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Introducing the New Moon Crown Crate!

ZOS_JessicaFolsom
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This is the official discussion thread for the "Introducing the New Moon Crown Crate!" blog article.

Seize the powerful relics and curios of a mysterious Dragon cult with the New Moon Crown Crates, coming soon to the in-game Crown Store!

Here's a full list of all the rewards contained in New Moon Crown Crates:

Radiant Apex Rewards
  • Plagueborn Senche-Panther
  • Planemeld Courser
  • Sanguivorian Howler
Apex Rewards
  • New Moon Bear
  • New Moon Camel
  • New Moon Guar
  • New Moon Horse
  • New Moon Senche
  • New Moon Wolf
Legendary Rewards
  • Blood-Drained Thrall
  • Crystal Sconce, Green
  • Death Mask Sabre Cat
  • Ebony Epidermis
  • Eerie Elk of Dread
  • Emerald Candlefly Gathering
  • Grisly Horse Mummy
  • New Moon Bow
  • New Moon Maul
  • New Moon Shield
  • New Moon Staff
  • New Moon Sword
  • Wraith-of-Crows
Epic Rewards
  • Dread-Aurelian Dragonslayer Wolf
  • Ghostly Daedrat
  • Haunted House Cat
  • Haunting Netch
  • Nightmare Wolf Pup
  • Orc Wise Woman's Vestment
  • Skald's Damask Jerkin
  • Solar Arc Dwarven Spider
  • Spectral Chicken
  • Telvanni Wizard-Lord Robe
Superior Rewards
  • Ancient Dragon Hunter Coronal
  • Ancient Dragon Hunter Piercing
  • Arkay's Warding Gesture
  • Badger Ruff Echalette
  • Daedric Death Mask
  • Death Dealer Body Markings
  • Death Dealer Facial Markings
  • Deep Elf Executioner's Hood
  • Dragondancer Body Markings
  • Dragondancer Facial Markings
  • Dragondancer's Cheek Cord
  • Dragondancer's Circlet
  • Drink From Skull
  • Gargoyle Body Flair
  • Gargoyle Facial Flair
  • Masked Bear Cub
  • Shadowghost Pony
  • Spotted Snow Senche-Leopard
  • Summon Bat
  • Trophy of Balorgh Body Tattoo
  • Trophy of Balorgh Facial Tattoo
  • Wings of Darkness Body Tattoos
  • Wings of Darkness Face Tattoos
  • Z'en Vengeance Kiss-Me-Not Cap
Fine Rewards
  • Monochrome: Black is Slimming
  • Monochrome: Black Relieved by White
  • Monochrome: Checkerboard
  • Monochrome: Light-Dark-Light
  • Monochrome: White with Black Outlines
  • Monochrome: White with Heavy Shadows
Edited by ZOS_JessicaFolsom on September 17, 2019 1:18PM
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  • mateosalvaje
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    Spooky Season is the only time I but Crown Crates. Yaaaaaaaay! 🕸
    I've been wrong before, and I'll be wrong again.
  • anadandy
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    Acrolas wrote: »

    Thank you for this, I have been waiting for that Arkay emote for my Templar since I saw it datamined. Good to know i can get it for 16 gems.
  • FrancisCrawford
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    ethr wrote: »
    If you don't like them don't buy them. No one is forcing you to buy them.

    ZoS should disclose the odds of each kind of drop. Then your dictum would have more force.
  • snoozy
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    Acrolas wrote: »

    thank you! :)

    can anyone explain to me why that is only available in russian even though the game itself isn't?
    PC EU
  • Varana
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    Because the hackers are Russian. ;)

    j/k

    It's not an official site. The items have been datamined from the game data.
  • NorthernNightmare
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    Why are the pets such as the nightmare wolf missing their mount? Used to be you could get both in the same crate

    Let me guess, another greedy tactic? For shame
  • Maelstroa
    Maelstroa
    Soul Shriven
    IAmBones wrote: »
    I started this game in June of 2018. I currently have 4099 hours played. NOT ONCE have I felt in anyway I NEEDED, HAD TO, OR WAS REQUIRED in anyway to buy anything from the Crown Store, because there is nothing sold on the Crown Store you NEED, only items you MIGHT want (dang you cute pets!)

    Clearly you are not an RP player, or a person of any housing/lore/aesthetic community.
    Comparing Battlefront II's Loot Boxes to ESO's Loot Boxes is laughable, it shows a complete misunderstanding of how these two games utilize Loot Boxes and/or its a direct attempt to mislead the community. Battlefront II's loot boxes were DIRECTLY TIED to game progression, ESO's Loot Boxes do no such thing.

    Not quite, they also had cosmetics and other items in there, especially a few months later when massive backlash hit. Nice attempt to push a problem you don't care for but others have issue with out of the way.
    Also, you could put in effort and earn boxes. Not very many, especially not at the start, but you could EARN them to make use of them.
    Loot Boxes can trigger someone who has a gambling problem, as well as the million of other things on the Internet and pretty much every single "mobile" game on your phone just search for "slot machine" THEN tell me how ESO is the problem. Yes it can be an issue for some people and If you feel you might have a gambling problem, please seek help at https://gam-anon.org.

    Yes, I have paid for the game. Yes, I pay a subscription. However, no one can, in any reasonable way, make a case that items in the Crown Store are required to play ESO, my 4000+ hours playing the game pretty much proves that to me.

    Good for you for paying for a game. Good job.
    But making an internet search or playing a mobile game that often has not similar PAY FOR mechanic is not at all a decent comparison. Also using 'trigger' and such for people who are genuinely looking at problem of an actual gambling mechanic is very juvenile and boarders trolling, and listing a site for rehabilitation of an addiction is nothing less than insulting. ZoS constantly makes use of knowing the casual, endgame, aesthetic and RP communities all are fond of getting pets, items, skins, houses, emotes, styles and furnishings and puts them locked behind a mechanic that is unequivocally gambling, with no means of earning them, acquiring them or winning them aside from paying for them.
    This also does not include the predatory tactics of using people's panic reflex to sell high-valued items for only a few days at a time (with large print that shows how little time left you have to purchase), to which they would not be available afterwards for months. Some items not even appearing for years at a time, afterwards (Tessellated Guar, for example). Tactics used by casinos, old television advertisements (to which there are laws against in many areas now), and home shopping networks used to fleece people of their money.

    But good for you, you paid for a game and played it. And you did not buy items! Good on you. But maybe learn a different viewpoint or learn some facts before you go to town and put down communities of people who find certain practices targeted at certain groups or players (that often get little to no support in-game by ZoS should a problem arise, to the point of even get banned by ZoS staff for unoffensive, lore friendly names they use for their characters they have had for years) and is generally considered quite knowingly exploitative of them.
  • LanteanPegasus
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    Not quite, they also had cosmetics and other items in there, especially a few months later when massive backlash hit. Nice attempt to push a problem you don't care for but others have issue with out of the way.
    Also, you could put in effort and earn boxes. Not very many, especially not at the start, but you could EARN them to make use of them.
    When they said that Battlefront boxes were directly tied to game progression, they referred to the quote of the OP regarding them that said "When you buy a triple A title like “Battlefront,” it will set you back about $60. That ain’t cheap. Then gaming companies want you to spend additional money just to play the game you deserve from the start.", and postulating that could also be said about ESO. Which is wrong. Because while the Battlefront boxes may have had cosmetics as well, they seem to have had elements that were actually tied into game mechanics (probably better equipment or whatnot). ESO is playable in all aspects without crown crate stuff.
    And you can EARN crown crates as well. Daily login rewards and twitch streams are the way to do that. AND you can use the gems you get from them to buy out some of the stuff you want from later boxes.
    Clearly you are not an RP player, or a person of any housing/lore/aesthetic community.
    While I'm sure that members of these communities will find some very fine stuff offered in Crates, most of the time they don't really need them to play their way. You can get lots of houses, styles, costumes, cosmetics, mounts, pets and furniture, even many emotes, from the crown store (some even from gameplay !). So the "must have that one specific thing from Crate" is indeed only a want, not a need to play your way, whatever way that may be. The crown store involves real money, yes, but the thing criticised here was gambling, not selling things for cash.

    ZoS constantly makes use of knowing the casual, endgame, aesthetic and RP communities all are fond of getting pets, items, skins, houses, emotes, styles and furnishings and puts them locked behind a mechanic that is unequivocally gambling, with no means of earning them, acquiring them or winning them aside from paying for them.
    This also does not include the predatory tactics of using people's panic reflex to sell high-valued items for only a few days at a time (with large print that shows how little time left you have to purchase), to which they would not be available afterwards for months. Some items not even appearing for years at a time, afterwards (Tessellated Guar, for example). Tactics used by casinos, old television advertisements (to which there are laws against in many areas now), and home shopping networks used to fleece people of their money.
    Again, not all pets, items, skins etc. are locked behind that mechanic. (And were there even ever houses in crown crates ? But that's not the point.) Most of them are not. Some of those that are you could still buy with gems you gathered from free crates.
    The tactics you mentioned are indeed used by the institutions you mentioned. As well as by most businesses that sell stuff. "Summer sale ! Get it now !" "30% off on shoes/hats/whatever only this week !" "Limited edition !" I don't like them either, but they are the standard in our current society's model of business. Pointing ZOS out to be especially bad because they use the standard is a bit harsh.
    But maybe learn a different viewpoint or learn some facts before you go to town and put down communities of people who find certain practices targeted at certain groups or players (that often get little to no support in-game by ZoS should a problem arise) and is generally considered quite knowingly exploitative of them.
    I'm not entirely sure ZOS is targeting any specific communities here. I think the majority of people is susceptible to being tempted by pretty (if useless) stuff, so offering a wide variety of said stuff will tempt most people at one point or the other. Even some hardcore leaderboard players that only care about number crunching might see a "cool mount" and be tempted by it on occasion. For people who put value in aesthetics that will probably happen more often.

    But the key for me is that most of the aesthetic stuff at ESO can be obtained without playing crown crate lottery. In addition to a cash shop and gameplay rewards they offer a raffle of pretty things every few months, and they set up pretty main prizes to make people buy tickets. But most of the tickets don't win the main prizes. At least, unlike most raffles, you can use the scraps from that tickets to gather for a main prize later.
    That is gambling, in a way, but it is the sort of gambling that is tolerated everywhere in our society. And I think it is done in a way that is tolerable, because it openly says that the main prizes are a lot more rare than the consolation ones. (Although I agree that publishing the actual chances would be better.)

    And just for the records: I mentioned the crown store as an alternative to crate gambling, because it is. The cost for most of the items there is quite hefty in my opinion, and I'm not happy about that. On the other hand, if you subscribe regularly anyway it is more or less for free, so all in all I think ESO has a surprisingly flexible business model for people to play and pay for it.

    - pay one time for base game and every addition you want (chapters, DLCs), buy crowns for specific items from the store if you want them (including crown crates)
    - pay base game and the chapters you like once, subscribe to get all DLCs plus crowns to shop in the store
    - mix the above by subscribing only for limited amounts of time now and them, to get either limited time access to some content you don't want to buy (DLC for event, for example, or for playing it through once), store stuff in the crafting bag, or grab some crowns (whatever your motivation, you get all of the three)

    So while crown crates are a quite expensive gamble if you buy crowns to buy them, they get less so when you subscribe anyway (for any other reason than the included crowns, that is), and buy them for leftover crowns. So in fact they could also be seen as kind of a raffle for regular paying customers.

  • Recent
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    Why would i spend anymore money on a game you guys broke? I just very recently spent hundreds of dollars on my main account. Im leaving soon since this upcoming patch just ruins my game....had enough so no dont think ill buy anything more .

    I liked the way combat was, it was better that what the upcoming patch is going to do to dps
  • Jaimeh
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    ethr wrote: »
    If you don't like them don't buy them. No one is forcing you to buy them.

    What if you don't like the crate model, but you like the items in the crates? Wouldn't it be better if these were available in the store for a flat price? I don't get all that pitchfork attitude when anyone remotely criticizes a bussiness tactic that is customer unfriendly at the best, and potentially hamrful at the worst. The items are fantastic, but hoping to get enough gems to buy something is next level ridiculousness.
    Edited by Jaimeh on September 18, 2019 1:14PM
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  • Ragnork
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    Carbonised wrote: »
    UK only stuff

    The UK is not the world and like Belgium an ISP check can be used.
    Also from the bits and pieces of news that drips through it seems the UK has other issues of its own at the moment.

  • MewmewGirl
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    While all this new stuff looks fantastic crates as a rule are terrible. https://thefederalist.com/2017/11/17/paid-loot-crates-bad-gamers-ea-knows/ This article refers to Star Wars:Battlefront but could easily apply to ESO.

    "When you buy a triple A title like “Battlefront,” it will set you back about $60. That ain’t cheap. Then gaming companies want you to spend additional money just to play the game you deserve from the start. That’s not fair, and although it may seem like a good way to boost the bottom line of a game, it’s bad for gamers, and EA knows it, that’s why they bent to public pressure and temporarily pulled the payment feature."

    Players have paid the price of the game already. Many are paying an additional subscription. The idea of microtransactions in a non-free to play game where people have spent money on it already is problematic. Also loot crates have a gambling aspect to them that is problematic. To quote this post:
    Recremen wrote: »
    Gambling boxes circumvent gambling laws while retaining all the salient qualities which made gambling regulated in the first place. They destroy the consumer-producer power dynamic, obfuscate real price signalling, and rob clients of agency in what had previously been a pretty standard business transaction of choosing what you wanted to buy and buying it.

    Crates are a bad practice and anti-consumer.

    EA's crates were quite different. Those were actual characters and equipment and things you used to play the game. They weren't just skins and cosmetics.

    While many people may not like loot crates in general, they are simply just skins here which is far different than what EA was doing.

    Personally I enjoy how they keep some of my skins more rare rather than just letting everybody have at them.
  • MewmewGirl
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    I like how there's another plague mount, it works for having some different ways to role play and stuff. Now that we have multiple plague mounts and a player plague skin, we just need some plague infested pets to finish up the set. So please consider adding some plague pets to the game for us to have as well :D

    Oh, also we need a "sick" personalities set. I'm extremely serious here in case someone takes it as a joke :P

    So in the future, please add some kinds of sick personalities emotes and especially please add a plague pet or two.
  • Cirantille
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    Well I never bought crates.
    But this is because, I am very picky and I rarely like an item in crates.

    For example people seems to be loving those glowing horses, but...
    I would pick a simple but glorious white-mane horse over glowy horses any day.

    For a few items, buying whole lots of crates seems expensive to me.
    And I appreciate when they are also sold seperately so I know exactly what I am paying for (not a % change of getting it).

    Also I agree with other commenters, even in forum people talking about "flexing" their mounts and pets.
    Seriously people, if you think others see those, no one even looks at you while running between crafting stations, quests or keeps.
    Buy it for your liking not to show it.

  • Turelus
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  • kind_hero
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    ethr wrote: »
    If you don't like them don't buy them. No one is forcing you to buy them.

    Do you realise that if it would be that simple, casinos would be out of business? :)
    [a]kind.hero (PC/EU)
  • Mr_Walker
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    Ufretin wrote: »
    Carbonised wrote: »
    The whole random gambling with crates has been shady since their conception, but the radiant apex mounts that are otherwise not obtainable, and HAVE to be gambled for - at an extremely low droprate - are especially predatory.
    In this day and age with more and more consumers, gaming journalists and even politicians and lawmakers noticing and speaking out against the predatory practices of gambling mechanics in video games, especially the infamous loot boxes, it would be prudent and responsible of Zenimax and ZOS to remove these practices from ESO, and make loot boxes, in this case crown crates, a thing of the past.
    At the very least, the practise of "radiant apex" mounts, and the aggressive advertising of these mounts that ZOS does with every new crate season, comes across as greedy, unethical and exceedingly tone deaf to the current political climate regarding loot boxes. The other rewards you can at least eventually buy with leftover gems, which doesn't make it "great", but at least it's "better" than the gaudy radiant mounts that you have no other option than to gamble for, at a droprate that's somewhere below 1 %, and probably closer to 0 %.
    The many threads we have had in the ESO forums of people mentioning that they have wasted hundreds, and sometimes even thousands, of dollars and euros chasing specific radiant mounts, and often not getting them, should be testimony enough just how predatory and unethical these "radiant" gambling mounts really are.

    To those who are about to spend 1000's of dollars on a radiant apex mount:

    If it's recognition from other players you're after, please consider that I couldn't care less about whatever mount you'll be showing off at Belkarth wayshrine. In fact I probably won't even notice you.
    And no, I'm not envious. I've been riding discreet yet elegant black horses and wolves for years because I don't like gaudy, overdressed lore-breaking mounts.

    ^^^^

    As CP1K+ I've been riding the brown horse you get at lvl 10 on my PvE main since... level 10. My mount is probably more noteworthy than any of the radiants.


    Edited by Mr_Walker on September 19, 2019 2:51AM
  • Aptonoth
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    Mr_Walker wrote: »
    Ufretin wrote: »
    Carbonised wrote: »
    The whole random gambling with crates has been shady since their conception, but the radiant apex mounts that are otherwise not obtainable, and HAVE to be gambled for - at an extremely low droprate - are especially predatory.
    In this day and age with more and more consumers, gaming journalists and even politicians and lawmakers noticing and speaking out against the predatory practices of gambling mechanics in video games, especially the infamous loot boxes, it would be prudent and responsible of Zenimax and ZOS to remove these practices from ESO, and make loot boxes, in this case crown crates, a thing of the past.
    At the very least, the practise of "radiant apex" mounts, and the aggressive advertising of these mounts that ZOS does with every new crate season, comes across as greedy, unethical and exceedingly tone deaf to the current political climate regarding loot boxes. The other rewards you can at least eventually buy with leftover gems, which doesn't make it "great", but at least it's "better" than the gaudy radiant mounts that you have no other option than to gamble for, at a droprate that's somewhere below 1 %, and probably closer to 0 %.
    The many threads we have had in the ESO forums of people mentioning that they have wasted hundreds, and sometimes even thousands, of dollars and euros chasing specific radiant mounts, and often not getting them, should be testimony enough just how predatory and unethical these "radiant" gambling mounts really are.

    To those who are about to spend 1000's of dollars on a radiant apex mount:

    If it's recognition from other players you're after, please consider that I couldn't care less about whatever mount you'll be showing off at Belkarth wayshrine. In fact I probably won't even notice you.
    And no, I'm not envious. I've been riding discreet yet elegant black horses and wolves for years because I don't like gaudy, overdressed lore-breaking mounts.

    ^^^^

    As CP1K+ I've been riding the brown horse you get at lvl 10 on my PvE main since... level 10. My mount is probably more noteworthy than any of the radiants.


    I actually see lots of the base horses though. What is true rare is a character that is better than default stuff but not some crazy bling bling shiny apex radiant crap that stands out like a sore thumb. I like coherent character design. So for example I have ashlander gear and riding the morrowind bug moutn I forget its name but it creates a coherent look.

    For my thief I have him on the black saber tooth with its kit. He is in all black armor with thief personality. These are the types of both stand out and loreful characters I would love to see more of but rarely do. Most people go with the default stuff or slap on as much gaudy gross bling as they can and away they go lol. That is true rare and its hard to get right because it requires mastery of both lore and in game unlocks and even loot crates if its thematic. I'm not saying bling can't be pulled off but its too often misused. I have a few tasteful bling characters myself nothing too crazy though.

  • rotaugen454
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    Ghost chickens?!

    Haven't I suffered enough for killing that one chicken in Riverwood? First the villagers attacked me, and now its haunting me from beyond the grave!

    Instead of The Ghost and Mr. Chicken, we get Ghost Chicken. Too bad it doesn’t have the voice of Don Knotts.
    "Get off my lawn!"
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