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50% damage nerf on EVERY META ABILITIY
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Nordic__Knights✭✭✭✭✭
✭SydneyGrey wrote: »Constantly catering to people who want nerfs has killed games before, and yet that's what they're doing. Again.
The funny thing is 90% of the people have not asked for this *** that they're doing they're just doing it for the fucksake of *** up the gameEdited by Nordic__Knights on September 16, 2019 10:43PM4 -
OtarTheMad✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭At first glance the changes to necromancer are a complete joke.
- Boneyard already didn't hit hard and now has DECREASED damage even further... no way this goes on my bar in any situation.
- Frozen Colossus saw this nerf coming, idk how this changes things.
- Shocking Siphon... DECREASED the damage... just lol... again, not going on my bar
- Skeletal Mage- They made this ability useful in Scalebreaker, it was great to use. Now... DECREASED the damage by a lot... so... yeah... again not worth slotting most likely.
What in the world are you guys doing with necro? Making them the crafters?8 -
Azyle1✭✭✭✭✭OtarTheMad wrote: »At first glance the changes to necromancer are a complete joke.
- Boneyard already didn't hit hard and now has DECREASED damage even further... no way this goes on my bar in any situation.
- Frozen Colossus saw this nerf coming, idk how this changes things.
- Shocking Siphon... DECREASED the damage... just lol... again, not going on my bar
- Skeletal Mage- They made this ability useful in Scalebreaker, it was great to use. Now... DECREASED the damage by a lot... so... yeah... again not worth slotting most likely.
What in the world are you guys doing with necro? Making them the crafters?
?? Stam Necro still OP0 -
OtarTheMad✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭OtarTheMad wrote: »At first glance the changes to necromancer are a complete joke.
- Boneyard already didn't hit hard and now has DECREASED damage even further... no way this goes on my bar in any situation.
- Frozen Colossus saw this nerf coming, idk how this changes things.
- Shocking Siphon... DECREASED the damage... just lol... again, not going on my bar
- Skeletal Mage- They made this ability useful in Scalebreaker, it was great to use. Now... DECREASED the damage by a lot... so... yeah... again not worth slotting most likely.
What in the world are you guys doing with necro? Making them the crafters?
?? Stam Necro still OP
I'll probably have to go that route. I am gonna test it whenever I get a chance.0 -
VaxtinTheWolf✭✭✭✭✭
All over the notes. I guess the rage is blinding a lot of players. Several notes under certain dot skills indicate that they have been changed from a base of 8 seconds to 10 seconds. Small, but it's an increase and an additional tick or two.|| AD - Rah'Jiin Lv50 Khajiit Nightblade (Damage) || EP - Generic Argonian Lv50 Argonian Nightblade (Tank) || DC - Zinkotsu Lv50 Breton Nightblade (Healer) ||
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satanio✭✭✭✭
Which dots if I may ask?VaxtinTheWolf wrote: »
All over the notes. I guess the rage is blinding a lot of players. Several notes under certain dot skills indicate that they have been changed from a base of 8 seconds to 10 seconds. Small, but it's an increase and an additional tick or two.
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Zulera301✭✭✭✭✭I can't speak for PvE, but in PvP this is once again just another example of "Improvise. Adapt. Overcome."
if this didn't happen every patch I might actually show a little alarm, but just give it 3 months and things will change again.Shortly after the formation of the Ebonheart Pact, a Nord woman was given a tour of the Tribunal Temple. When later asked about the experience, she seemed upset. Suffice to say, the Dunmer were not pleased to hear this, and thus they inquired further.
"Well," the Nord frowned, "the priests were very angry and unwelcoming. They kept shouting things at me like "you can't drink that mead in here!" and "somebody stop her, she's running naked!" and "we can't catch her; she's covered in grease!""1 -
BlackMadara✭✭✭✭VaxtinTheWolf wrote: »
All over the notes. I guess the rage is blinding a lot of players. Several notes under certain dot skills indicate that they have been changed from a base of 8 seconds to 10 seconds. Small, but it's an increase and an additional tick or two.
That actually lowers their dps even further. For example. If the standard direct damage ability dealt 10k damage then a DoT would deal 25k over 8s, or 3125 dps. Now that dot should deal 12500 over 10s, or 1250 dps. It further reduces the dps if ZoS is using total damage of the DoT for their standard instead of dps5 -
OtarTheMad✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I can't speak for PvE, but in PvP this is once again just another example of "Improvise. Adapt. Overcome."
if this didn't happen every patch I might actually show a little alarm, but just give it 3 months and things will change again.
As frustrated as I am right now I do agree. I honestly have to figure out what my magcro's bar is going to look like but we will see. My adapt, overcome might be just playing another class for PvP until necro is a bit better. Warden looks great so, I might try that again.0 -
Tannus15✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭BlackMadara wrote: »VaxtinTheWolf wrote: »
All over the notes. I guess the rage is blinding a lot of players. Several notes under certain dot skills indicate that they have been changed from a base of 8 seconds to 10 seconds. Small, but it's an increase and an additional tick or two.
That actually lowers their dps even further. For example. If the standard direct damage ability dealt 10k damage then a DoT would deal 25k over 8s, or 3125 dps. Now that dot should deal 12500 over 10s, or 1250 dps. It further reduces the dps if ZoS is using total damage of the DoT for their standard instead of dps
Ground dots usually have their tooltips written as "x damage per second for y seconds" where single target dots are "x damage over y seconds."
This means for single target dots you are correct and for ground targeted dots you are incorrect.0 -
Wayshuba✭✭✭✭✭VaxtinTheWolf wrote: »
All over the notes. I guess the rage is blinding a lot of players. Several notes under certain dot skills indicate that they have been changed from a base of 8 seconds to 10 seconds. Small, but it's an increase and an additional tick or two.
Yes, so if something ticked for 2,000 damage (just using an example) every second for eight seconds you got 16,000 damage (if it wasn't purged after the first tick in PvP). Now, you will get 1,000 damage a second for 10 seconds for 10,000 total damage. And the best part is, you are going to pay 30% more to get LESS damage.
They are going the complete opposite direction they should be going with things here and I don't see it letting up anytime soon. The skills in the game are more of a mess now than they were when Summerset released. Things keep getting worse - not better.3 -
MasterSpatula✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »Usually I don't care about nerfs, because I'm a complete potato when it comes to combat. But these changed made even me sad...
Why not buff stuff that's underperforming instead? Game progression is already made in such a way that you feel weaker when you level up for the most part. And now this =(
There was too much power creep. I'm fine with these changes. Some content might need to be adjusted though.
Those players benefiting least or not at all from Power Creep will be the ones affected most by these changes.
It's the same old thing with these guys. Try to affect the elite few by nerfing everyone else."A probable impossibility is preferable to an improbable possibility." - Aristotle3 -
KirinBlaze✭✭✭✭I understand the damage nerfs to DoTs because DoTs have been crazy over-performing with their current damage plus with the sheer amount accessible to everyone but what I don't understand is the INSANE cost increases to these DoT abilities. Aren't the damage nerfs enough to discourage the use of so many of them in place of direct damage attacks? But now you have make some of them cost a metric ***-ton to use? What?Kirin Blaze - Ebonheart Pact - Imperial DragonknightKïrïn Bläzë - Daggerfall Covenant - Imperial DragonknightKìrín Blàzé - Aldmeri Dominion - Imperial DragonknightVehemence - Omni - COMBUSTION1 -
Nerhesi✭✭✭✭This is actually pretty terrible.
Why remove an entire viable meta and reduce the game back to "DoTs are crap, DD or suck" - thats the exact opposite of creating more meaningful choices in game.2 -
karthrag_inak✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭so basically as long as you have your fart stacks from cloudrest you can compete, but if not, you're hosed.
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Gahmerdohn✭✭✭I'm glad! I'll be able to see some boss mechanics that I haven't seen for a long time and I miss them
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