ZOS WTF?

Anony_Mouse

Rake wrote: »

just slot purge

I thought we all agreed that Structured Entropy was the fix to all things this patch

ZOS_GinaBruno

Hi everyone, the crash you all have been experiencing is likely one that started with the most recent incremental patch. The good news is we already have a fix in testing, but the bad news is it's not something we're able to hotfix; it will be published with the next incremental patch on Monday.

Idinuse

scorpius2k1 wrote: »

Genomic wrote: »

As long as the Crown Store hasn't stopped working properly. That would be the true disaster.

Observing the patterns of the company and being a long-term supporter of Bethesda products, one starts to see that the game's depth is lost to the companies monetization systems when they have such a gem with ESO that is losing it's polish and luster because of them. When you're a new player, you don't see all this and everything seems incredibly great and wonderful, but that is gradually lost and overtaken by seeing what this game is about the more you play it. I hate to bring it up, but let's think a moment the reasons why WoW was so successful for so many years, think about what the developer priorities were back then: the player experience. Fast forward to 2019 and the undeniable mess of loot boxes and microtransactions have completely ruined or severely impacted the quality of games new and old, but that's where the problem stops for the company because the success of the money still funnels in, even more so. The quality isn't there anymore. Therein lies the exact problem. How can something succeed longterm this way? Nowadays, priorities are on shallow and expungeable products that can be quickly monetized upon and easily replaced if need be by the next hyped up corporate product train. One fails, a new one is implemented in it's place, and so on.

Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

Let's also not forget the reason why they are able to make money from this and other games which in turn allows employees to have a successful career, HINT: It's us, the players. Lose that and what's left? We are literally the foundation you have built your empire on, shouldn't it be a solid one? Money may always be the motivator, but the player should always be the focus. I don't think I have to remind any gaming company out there in 2019 that the entire industry is on very shaky ground right now, it's a bad time to forget to take care of the most important aspects. The sad part is the most severe impact is going to be on new players, which should always come into a game welcomed with a positive experience, not the opposite.

Speaking towards the entirety of Bethesda/ZOS as a whole, we the player in your communities are literally spending countless hours and days pleading with you and asking for resolution and actual positive outcomes with little to nothing in response and return. Players should be your #1 valued investment, it sure doesn't feel that way anymore and that's definitely not something that should be ignored.

Seems to me their business plan was actually making players leave and having new players take their place. At least the scaling seems to support that anyway. They didn't count on that so many of us would stick around to be thanked for our patience...

Bergzorn

I just crashed 'afk' while checking stuff on Ebay. My best so far.

TipsyDrow

ZoS is going to let something this bad go unfixed for a week? Seriously? It's not that ZoS can't, it's that ZoS wont. Period. I have never seen another company let crashes like this go unfixed because they have to wait for the scheduled patch. They FIX IT!!! This is quite possibly one of the worst things I've seen a gaming company not address.

danthemann5

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hi everyone, the crash you all have been experiencing is likely one that started with the most recent incremental patch. The good news is we already have a fix in testing, but the bad news is it's not something we're able to hotfix; it will be published with the next incremental patch on Monday.

Unacceptable. The fix should be implemented the moment it is ready.

Jam

Why you have to wait so much time to speak about it @ZOS_GinaBruno ?

And why are you accepting to let the game still unplayable for 1 week more while people are paying sub ?

You really don't have any ethic ? Are you really insulting PvP players ?

KappaKid83

Jam wrote: »

Why you have to wait so much time to speak about it @ZOS_GinaBruno ?

And why are you accepting to let the game still unplayable for 1 week more while people are paying sub ?

You really don't have any ethic ? Are you really insulting PvP players ?

She is on a plane to gamescom, maybe just got in flight wifi or landed for a connection. I am as upset as anyone on this forum about the current state but this one I know the answer to and will stand up for Gina.

technohic

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hi everyone, the crash you all have been experiencing is likely one that started with the most recent incremental patch. The good news is we already have a fix in testing, but the bad news is it's not something we're able to hotfix; it will be published with the next incremental patch on Monday.

Is it not possible to do an emergency maintenance before then? I mean, I seem to recall this happening for other issues in the past.

Jam

technohic wrote: »

Is it not possible to do an emergency maintenance before then? I mean, I seem to recall this happening for other issues in the past.

Require a refund for your sub (if you pay one) for the money you lost and the impossibility to play the game.

LOL

psypanda

https://clips.twitch.tv/HelpfulLazyBobaFutureMan

nuff said

Skander

Hexys wrote: »

Constant crashes in Cyrodiil PC-EU, 'ESO has stopped working'. Not just for me but the whole group and players all across Cyrodiil.

As I thought it couldn't get worse with the lagg, now we also crash all the time.

Get your *** together now and fix it please.

Gr,
Hexys

Anti crash dlc is 2500 crowns on store.

Palidon

Community Manager
Hi everyone, the crash you all have been experiencing is likely one that started with the most recent incremental patch. The good news is we already have a fix in testing, but the bad news is it's not something we're able to hotfix; it will be published with the next incremental patch on Monday.

How Pathetic. Players have to put up with the crashes until Monday instead of ZOS doing an incremental patch now. That's disgusting support. They have a major problem caused by their recent update and it should be fixed immediately. This is what you get when a company continues to put out new content that causes more problems instead of putting on the breaks and fixing all the performance issues and bugs they have created.

Oh but in 2020 they have promised to fix performance problems that have been reported for years. When 2020 comes around just wait and see how much is really fixed. ZOS is good at making promises but in the end nothing is done.

Sandman929

Palidon wrote: »

Community Manager
Hi everyone, the crash you all have been experiencing is likely one that started with the most recent incremental patch. The good news is we already have a fix in testing, but the bad news is it's not something we're able to hotfix; it will be published with the next incremental patch on Monday.

How Pathetic. Players have to put up with the crashes until Monday instead of ZOS doing an incremental patch now. That's disgusting support. They have a major problem caused by their recent update and it should be fixed immediately. This is what you get when a company continues to put out new content that causes more problems instead of putting on the breaks and fixing all the performance issues and bugs they have created.

Oh but in 2020 they have promised to fix performance problems that have been reported for years. When 2020 comes around just wait and see how much is really fixed. ZOS is good at making promises but in the end nothing is done.

Could be worse, you could have to deal with garbage for months like we do in console land.

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

Sandman929 wrote: »

Palidon wrote: »

Community Manager
Hi everyone, the crash you all have been experiencing is likely one that started with the most recent incremental patch. The good news is we already have a fix in testing, but the bad news is it's not something we're able to hotfix; it will be published with the next incremental patch on Monday.

How Pathetic. Players have to put up with the crashes until Monday instead of ZOS doing an incremental patch now. That's disgusting support. They have a major problem caused by their recent update and it should be fixed immediately. This is what you get when a company continues to put out new content that causes more problems instead of putting on the breaks and fixing all the performance issues and bugs they have created.

Oh but in 2020 they have promised to fix performance problems that have been reported for years. When 2020 comes around just wait and see how much is really fixed. ZOS is good at making promises but in the end nothing is done.

Could be worse, you could have to deal with garbage for months like we do in console land.

Bash necro is perfectly balanced for console gameplay!

danthemann5

technohic wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hi everyone, the crash you all have been experiencing is likely one that started with the most recent incremental patch. The good news is we already have a fix in testing, but the bad news is it's not something we're able to hotfix; it will be published with the next incremental patch on Monday.

Is it not possible to do an emergency maintenance before then? I mean, I seem to recall this happening for other issues in the past.

Of course it's possible, but it's not a clown store issue, it's only PvP, so it's not really a priority.

Hexys

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hi everyone, the crash you all have been experiencing is likely one that started with the most recent incremental patch. The good news is we already have a fix in testing, but the bad news is it's not something we're able to hotfix; it will be published with the next incremental patch on Monday.

Thank you for the update & investigating Gina. Hope you are doing well with the team on the current issues.

Gr,
Hexys

Aurielle

Palidon wrote: »

Community Manager
Hi everyone, the crash you all have been experiencing is likely one that started with the most recent incremental patch. The good news is we already have a fix in testing, but the bad news is it's not something we're able to hotfix; it will be published with the next incremental patch on Monday.

How Pathetic. Players have to put up with the crashes until Monday instead of ZOS doing an incremental patch now. That's disgusting support. They have a major problem caused by their recent update and it should be fixed immediately. This is what you get when a company continues to put out new content that causes more problems instead of putting on the breaks and fixing all the performance issues and bugs they have created.

Oh but in 2020 they have promised to fix performance problems that have been reported for years. When 2020 comes around just wait and see how much is really fixed. ZOS is good at making promises but in the end nothing is done.

You have to wait until Monday? Boo hoo. On console, we crash daily (and have been for a long time), and we have also been dealing with unpatched Necromancer bash builds in Cyrodiil since Elsweyr launched. That fix you guys got weeks (nay, months) ago for necro bashers? We’re only getting it when Scalebreaker launches for us.

So, you know, could be worse. At least ZOS doesn’t treat you like a second class citizen.

Edit: what’s funny too is that when we inherit the patch that screwed everything up for you guys, we’ll probably have to deal with an increased rate of crashes for weeks. No rapid patches for us! So glad I cancelled ESO plus.

Pyvos

Aurielle wrote: »

You have to wait until Monday? Boo hoo. On console, we crash daily (and have been for a long time), and we have also been dealing with unpatched Necromancer bash builds in Cyrodiil since Elsweyr launched. That fix you guys got weeks (nay, months) ago for necro bashers? We’re only getting it when Scalebreaker launches for us.

So, you know, could be worse. At least ZOS doesn’t treat you like a second class citizen.

Edit: what’s funny too is that when we inherit the patch that screwed everything up for you guys, we’ll probably have to deal with an increased rate of crashes for weeks. No rapid patches for us! So glad I cancelled ESO plus.

I imagine a contributing factor to this is the sometimes lengthy validation, certification, and review times for console platforms. It can be, in some bad cases, a 7 day or longer process (depending on if issues appeared during the review) for at least Xbox (no idea about PS4).

Does that excuse a month or more of dealing with a specific issue that has already been patched on PC? Not really. But they may view it as "well, if they've dealt with it for a couple weeks and we're already close to shipping a content update, then is it really worth our time and effort?". On PC at least they're in control of the distribution and patching medium.

Skall66

Aurielle wrote: »

You have to wait until Monday? Boo hoo. On console, we crash daily (and have been for a long time), and we have also been dealing with unpatched Necromancer bash builds in Cyrodiil since Elsweyr launched. That fix you guys got weeks (nay, months) ago for necro bashers? We’re only getting it when Scalebreaker launches for us.

So, you know, could be worse. At least ZOS doesn’t treat you like a second class citizen.

Edit: what’s funny too is that when we inherit the patch that screwed everything up for you guys, we’ll probably have to deal with an increased rate of crashes for weeks. No rapid patches for us! So glad I cancelled ESO plus.

since it seems to late to include the fix in scalebreaker release for console next week, don't worry, for a month or so, till we get the fix on console, we will stop to crash daily, we will crash hourly or even more, enjoy!

By the way, ZoS, have you planned a compensation for console players? since we don't get all the "free to exploit with no ban" features that pc players get? (one berry indrik, free necro class, free billions gold for guilds..)

Seperatist

Edit for bashing here

Wolfpaw

Matt said "we're killing it",... maybe that was code for ZOS to begin their master plan of destroying Zenimax Media's golden goose ESO in a joint effort with liberal media to conspire against their daedric overlord R.Trump on the board of directors at Zenimax Media?

The truth is out there....
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T1WwfI_3H94

MentalxHammer

This games *** dead RIP

Sandman929

Skall66 wrote: »

Aurielle wrote: »

You have to wait until Monday? Boo hoo. On console, we crash daily (and have been for a long time), and we have also been dealing with unpatched Necromancer bash builds in Cyrodiil since Elsweyr launched. That fix you guys got weeks (nay, months) ago for necro bashers? We’re only getting it when Scalebreaker launches for us.

So, you know, could be worse. At least ZOS doesn’t treat you like a second class citizen.

Edit: what’s funny too is that when we inherit the patch that screwed everything up for you guys, we’ll probably have to deal with an increased rate of crashes for weeks. No rapid patches for us! So glad I cancelled ESO plus.

since it seems to late to include the fix in scalebreaker release for console next week, don't worry, for a month or so, till we get the fix on console, we will stop to crash daily, we will crash hourly or even more, enjoy!

By the way, ZoS, have you planned a compensation for console players? since we don't get all the "free to exploit with no ban" features that pc players get? (one berry indrik, free necro class, free billions gold for guilds..)

At least we know ahead of time that Scalebreaker will likely come with this disconnection problem when we finally get it.
Bashcros will be gone, but no one will be able to play for more than 10 minutes.

Thunderclap

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hi everyone, the crash you all have been experiencing is likely one that started with the most recent incremental patch. The good news is we already have a fix in testing, but the bad news is it's not something we're able to hotfix; it will be published with the next incremental patch on Monday.

WTF!!! YOU ARE *** CRASY???????????? THIS GAME CRASHED EACH 5 Minutes in PVP AND WE SHOULD WAIT UNTIL NEXT WEEK?????????????????????? BRING THIS FIX NOW LIVE!!!!!!

Sandman929

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

Sandman929 wrote: »

Palidon wrote: »

Community Manager
Hi everyone, the crash you all have been experiencing is likely one that started with the most recent incremental patch. The good news is we already have a fix in testing, but the bad news is it's not something we're able to hotfix; it will be published with the next incremental patch on Monday.

How Pathetic. Players have to put up with the crashes until Monday instead of ZOS doing an incremental patch now. That's disgusting support. They have a major problem caused by their recent update and it should be fixed immediately. This is what you get when a company continues to put out new content that causes more problems instead of putting on the breaks and fixing all the performance issues and bugs they have created.

Oh but in 2020 they have promised to fix performance problems that have been reported for years. When 2020 comes around just wait and see how much is really fixed. ZOS is good at making promises but in the end nothing is done.

Could be worse, you could have to deal with garbage for months like we do in console land.

Bash necro is perfectly balanced for console gameplay!

The first week or so, when there were only a handful running around were fun, but after several hundred people died to it those same hundreds of people made them.

Ackwalan

So no PvP till Monday.

silvereyes

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

The good news is we already have a fix in testing, but the bad news is, given our history of past attempts to fix things, this one will probably not work either, and might make performance worse.

Fixed that for you.

Cavedog

....this is why I requested that the server be shut down and patched immediately, not wait til Monday.

....and this is why PvP and PvE servers should be physically separated.

Eraldus

Hexys wrote: »

Constant crashes in Cyrodiil PC-EU, 'ESO has stopped working'. Not just for me but the whole group and players all across Cyrodiil.

As I thought it couldn't get worse with the lagg, now we also crash all the time.

Get your *** together now and fix it please.

Gr,
Hexys

And nerf Sorc while you're at it.