Nerf Onslaught please !!!!! :s

Nordic__Knights

Witar wrote: »

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

Witar wrote: »

Penetration on it is kinda over the board. People literaly stopped investing in penetration and just using onslaught.

So that's a reason to cry for a Nerf learn to play

I'm not actually dying to it anyway, can heal through on magplar easily even if i fail to dodge it. But asking someone to l2p when ur whole rotation is dizzy spam with onslaught is kinda stupid

Sorry to tell you my whole rotation Is dont turn on the game and enjoy the free time with family or friends dude and from what I read in your comments learn to play its that easy cry for nurfs it'll make you good SOMEDAY

buttaface

Found the troll tanks.

Aixy

Vapirko wrote: »

Dear OP. Humor me if you would. How long have you been a PvPer? What class are you playing, and how many specs do you have experience with. Do you typically follow a large group around or do you play with 5 people or less.

1.- How long have you been a PvPer? 5 years.-

2.- What class are you playing ? Templar, nb and Sorc.-

3.- Do you typically follow a large group around or do you play with 5 people or less ? Always solo.-



@Vapirko

LuxLunae

Aixy wrote: »

Nerf Onslaught please !!!!!

sure once they nerf assasins will

Royalthought

LuxLunae wrote: »

Aixy wrote: »

Nerf Onslaught please !!!!!

sure once they nerf assasins will

They did. They removed minor berserk.

(I don't agree with the onslaught nerf crowd either btw)

Katahdin

Once again if people hadn't gotten other stam ulitmates nerfed to uselessness, less people would have had to resort to using onslaught. I never even slotted it until I had no other options.

Casterial

Katahdin wrote: »

Once again if people hadn't gotten other stam ulitmates nerfed to uselessness, less people would have had to resort to using onslaught. I never even slotted it until I had no other options.

I'd be using DB if it didn't miss 90% now

don_kwek

This ultimate really *** heavy armor user with 1 button which is absolute ***.

I wanna see ultimate that *** healing and moving speed up with 1 button please.

universal_wrath

LuxLunae wrote: »

Aixy wrote: »

Nerf Onslaught please !!!!!

sure once they nerf assasins will

I don't usualy defend nightblade, in fact I asked for nerfs t o them, but why are you asking for assassin will nerf? How is it related to the skill?

If you want to compare assassin will with something, it should be sub assualt, bone skeleton, crystal frag/curse, or backlash. You compare a skill for a skill, not ultimate.

Currently, onslought is bis ultimate for all classes in pvp except for maybe necro collusom as far as offensive ultimates go. You rarely see anyone use downbreaker especaily after they nerfed it as well as soul assualt and other class ultimates.

relentless_turnip

Hasn't it already been nerfed?


Weapons
Two Handed
Berserker Strike:
Onslaught (morph):
This morph now grants penetration equal to 85% of the Resistances ignore on the initial hit at Rank I, which increases to 100% at Rank IV, rather than 100% at all ranks.
Decreased the duration to 5 seconds from 9.
This morph no longer ranks up in duration

Heatnix90

don_kwek wrote: »

This ultimate really *** heavy armor user with 1 button which is absolute ***.

That's kind of the point? God forbid that people have a counter against turtles stacking heavy armor and high resistances.

I bet you also want Spriggan and Spinner nerfed too, since they also counter Heavy Armor builds

MurderMostFoul

don_kwek wrote: »

This ultimate really *** heavy armor user with 1 button which is absolute ***.

I wanna see ultimate that *** healing and moving speed up with 1 button please.

Two buttons on console technically.

Davadin

wait. isn't just give u the pen of your target? not like, 100% for the duration?

TheHsN

Epicasballs wrote: »

It has a cast time AND audio que. You can break cc and roll before it goes off. React faster.

If you duel with one people yes. But which Sound you are going to listen or which player you are going to watch in all those players. You should be like spiderman

Mayrael

If changes from current PTS cycle will go live (dizzy without CC and Onslaught buff reduced to 5s) I don't think it will be an issue anymore. Yes it will be one of most powerful ults in the game but I would rather want to see other ultimates brought in line with it than nerfing Onslaught. We could start from removing cast times etc. Would be also nice if magicka classes would get some nice juicy burst ultimate. Just saying.

don_kwek

Give us ultimate that negates 100% healing on target for 12 second.
Give us ultimate that stops opponent 100% from roll dodging for 12 second.
Give us ultimate that stops opponent 100% from casting shield for 12 second.

Im not asking for a nerf im saying give everyone an i win button.
Lets mess it up more.

Tommy_The_Gun

I really dont want to talk about Onslaught nerf (or any other nerf). Dont get me wrong, this ulti was strong but inho, nerf to it was too strong. 5 seconds... What you gonna do ? Your target will simply CC you and roll dodge / speed buff away...

What I really want to say is: I know the pattern. ZOS only listens to feedback when the feedback involves nerfing "something". Now the real question is: If by knowing that can we take advatage of this to make them buff something ?

don_kwek

Mayrael wrote: »

If changes from current PTS cycle will go live (dizzy without CC and Onslaught buff reduced to 5s) I don't think it will be an issue anymore. Yes it will be one of most powerful ults in the game but I would rather want to see other ultimates brought in line with it than nerfing Onslaught. We could start from removing cast times etc. Would be also nice if magicka classes would get some nice juicy burst ultimate. Just saying.

Taking the knockback out of dizzy doesnt even makes sense.
The real problem here is onslaught taking away 100% of resistance for 12 second !!
It should just be nerfed to 50% and 5 second bonus.

Or take it back to the old way, where it negates 100% but no bonus so you would have to time it perfectly. It was working fine before.

technohic

don_kwek wrote: »

Mayrael wrote: »

If changes from current PTS cycle will go live (dizzy without CC and Onslaught buff reduced to 5s) I don't think it will be an issue anymore. Yes it will be one of most powerful ults in the game but I would rather want to see other ultimates brought in line with it than nerfing Onslaught. We could start from removing cast times etc. Would be also nice if magicka classes would get some nice juicy burst ultimate. Just saying.

Taking the knockback out of dizzy doesnt even makes sense.
The real problem here is onslaught taking away 100% of resistance for 12 second !!
It should just be nerfed to 50% and 5 second bonus.

Or take it back to the old way, where it negates 100% but no bonus so you would have to time it perfectly. It was working fine before.

They are making it 85% and 5 seconds. That's enough. Hell as it is now, good players know to CC and get away. 5 seconds is a reasonable amount of time to expect someone to do that.

Ultimate should be strong and require awareness to counter. Not just expect to eat them with no consequences.

don_kwek

15% of 33k is only 4950 resist. It practically is still naked.
30% of 33k would take it to 9900 resist which is where it should be.

Do remember that heavy armor passive is far worst then light or medium.

Davadin

just played a little more last night.

im swapping Onslaught back with DK leap.

why bother planning and timing with Onslaught to get the most resistance i can get, and time my combo on specific target to get the most bang of the back.....


.....while I can just 1-press ranged AoE stun and damage for 110 ulti?

hakan

technohic wrote: »

don_kwek wrote: »

Mayrael wrote: »

If changes from current PTS cycle will go live (dizzy without CC and Onslaught buff reduced to 5s) I don't think it will be an issue anymore. Yes it will be one of most powerful ults in the game but I would rather want to see other ultimates brought in line with it than nerfing Onslaught. We could start from removing cast times etc. Would be also nice if magicka classes would get some nice juicy burst ultimate. Just saying.

Taking the knockback out of dizzy doesnt even makes sense.
The real problem here is onslaught taking away 100% of resistance for 12 second !!
It should just be nerfed to 50% and 5 second bonus.

Or take it back to the old way, where it negates 100% but no bonus so you would have to time it perfectly. It was working fine before.

They are making it 85% and 5 seconds. That's enough. Hell as it is now, good players know to CC and get away. 5 seconds is a reasonable amount of time to expect someone to do that.

Ultimate should be strong and require awareness to counter. Not just expect to eat them with no consequences.

85 is only at rank 1. rank4 is still 100percent

don_kwek

hakan wrote: »

technohic wrote: »

don_kwek wrote: »

Mayrael wrote: »

If changes from current PTS cycle will go live (dizzy without CC and Onslaught buff reduced to 5s) I don't think it will be an issue anymore. Yes it will be one of most powerful ults in the game but I would rather want to see other ultimates brought in line with it than nerfing Onslaught. We could start from removing cast times etc. Would be also nice if magicka classes would get some nice juicy burst ultimate. Just saying.

Taking the knockback out of dizzy doesnt even makes sense.
The real problem here is onslaught taking away 100% of resistance for 12 second !!
It should just be nerfed to 50% and 5 second bonus.

Or take it back to the old way, where it negates 100% but no bonus so you would have to time it perfectly. It was working fine before.

They are making it 85% and 5 seconds. That's enough. Hell as it is now, good players know to CC and get away. 5 seconds is a reasonable amount of time to expect someone to do that.

Ultimate should be strong and require awareness to counter. Not just expect to eat them with no consequences.

85 is only at rank 1. rank4 is still 100percent

Yeah this *** is so broken at the moment. Click and spamm execute gg. For 150 ult

Chilly-McFreeze

Go ahead and nerf Onslaught some more.

Then come back and cry that everyone and their mother runs Dawnbreaker.

You guys are nerfjunkies.

Dr_Ganknstein

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

Go ahead and nerf Onslaught some more.

Then come back and cry that everyone and their mother runs Dawnbreaker.

You guys are nerfjunkies.

Yeah. Eventually they just want light and heavy attacks only.

Marcus_Thracius

Increase cost by 300% - so now i can oneshot those cheesy 35k templars when Balorgh fire up

L2P

MizoreReyes

When you guys read the skill description did you guys ever think it would be too strong. A skill with 100% penetration with very little cost.

Yeah you can melt tanks but the tanks can also get their hands on it and lets see how you take it.

Though it can be dodged, people actually set up a combo before using it like ahem dizzy swing. When you're fighting on ESO you gotta remember you're fighting two things: the opponent and the lag. Maybe with a bit of luck on your side you might land that perfect dodge.

Anyways stamina players are spoiled by the two hand skill line and so are the top 2 magicka classes with ez mode abilities.

Casterial

MizoreReyes wrote: »

When you guys read the skill description did you guys ever think it would be too strong. A skill with 100% penetration with very little cost.

Yeah you can melt tanks but the tanks can also get their hands on it and lets see how you take it.

Though it can be dodged, people actually set up a combo before using it like ahem dizzy swing. When you're fighting on ESO you gotta remember you're fighting two things: the opponent and the lag. Maybe with a bit of luck on your side you might land that perfect dodge.

Anyways stamina players are spoiled by the two hand skill line and so are the top 2 magicka classes with ez mode abilities.

Doesn't ignore all though, test it. Look at the pen it gives. It's never more than 22k.

And magickas always been spoiled stamina is still pretty new 😏

Davadin

it should be unblockable and undodgeable.

5-sec of 100% penetration of that target (if a tanker dude comes along right after, that's too bad).

hit damage is 25% less than current live. (so approximately same as Dizzy?)

u gain stun-immunity for 5-sec (but not snare or fear).

200-ulti cost.