story you'll probably finish in 2 days

well thats alot more use than the usual dungeon release.

redgreensunset

Part one of the performance improvements.

MCBIZZLE300

I wish theyd pump out less content tbh and focus on fixes more.

idk

Nothing for end game. Disappointing as it had seemed Zos had set that expectation since they changed the cadence of releasing new content in 2017. However, I do not think they have actually said they would add any trial or arena type content with any regularity. Still sad.

mcb123 wrote: »

I wish theyd pump out less content tbh and focus on fixes more.

Many of the team members that create new content lack the skill set to work on bug fixes so this does not make sense. It is something Zos is smart enough to not make the same mistake twice. Zos went an entire year without releasing any meaningful content. The results was a mass exodus and a great many never returned to the game.

NeroBad

Do most PvE endgamers, finished every hard mode vetDungeon without a member dying? Same for trials and arenas? I like questing, and altough I finish them within 2-3 weeks (family, work etc) I have patience for more then 5 month for the next content (after 3 month I get a 2x1,5 hour content which is interesting but max 2 days for me). Sometimes I hope they will do 2 small zones a year after the chapter, but I don't hold my breath too much.

I understand it sucks that after 2,5 years of continous quarterly endgame content, they will have a short break, but devaluate a quest heavy content is irritating for me, because atleast for me this DLC will have a 100% achievement completion.

karekiz

Rungar wrote: »

well thats alot more use than the usual dungeon release.

Two days is super super super generous for finishing the quest line. Maybe two day for all achievements, but most definitely it will be 2-4 hours for quest line. 2 for skipping - 4 for reading. I usually take a new character through CWC for the 2 hour xp scroll <BTW CWC = best reward system since I bother to actually do it for a reward. So sad they dropped that idea>, and it takes a starting level 3 roughly 2-3 hoursish with training get set.

In comparison getting challenger usually does take most people far longer than two days unless they practice on PTS or have a perma team on standby.

Artorias24

NeroBad wrote: »

Do most PvE endgamers, finished every hard mode vetDungeon without a member dying? Same for trials and arenas? I like questing, and altough I finish them within 2-3 weeks (family, work etc) I have patience for more then 5 month for the next content (after 3 month I get a 2x1,5 hour content which is interesting but max 2 days for me). Sometimes I hope they will do 2 small zones a year after the chapter, but I don't hold my breath too much.

I understand it sucks that after 2,5 years of continous quarterly endgame content, they will have a short break, but devaluate a quest heavy content is irritating for me, because atleast for me this DLC will have a 100% achievement completion.

But to compare it with the last DLCs its much much less content for the same price No?

I hardly believe that the price will be the same with less content. And the given content is only aimed at a specific audience.

Dont get me wrong, i am Happy they finally want to fix a lot of stuff. And i also happily skip more then one dlc to get just fixes and QoL improvements. But reducing the content of a full dlc and still ask the same price is not how to deal with this. Its like making us pay for fixes. While fixes should be free Tho. We deserve a working Game. We already payed for this.

themaddaedra

redgreensunset wrote: »

Part one of the performance improvements.

This. I'm totally fine not having anything for another patch even, as long as they actually do something visibly good about the performance.

And i'd like to see how many of the existing dungeons, trials and arenas are completed on a proper difficulty by anyone who already QQs for the new ones.

Artorias24

themaddaedra wrote: »

redgreensunset wrote: »

Part one of the performance improvements.

This. I'm totally fine not having anything for another patch even, as long as they actually do something visibly good about the performance.

And i'd like to see how many of the existing dungeons, trials and arenas are completed on a proper difficulty by anyone who already QQs for the new ones.

So having a DLC with less content but Same price is fine as long as you get Bug fixes? So basicly paying for getting a working Game?

I dont like that.

Asardes

Besides nerfs?

Asardes

Delparis wrote: »

Nothing just a quest story you'll probably finish in 2 days

Nah, they took care of that by introducing the new Dragonguard dailies grind to fully unlock the sanctuary. Basically Dark Brotherhood, but with different NPCs

themaddaedra

Artorias24 wrote: »

themaddaedra wrote: »

redgreensunset wrote: »

Part one of the performance improvements.

This. I'm totally fine not having anything for another patch even, as long as they actually do something visibly good about the performance.

And i'd like to see how many of the existing dungeons, trials and arenas are completed on a proper difficulty by anyone who already QQs for the new ones.

So having a DLC with less content but Same price is fine as long as you get Bug fixes? So basicly paying for getting a working Game?

I dont like that.

Then you don't buy it who cares. They don't have unlimited resources and there have been loads of threads in these forums screaming for performance upgrades in cost of new content. It's been asked like a thousand times, they are even late to do this.

You people have to realize that new content doesn't mean a single sh!t when your game client is constantly on fire.

Edit: Also, i didn't say it should be like that forever. Just giving up on a single mini trial or an arena on one single dlc is nothing to qq for.

holden_caulfield

And here we have all the cheapasses that dont want subscribe to a game that give them hundreds of hours of play time but god forbid paying 12 € monthly

Way better whining on the forum because they dont think that spend 450k golds for 1500 crowns to 'buy' the DLC is worth it.

Oh just a note. All those golds come from playing the game for free

You people would *** a supermodel but still would whine to have bougth her a big Mac.

Sorry for my english

St_Anger

To be honest to me the fact that there is no new endgame content is the worst part of this patch. Nerfs are demotivating, but you can get over them, but no real endgame content (exept 2 probably much to easy DLC dungeosn in Q1 2020) for 8 more months? I've cancelled my subscribtion, because it feels like the game is not giving me enaugh value to justify 12€ a month.

Pijng

holden_caulfield wrote: »

And here we have all the cheapasses that dont want subscribe to a game that give them hundreds of hours of play time but god forbid paying 12 € monthly

Way better whining on the forum because they dont think that spend 450k golds for 1500 crowns to 'buy' the DLC is worth it.

Oh just a note. All those golds come from playing the game for free

You people would *** a supermodel but still would whine to have bougth her a big Mac.

Sorry for my english

Big mac is trash, that's why

Artorias24

holden_caulfield wrote: »

And here we have all the cheapasses that dont want subscribe to a game that give them hundreds of hours of play time but god forbid paying 12 € monthly

Way better whining on the forum because they dont think that spend 450k golds for 1500 crowns to 'buy' the DLC is worth it.

Oh just a note. All those golds come from playing the game for free

You people would *** a supermodel but still would whine to have bougth her a big Mac.

Sorry for my english

I do have an aktive subscription. I am just disappointed from a big DLC that doesnt offer much besides Overland questing. These is nothing in it for the endgame Community.

And how dare i am to share my opinion....

SeaUnicorn

More nerfs of course

luen79rwb17_ESO

I bet today's surprise will be a new trial or solo arena

SeaUnicorn

Or just more nerfs

themaddaedra

luen79rwb17_ESO wrote: »

I bet today's surprise will be a new trial or solo arena

I doubt they would call it an event then

Austinseph1

You get to spend the next month reworking your builds and figuring out how to complete vet hm with 25% less dps I guess.. if you call that content..

Alidel

holden_caulfield wrote: »

Oh just a note. All those golds come from playing the game for free

Not free, the game is buy to play. Sub is just little bit of QoL for monthly payment.

Xvorg

Endgame Community?



So this is turning a battle royale after all...

holden_caulfield

Alidel wrote: »

holden_caulfield wrote: »

Oh just a note. All those golds come from playing the game for free

Not free, the game is buy to play. Sub is just little bit of QoL for monthly payment.

Pls let US know your /played. How much have u payed hourly?
It's a good thing you dont have bad habbits like a cocaine addiction

Dark_Lord_Kuro

Owww poor end game player...
You can survive 1 pach without new content, quester are doing it twice per year surely you can manage one

Toanis

Well, the combat team is busy with their ability audit. That's "endgame content" as well. Story players rarely complain about a lack of class balance or encounter difficulty.

Would you really want the story team to work on your next trial instead?