Faction Lock | Please list the 30 days no-faction lock campaign first

amir412

So, next patch we are getting 2 campaigns of 30 days (CP).
Finally we will be able to tell, which mode most of the PVP community prefers,
Over the faction-lock only era, i've noticed there is a repeated claim from those in favor of faction-lock, that they willing move(with their guilds/friends) - to play on a faction lock campaign no matter what.

@Sanct16 raised a solid point that the campiagn which will be listed first, will be the most populated one.
Please set the no-faction locked campaign listed first so we can actually see if the faction-locked players willing to move as they claimed.

Qbiken

Agree

InvictusApollo

amir412 wrote: »

So, next patch we are getting 2 campaigns of 30 days (CP).
Finally we will be able to tell, which mode most of the PVP community prefers,
Over the faction-lock only era, i've noticed there is a repeated claim from those in favor of faction-lock, that they willing move(with their guilds/friends) - to play on a faction lock campaign no matter what.

@Sanct16 raised a solid point that the campiagn which will be listed first, will be the most populated one.
Please set the no-faction locked campaign listed first so we can actually see if the faction-locked players willing to move as they claimed.

It may sound as an isignifcant thing at first but is very important in the process of choosing campaigns by many people.

Rex-Umbra

No

Reverb

If people want it they will find it. The descriptions are clear.

Alienoutlaw

i cant believe this is actually a serious request. best laugh ive had today

VaranisArano

The claim of no-faction lock players is that unlocked is clearly desired by more players.
So, why the worry that players won't flock to your new campaign if you aren't listed first?

FearlessOne_2014

Alienoutlaw wrote: »

i cant believe this is actually a serious request. best laugh ive had today

Same here, requests like these seem like a kid under the age of 16 wrote it. Like what? I honestly would care if ZO$ make the unlock campaign first in the list. Children are the only ones who are bothered by such minor things. I'm willing to bet that faction lock will still be crowded while non lock will still be somewhat empty.

Qbiken

VaranisArano wrote: »

The claim of no-faction lock players is that unlocked is clearly desired by more players.
So, why the worry that players won't flock to your new campaign if you aren't listed first?

Just see how it was during the IC event, the ic campaigns that was "first in order" always had the highest population. OP has a point, and it would be an interesting thing to test, at least for one patch.

Alienoutlaw

Qbiken wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

The claim of no-faction lock players is that unlocked is clearly desired by more players.
So, why the worry that players won't flock to your new campaign if you aren't listed first?

Just see how it was during the IC event, the ic campaigns that was "first in order" always had the highest population. OP has a point, and it would be an interesting thing to test, at least for one patch.

the only point the OP is making is that ppl are to dumb to read or to lazy to scroll 20 pixels extra

aetherial_heavenn

OP is kind of saying no faction lock people are too...er um errr (Is there a Politically Correct word for 'stupid'?) to read. Which might explain their no faction lock preference .
Sorry couldn't resist.
Thanks for the smile OP.

ArenGesus

If nobody goes to the second campaign down then all it really shows is the vast majority of people don't really care one way or another.

Sandman929

If you want a real sociological experiment, keep the locked campaign with a dragon name and name the 30 day unlocked campaign "420kUsH-69_L33TBROS"

vamp_emily

Even though I will be playing in the faction lock campaign, I hope the no-lock faction campaign is a success. I would hate to see it end up like the "no cp" campaign where everyone said "no cp is so much fun" but not many people played there.

Maybe they should list the non-lock faction first and name it something like:

Laatvulon ( click here click here )

jaws343

VaranisArano wrote: »

The claim of no-faction lock players is that unlocked is clearly desired by more players.
So, why the worry that players won't flock to your new campaign if you aren't listed first?

I think the biggest claim that anyone was making is that pro faction lock and anti faction lock crowds are the minority. With the majority being sheep that flock to the first campaign listed. We have all been trying to make the argument that the only reason the current 30 day locked is full is because it is 30 day and it is listed first. No-one wants 7 day, and they remedied that. But the problem still arises that the players who don't care are going to populate the first campaign, regardless of the conditions (outside of cp/nocp).

iris56

Well, reguardless of how populated it is, Im going to be playing there on principle.

Tommy_The_Gun

Just a quick question:
If you queue to a Alliance locked campaign, then log off, can you log in with another character, from different alliance to a Alliance unlocked campaign ?

Or (faction hopping) only works if I queue to Alliance unlocked camping only ignoring the Alliance locked campaign (not logging in to it for 30 days) ?

InvictusApollo

iris56 wrote: »

Well, reguardless of how populated it is, Im going to be playing there on principle.

Me too. Although I'd prefer noCP.

HowlKimchi

I'm curious if this'll have an effect. Do it ZOS!

BNOC

Gregarious instinct will keep all the sheep together, regardless of what's available.

Katahdin

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

Just a quick question:
If you queue to a Alliance locked campaign, then log off, can you log in with another character, from different alliance to a Alliance unlocked campaign ?

Or (faction hopping) only works if I queue to Alliance unlocked camping only ignoring the Alliance locked campaign (not logging in to it for 30 days) ?

You can play all your characters in the unlocked campaign regardless of alliance and regardless of which characters (faction) are locked in the locked campaign.

So in the unlocked campaign, you can faction hop to your hearts content

josh.lackey_ESO

Sort them from least populated to most populated instead of alphabetically. 😎

Sanct16

VaranisArano wrote: »

The claim of no-faction lock players is that unlocked is clearly desired by more players.
So, why the worry that players won't flock to your new campaign if you aren't listed first?

@VaranisArano
The claim of pro-faction lock players is that locked is clearly desired by more players.
So, why the worry that players won't flock to your old campaign if you aren't listed first?

Sandman929

Sanct16 wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

The claim of no-faction lock players is that unlocked is clearly desired by more players.
So, why the worry that players won't flock to your new campaign if you aren't listed first?

@VaranisArano
The claim of pro-faction lock players is that locked is clearly desired by more players.
So, why the worry that players won't flock to your old campaign if you aren't listed first?

I'm just happy to be able to home where I can actually play and get 30 day rewards for it. Locked or unlocked, I'm not waiting in a queue for an hour. Plus, I think the unlocked should be first on the list if that's the first campaign someone new to PvP will see. They're probably making new toons and might be locked into racial choices that force multiple factions.

iRaivyne

amir412 wrote: »

So, next patch we are getting 2 campaigns of 30 days (CP).
Finally we will be able to tell, which mode most of the PVP community prefers,
Over the faction-lock only era, i've noticed there is a repeated claim from those in favor of faction-lock, that they willing move(with their guilds/friends) - to play on a faction lock campaign no matter what.

@Sanct16 raised a solid point that the campiagn which will be listed first, will be the most populated one.
Please set the no-faction locked campaign listed first so we can actually see if the faction-locked players willing to move as they claimed.

The people who care will find the campaign they prefer. The people who don't will just pick the first on the list. Most people don't care, so the only thing accomplished by following your suggestion is skewing the numbers from one side to the other (conveniently in your favor here).

Galarthor

amir412 wrote: »

So, next patch we are getting 2 campaigns of 30 days (CP).
Finally we will be able to tell, which mode most of the PVP community prefers,
Over the faction-lock only era, i've noticed there is a repeated claim from those in favor of faction-lock, that they willing move(with their guilds/friends) - to play on a faction lock campaign no matter what.

@Sanct16 raised a solid point that the campiagn which will be listed first, will be the most populated one.
Please set the no-faction locked campaign listed first so we can actually see if the faction-locked players willing to move as they claimed.

What kind of arguement is that? You can easily make the counter arguement - i.e. those who really don't want faction-lock all swear that that would move their guilds / friends to the non-locked campaigns.

What a stupid arguement. You just want to have easy prey in the form of casuals or newbies for your premades, that's all. And don't even start that crap about "Looool. We just want to have good fights against good opponents. Great GVG, you know!" If that was the case, then you would be quite happy with the faction-locked campaign not being first in the list as this would mean it won't all the casuals and newbies, which would mean less lag. At the same time all like-minded guilds would still be there with you nonetheless and you could have all the great GVG you always claim you want. But that is not what you truely want, is it?

If you truely wanted to see, which mode is more popular, then you have to make the selection unbiased. E.g. have everybody see a different campaign on top. Or have No.1 spot alternate. Or ask people in a pop-up window what they actually preferred and then assign them to the campaign accordingly without ever showing them the list.

Tommy_The_Gun

amir412 wrote: »

So, next patch we are getting 2 campaigns of 30 days (CP).
Finally we will be able to tell, which mode most of the PVP community prefers

I have a weird feeling that most people will play their main alliance locked campaign, paint the map, and then switch to alliance unlocked campaign and then paint the map there...over & over....

CerbinTalYalas

I feel that people will use the Alliance-locked for real PVP, and the non-locked to grind AP/get their XMute geod...

Gilvoth

amir412 wrote: »

So, next patch we are getting 2 campaigns of 30 days (CP).
Finally we will be able to tell, which mode most of the PVP community prefers,
Over the faction-lock only era, i've noticed there is a repeated claim from those in favor of faction-lock, that they willing move(with their guilds/friends) - to play on a faction lock campaign no matter what.

@Sanct16 raised a solid point that the campiagn which will be listed first, will be the most populated one.
Please set the no-faction locked campaign listed first so we can actually see if the faction-locked players willing to move as they claimed.

thats just simply not accurate.
IF your statement were accurate it, would not show in the first 30 days because allot of people wont be woken up to it enough to make the right choice of exactly what they want untill the second campaign, its the 2nd campaign that would be more accurate of numbers of who wants what.
and secondly, my above comment also, just like yours, still not completely accurate, because people will always flock to the campaign that has the most people in it, simply because they dont want to be in a small campaign with no one around.
if there are only 10 of us in the un-alliance locked campaign and everyone else is in the locked campaign does not mean they wanted to be there, it means there was only 10 of us in this one and they got bored and left for the other campaign to have more people to fight instead of just standing around with no enemies.

Gilvoth

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

amir412 wrote: »

So, next patch we are getting 2 campaigns of 30 days (CP).
Finally we will be able to tell, which mode most of the PVP community prefers

I have a weird feeling that most people will play their main alliance locked campaign, paint the map, and then switch to alliance unlocked campaign and then paint the map there...over & over....

thats a horrible reality, but its the truth.

IronWooshu

amir412 wrote: »

So, next patch we are getting 2 campaigns of 30 days (CP).
Finally we will be able to tell, which mode most of the PVP community prefers,
Over the faction-lock only era, i've noticed there is a repeated claim from those in favor of faction-lock, that they willing move(with their guilds/friends) - to play on a faction lock campaign no matter what.

@Sanct16 raised a solid point that the campiagn which will be listed first, will be the most populated one.
Please set the no-faction locked campaign listed first so we can actually see if the faction-locked players willing to move as they claimed.

How about you first. You sit here complaining whoever is placed first wins and so you lobby for non locked to be first.

Lol.. proves you have no confidence in non locked winning.